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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 08:54 PM

Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I know a lot of people are excited about the new CBA ... and cap room. Trust me, I am absolutely elated. However, I hope we don't go crazy in free agency (assuming we get the cap room to go crazy). A lot of people have been talking about going after big name free agents. Why?

We did very well last year with a core group of solid guys. Why wreck team chemistry by revamping the roster? Sure, we need a few guys here and there, but I doubt we need more than 1-3 new starters.

Just my two cents.

Redskins_P 03-08-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I agree. I just want a proven #2 receiver.

wilsowilso 03-08-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I don't think we can go crazy can we?

Gmanc711 03-08-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I agree compeletley. I'd go for a low-key, but soild OLB to replace Arrington, with Clemons seeing increased playingtime. Maybe a pass-rushing defensive end and a possession reciver. Thats about all I'm worried about. I want to resign Clark, Royal and D. Evans for sure. Chemistry is huge, and this is a huge boost to our chances next year!

Warpath 03-08-2006 08:58 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I agree. I just want a proven #2 receiver.[/QUOTE]

Please get me another receiver to help out Moss. Please.

steveo395 03-08-2006 08:58 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I dont think we have enough money to go crazy, but we do have enough to resign our guys and maybe get 1 or 2 FAs. I doubt were gonna go crazy....Gibbs wouldn't do that

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 08:59 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=wilsowilso]I don't think we can go crazy can we?[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. But even if we restructure deals and cut a few guys and get under the cap, by say $5-10 million, I don't think we should go nuts. I want to see another #2 or #3 wideout, a new kicker and punter (assuming Tupa and Hall's injuries haven't fully healed), and a decent defensive end.

RiggoRules 03-08-2006 09:09 PM

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Why isn't anyone scared sh1tless about QB?

wilsowilso 03-08-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I hope we get the most expensive punter and kicker out there and I'm not kidding.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 09:10 PM

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]I hope we get the most expensive punter and kicker out there and I'm not kidding.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that. Kickers and punters don't cost much and do a lot for a team. Bryan Barker and Jose Cortez anyone? That's what Spurrier was working with.

mooby 03-08-2006 09:14 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I know a lot of people are excited about the new CBA ... and cap room. Trust me, I am absolutely elated. However, I hope we don't go crazy in free agency.

We did very well last year with a core group of solid guys. Why wreck team chemistry by revamping the roster. Sure, we need a few guys here and there, but I doubt we need more than 1-3 new starters.

Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]

I agree. This isn't the same as when Danny simply thought he could buy a ring. A couple of pickups and i think we'll be fine.

jermus22 03-08-2006 09:17 PM

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I agree compeletley. I'd go for a low-key, but soild OLB to replace Arrington, with Clemons seeing increased playingtime. Maybe a pass-rushing defensive end and a possession reciver. Thats about all I'm worried about. I want to resign Clark, Royal and D. Evans for sure. Chemistry is huge, and this is a huge boost to our chances next year![/QUOTE]

I completely agree. As mentioned earlier, a new punter and kicker could possibly help too.

jermus22 03-08-2006 09:19 PM

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Why isn't anyone scared sh1tless about QB?[/QUOTE]

Should we be? :confused:

Paintrain 03-08-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
Gas up Redskins One, go to Boston, pick up David Givens and Adam Vinatieri, swing down to NO, swoop up Darren Howard, come back to DC and put it in the hanger..

wilsowilso 03-08-2006 09:22 PM

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]Gas up Redskins One, go to Boston, pick up David Givens and Adam Vinatieri, swing down to NO, swoop up Darren Howard, come back to DC and put it in the hanger..[/QUOTE]

That sounds about right to me.

That Guy 03-08-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
kampman
bruce
longwell

and if sam koch goes for the nfl, bring him here. otherwise zastudil is a FA, but he's pretty average.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 09:29 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]kampman
bruce
longwell

and if sam koch goes for the nfl, bring him here. otherwise zastudil is a FA, but he's pretty average.[/QUOTE]

That's a decent list of targets.

dmek25 03-08-2006 09:34 PM

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if bruce isnt expensive,i would definitly bring him in.is tupa going to come back?we do need a kicker,and someone to rush the passer.lets not get into the cap mess we were almost in again

jdlea 03-08-2006 09:50 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]kampman
bruce
longwell

and if sam koch goes for the nfl, bring him here. otherwise zastudil is a FA, but he's pretty average.[/QUOTE]

I definitely would be happy with those additions. I'm not too particularly high on Kampman, but Bruce and Longwell would be huge additions. As for DE, I really wouldn't mind seeing Darren Howard added.

Right now, I'm really just happy that there is a CBA in place, however, it's difficult to think that now Washington has to start over restructuring contracts.

Dana87 03-08-2006 09:50 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I know a lot of people are excited about the new CBA ... and cap room. Trust me, I am absolutely elated. However, I hope we don't go crazy in free agency (assuming we get the cap room to go crazy). A lot of people have been talking about going after big name free agents.[/QUOTE]

What makes you think the Redskins would even think of going crazy? What have they done over the past 2 years that would cause you concern? They now have the right formula, they know they need 2 or 3 key additions and I have every confidence that Gibbs & Co will sign the right guys. Just because alot of people are talking about signing big names, doesn't mean that that is what Gibbs & Co will do. I dont imagine that they check with the Media, or the message boards for what to do. :laughing2

It's been a tough couple of weeks. Try to sit back and enjoy the good news for awhile.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 09:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Dana87]What makes you think the Redskins would even think of going crazy? What have they done over the past 2 years that would cause you concern? They now have the right formula, they know they need 2 or 3 key additions and I have every confidence that Gibbs & Co will sign the right guys. Just because alot of people are talking about signing big names, doesn't mean that that is what Gibbs & Co will do. I dont imagine that they check with the Media, or the message boards for what to do. :laughing2

It's been a tough couple of weeks. Try to sit back and enjoy the good news for awhile.[/QUOTE]

I doubt we'll go crazy in free agency. I know Gibbs & Co. don't check the message boards when deciding what players to acquire. I started the thread to kill some of the "let's go after John Abraham, Darren Howard, Drew Brees, etc." talk.

Schneed10 03-08-2006 09:53 PM

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Definitely want Isaac Bruce, a decent kicker, and a CORNERBACK. And I'll take a pass rusher if we can find one that doesn't break the bank.

SkinsLove24/7 03-08-2006 09:53 PM

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I heard on the sports junkies that the skins were talking to Issac Bruce's agent. He would be a great #2 here.

Dana87 03-08-2006 09:56 PM

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[QUOTE=SkinsLove24/7]I heard on the sports junkies that the skins were talking to Issac Bruce's agent. He would be a great #2 here.[/QUOTE]

Sign Bruce and draft a WR to groom into the system. Bruce only good for another couple of years. But he should be solid for those two years.

mcalderone10 03-08-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=SkinsLove24/7]I heard on the sports junkies that the skins were talking to Issac Bruce's agent. He would be a great #2 here.[/QUOTE]

Bruce would def a great #2 do you think we should keep patten? he was injured last year and consistently bad when he played. If he doesn't have a good training camp i say we try to trade him or do we even let him go all the way to training camp?

mcalderone10 03-08-2006 09:59 PM

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[QUOTE=Dana87]Sign Bruce and draft a WR to groom into the system. Bruce only good for another couple of years. But he should be solid for those two years.[/QUOTE]

patten is gettin old too right?

That Guy 03-08-2006 10:20 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=mcalderone10]Bruce would def a great #2 do you think we should keep patten? he was injured last year and consistently bad when he played. If he doesn't have a good training camp i say we try to trade him or do we even let him go all the way to training camp?[/QUOTE]

he wasn't bad compared to the scrubs after him and he'd be a monster #3. his individual production wasn't great, but he did make catches and he kept moss clean and let other guys (RBs, #3 WRs, TEs) get open too.

ST21 03-08-2006 10:50 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I know a lot of people are excited about the new CBA ... and cap room. Trust me, I am absolutely elated. However, I hope we don't go crazy in free agency (assuming we get the cap room to go crazy). A lot of people have been talking about going after big name free agents. Why?

We did very well last year with a core group of solid guys. Why wreck team chemistry by revamping the roster? Sure, we need a few guys here and there, but I doubt we need more than 1-3 new starters.

Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]

Bullshit.......Santana was by himself last year....except in the Redzone, where Cooley was by himself....I need a Good #2 Eric Moulds, ..Joe Jurevious, Koren Robinson good back up...TE Dan Campbell....Oh God can we get John Abraham and Tank Williams.....at SS....next to Sean Taylor oh yeah.....and DT Trevor Pryce

celts32 03-08-2006 10:54 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Dana87]What makes you think the Redskins would even think of going crazy? What have they done over the past 2 years that would cause you concern? They now have the right formula, they know they need 2 or 3 key additions and I have every confidence that Gibbs & Co will sign the right guys. Just because alot of people are talking about signing big names, doesn't mean that that is what Gibbs & Co will do. I dont imagine that they check with the Media, or the message boards for what to do. :laughing2

It's been a tough couple of weeks. Try to sit back and enjoy the good news for awhile.[/QUOTE]

I was going to write something similar...but now I don't have to. There is no need to worry about the direction of the team under Gibbs & Co.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-08-2006 10:58 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=ST21]Bullshit.......Santana was by himself last year....except in the Redzone, where Cooley was by himself....I need a Good #2 Eric Moulds, ..Joe Jurevious, Koren Robinson good back up...TE Dan Campbell....Oh God can we get John Abraham and Tank Williams.....at SS....next to Sean Taylor oh yeah.....and DT Trevor Pryce[/QUOTE]

You're kidding, right? All those guys are old (e.g. Moulds, Jurevicious, Campbell, Pryce), have bad character (e.g. Robinson, Abraham), or will be costly (e.g. Moulds, Abraham, Pryce).

No thanks. I'll pass. If I go to cap hell, I'd prefer to have gone for some younger, better guys.

SmootSmack 03-08-2006 11:05 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]You're kidding, right? All those guys are old (e.g. Moulds, Jurevicious, Campbell, Pryce), have bad character (e.g. Robinson, Abraham), or will be costly (e.g. Moulds, Abraham, Pryce).

No thanks. I'll pass. If I go to cap hell, I'd prefer to have gone for some younger, better guys.[/QUOTE]

What would you define as old? Under 30?

RobH4413 03-08-2006 11:08 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Why isn't anyone scared sh1tless about QB?[/QUOTE]

because a healthy brunell w/ open receivers means
many touchdowns and no interceptions. unhealthy
brunell means jason campbell (unless gibbs goes into
another fit of "i love mark in the in the rain, i love
mark in a train, i would not could not put ramsey in,
i do not like anyone but him") and jason campbell
has had only good things said about him.

i think we're in good shape qb-wise

STPainmaker 03-08-2006 11:11 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
I agree we should chill a bit with free agency but we definitely neeed a #2 receiver. This just isn't debateable. The other thing is Saunders may want specific personnel for his offense and maybe we should grant him some "shopping rites if he is doing some of the cooking."

FRPLG 03-08-2006 11:12 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]What would you define as old? Under 30?[/QUOTE]
I'd say in terms of free agents the old/young line is 30. Though I'd actually prefer a productive 33 year old than a 30 year old. At 30 they aren't old enough to show much deterioration and will still cost a lot. That's a big gamble. At 33 they have had a decent amount of time to show what age is doing to them and they are much cheaper. A solid 33 year old with a solid contract is much less of a gamble to me. Not sure what Bruce is off the bat( I think 33) but age isn't totally killing him so at a decent cost he seems like a good short term solution to me. Otherwise stick to the 26-29 year olds.

Longtimefan 03-08-2006 11:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Definitely want Isaac Bruce, a decent kicker, and a CORNERBACK. And I'll take a pass rusher if we can find one that doesn't


break the bank.[/QUOTE]


And Sean Taylor dosen't go to jail.

diehardskin2982 03-08-2006 11:19 PM

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do I need to say it again Pat traded for Abraham, adam archuleta, and maybe issac bruce.

theJBexperience 03-08-2006 11:19 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Why isn't anyone scared sh1tless about QB?[/QUOTE]

I am. If Brunell goes down, so does the rest of the team in flames.

FRPLG 03-08-2006 11:21 PM

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Why isn't anyone scared sh1tless about QB?[/QUOTE]
Because there isn't much that can be done. What is your proposed solution to your proposed problem?

theJBexperience 03-08-2006 11:22 PM

Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=Dana87]Sign Bruce and draft a WR to groom into the system. Bruce only good for another couple of years. But he should be solid for those two years.[/QUOTE]

There isn't going to be any worth wild receivers left when we pick.

MTK 03-08-2006 11:23 PM

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I don't think we'll go crazy in free agency at all.

I do think we'll look long and hard at the two main problem areas, WR and DE, and go from there.


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