Patten's Smart Ass Remark
 

Taken from the WP:

Wide receiver David Patten said the same. Patten signed a five-year,$13.5 million deal with a $3.5 million signing bonus. "They didn't come to me," Patten said. "And I didn't volunteer. Would you volunteer to give your money back?"

Does that not rub anyone else the wrong way?

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I mean he could have just stopped at, "They haven't approached me."

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Yes that was annoying.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I mean he could have just stopped at, "They haven't approached me."[/QUOTE]

i agree. i dont like the cut of his jib.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I mean he could have just stopped at, "They haven't approached me."[/QUOTE]

Yeah, could have. Doesn't rub me the wrong way though . . . I wouldn't be lining up to give back any money either, though restructuring generally means the player gets bonus money in lieu of base salary so it works out for both sides and he wouldn't be "giving money back" in his words. Doesn't strike me as so horrible though.

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[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan]Yeah, could have. Doesn't rub me the wrong way though . . . I wouldn't be lining up to give back any money either, though restructuring generally means the player gets bonus money in lieu of base salary so it works out for both sides and he wouldn't be "giving money back" in his words. Doesn't strike me as so horrible though.[/QUOTE]

Meh. Still, you just don't want people saying crap like that. I mean did that serve any purpose at all besides showing us that he doesn't seem willing to restructure?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Meh. Still, you just don't want people saying crap like that. I mean did that serve any purpose at all besides showing us that he doesn't seem willing to restructure?[/QUOTE]

i agree with malcom 100%!!! GOOD POST!!!!! :biggthump

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first few posts i didnt think much of it but i also agree with malcolm. no need for him to say it like that.

maybe he knows it's bc we'd be using the money to get a real #2.

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I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying cut Patten, but just something that stuck out.

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He's right, who does volunteer to give money back so his comment does not bother me at all. Its just business and if he does not look out for his interests nobody else will.

What I do find interesting is that sports fans always complain about athletes speaking in cliches and say nothing responses so now when an athlete actually speaks in a candid manner he gets ripped. No wonder athletes never say much when they are interviewed.

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come on why make a mountain out of nothing.if your company went around cutting pay to certain employees,would you volunteer?i know its not a pay cut,just moving money around,but come on

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caught my attention too & didn't look good on paper, but maybe he was saying it in a lighter manner than it appeared.
What worrys me is that he said at the end of last year that he was healthy enough to play & sounded unhappy that he'd been put on IR. I recall also reading that he felt he didn't get the ball thrown his way enough. We brought him on board cause he's a vet w/a winning history & still has some speed. we certainly don't need any problems cause it ain't like he's a feature reciever in this league.

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11 or 12 players restructured for the good of the team. Then Patten adopts this me-first, F-the team attidue? As I was reading it my first thought was cut the bastard, but Coach Joe will do what is best...

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bjschmon welcome back!!

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[QUOTE=bjschmonsees]11 or 12 players restructured for the good of the team. Then Patten adopts this me-first, F-the team attidue? As I was reading it my first thought was cut the bastard, but Coach Joe will do what is best...[/QUOTE]

I'm certain that the sole reason those 11 or 12 players restructured was not because it was good for the team. If it didnt work for them then they were not going to do it.

Of course like I mentioned in a previous post they will say all the good for the team bs because thats what fans want to hear and will keep them from getting ripped.

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do you think any of the players actually volunteered to restructure?

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[QUOTE=Duffman003]do you think any of the players actually volunteered to restructure?[/QUOTE]

No way.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12]caught my attention too & didn't look good on paper, but maybe he was saying it in a lighter manner than it appeared.
What worrys me is that he said at the end of last year that he was healthy enough to play & sounded unhappy that he'd been put on IR. I recall also reading that he felt he didn't get the ball thrown his way enough. We brought him on board cause he's a vet w/a winning history & still has some speed. we certainly don't need any problems cause it ain't like he's a feature reciever in this league.[/QUOTE]

but see thats nothing to get your panties in a bunch about. i mean it would have been a crapshoot if the skins were to leave him on the active roster "hoping" to make the playoffs

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I didn't make too much of it. One thing I found kind of interesting was that Portis' contract apparently specifically stipulated that the Redskins reserved the right to restructure it. So even if Portis didn't want to restructure he really didn't have that much of a choice it seems, I wonder how many other players had similar contracts

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regardless... he's making a point.

granted an unnecessary point that has no constructive value. none. unless redskins ask him to restructure now... hehehe

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This is really no big deal. I think we're digging deep into a pretty honest statement someone made. No biggy.

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its honest, and im sure many people feel that way on the team, just why say it? :doh:

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being honest and being stupid can happen at the same time....

when pattten makes some big plays then he can preach all he wants

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i concur. make plays next year then say that type of $h1t.

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Maybe they should have asked Patten to return some of his money last year since he couldn't make it through the entire season the way Santana did.

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haha

now we might be thinking a "bit" too much into it. i think malcolm was just saying that it irritated him.

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]This is really no big deal. I think we're digging deep into a pretty honest statement someone made. No biggy.[/QUOTE]

I would agree, but after the season he had, well, things sound a little different. If anything, this really solidifies the fact that he is bitter, and probably not happy here.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]i concur. make plays next year then say that type of $h1t.[/QUOTE]

I am certain no matter what plays he makes next season when he speaks honestly he will get ripped. When it comes to honesty and looking out for their own interests, players cant win with fans.

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I work for the Fed & give money back in taxes every payday!

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I thought it sounded bad, but he is right. He also didn't say he would not have if he were asked to. A slip up in public speaking probably.

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[QUOTE=Duffman003]do you think any of the players actually volunteered to restructure?[/QUOTE]

I think a very large percentage of players approached the team to restructure. I beleive that at least Jansen, Portis, and Brunell did... It is part of the team first attitude Coach Joe Gibbs has brought back to the team. If the team can do better, I can do better. Gibbs' type of guys...

Thanks, Dmek, for welcoming me back! I've returned from a very excellent vacation to New Zealand and Bora Bora!
:point:

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[QUOTE=backrow]I work for the Fed & give money back in taxes every payday![/QUOTE]They come to you and tell you that you have to give money back. Do you volunterr and pay extra tax money back? LOL I don't find what he said that bad. you know how the press can make something sound bad. He just said that they did not come to him and then maybe laughing said the comment about he wasn't going to volunterr and give money back. I could see that comment as a joke and the press not mention that he was laughing and joking as it was said.

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[QUOTE=backrow]I work for the Fed & give money back in taxes every payday![/QUOTE]

Not voluntarily. I know I dont volunteer that money, I just let them take it so I dont end up sharing a cell with Marion Barry.

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[QUOTE=bjschmonsees]I think a very large percentage of players approached the team to restructure. I beleive that at least Jansen, Portis, and Brunell did... It is part of the team first attitude Coach Joe Gibbs has brought back to the team. If the team can do better, I can do better. Gibbs' type of guys...

Thanks, Dmek, for welcoming me back! I've returned from a very excellent vacation to New Zealand and Bora Bora!
:point:[/QUOTE]

sounds awesome, when i get old enough i wanna go there for spring break. PARTY!! :party-smi

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"Give back" isn't always the case. Frequently, restructures are simply guaranteeing some salary as signing bonus, to be able to spread it over coming years, or converting roster bonuses to signing bonuses for the same reason. The money stays the same, it's just tabulated differently.

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true, we were going over this in algebra the other day and i was telling them about the skins contracts and theres a formula they use.

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Well, he is speaking the truth, isn't he?

His statement probably looks worse in print than it really is.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Taken from the WP:

Wide receiver David Patten said the same. Patten signed a five-year,$13.5 million deal with a $3.5 million signing bonus. "They didn't come to me," Patten said. "And I didn't volunteer. Would you volunteer to give your money back?"

Does that not rub anyone else the wrong way?[/QUOTE]

Patton shut up and earn your money!!!! Like many free agents you tock the money but put up little to earn it! Over rated yes! A reach yes! A team player I have questions! You really come off by saying what you said like this...... I got my Money and Rings so deal with it!!! This is Gibbs only bad move that I can see!!!!!!! :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: Patten :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: Man I sure wish we could cut him and get someone that really could be#2 WR. But at BEST he is a #3 or #4 WR!

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he is, but sometimes i think the truth is meant to be kept to yourself.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Well, he is speaking the truth, isn't he?

His statement probably looks worse in print than it really is.[/QUOTE]

Just earn your money baby!!!!!!!!!! :coach: