Compensation for Lloyd
 

[size=2]Per [url="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/03/11/SPGH9HML4D1.DTL"]SFGate.com[/url] article:

The Redskins are reportedly interested in trading for Lloyd, who led the 49ers in receptions last year. A source close to Lloyd said Washington was prepared to offer [b]a third-round choice this season and a fourth rounder in next year's draft[/b]. Lloyd, who apparently has been secretly seeking a trade, expected the deal to be completed.[/size]

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Is that too much?? Hard to tell.

If he's the next Santana Moss or makes that kind of leap forward, it's a steal.

If's he's the next David Patton, we got robbed.

I go by this one thing when it comes to stuff like this, if Gibbs likes him enough to pay that kind of price there must be something to it.

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Two mid round picks for a RFA?

Pretty good deal for the Skins if you ask me.

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Yeah it's a steal.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Two mid round picks for a RFA?

Pretty good deal for the Skins if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with that. I know the Skins need to add some depth, but there aren't a whole lot of players who will be available in those rounds who will have the same type of impact that Brandon Lloyd would have in his first season with us. Also, he's still a young player, but I thought he had some character issues.

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Sounds good 2 me as long as he can get open and make some catches wen we need him 2 catch it or make some big plays down da line

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sounds like a pretty good deal to me

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sooner it is completed, the sooner i can breathe easy

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one mid rounder this year and one next year sound a lot better to me than the 1st round pick cost of his being a RFA. I hope it works out and they r smart about his contract and don't give him too much.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Two mid round picks for a RFA?

Pretty good deal for the Skins if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

The compensation package sounds fair to me, he's definitely not worth a 1st or 2nd rounder IMO. Just hoping we don't overpay in the salary department.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

I think he is worth ONE second for sure. I mean i wanted that second for a pretty good rookie WR and I think that Lloyd is better than them.

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]I think he is worth ONE second for sure. I mean i wanted that second for a pretty good rookie WR and I think that Lloyd is better than them.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. When I first read about the Lloyd rumours, I expected us to have to part with our 2nd at least. But a third this year and a six next? Jump on that sh** b4 they come to their senses.

I have to admit, I have not seen Lloyd play so I don't know what he really looks like in a game. But the more I have read about him, the more I like him.

Just posted this in the Brandon Lloyd thread before seeing this one (damn, those duplicate threads!!!):

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=159055#post159055[/url]

Essentially, saying that with Moss opposite him, Lloyd could really do well.

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I have been wondering why this trade hasn't happen yet, but I finally found out what the redskins are probably doing. They're are flyin' in Randle El.... IMO They haven't contacted Nolan about Lloyd yet because they are gonna lock up Randle El first and he'll be our #2 then they go ahead with the Lloyd trade. I just read the SF article on Lloyd and it said that a trade of Lloyd would free up the 49ers to go after Randle El but the Skins are genius they are get Randle El b4 the 49ers can offer him a contract because a trade of Lloyd would allow the 9ers to offer more then the Skins but maybe not b4 sssssoooo...

#1 Sign Randle El, Cater, and Archie
#2 Trade 4 Lloyd
#3 ??????

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Guess I would trade for Lloyd first - If the Skins sign El and SF believes El to be their best option, then, with their chosen receiving option off the board, why would SF trade away their prior year's top receiver?

Also, both money and intangibles wise, given the choice - where you gonna play, SF or Washington? If you have to think about this for more than two seconds, I suggest you take up baseball.

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Bite me PWND - go find a rhubarb or something. I know you're secretly TAFKAS' love-child so I am sure you and he are conspiring to hold my genius down.

Shouldn't you be doing homework?

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Admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of Lloyd. He sounds interesting, but the claims that he is soft, a locker room disturbance, and doesn't take responsibility don't make me very happy. But, since I haven't read the book on him, I'll just assume Gibbs can figure this guy out and determine whether he's worth trading for.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]The compensation package sounds fair to me, he's definitely not worth a 1st or 2nd rounder IMO. Just hoping we don't overpay in the salary department.[/QUOTE]

John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.[/QUOTE]

Same as what Koren Robinson got right? With the new CBA rules is a $10 million SB whopping? Honestly I don't know. What did Harrison get, $13.5?

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of Lloyd. He sounds interesting, but the claims that he is soft, a locker room disturbance, and doesn't take responsibility don't make me very happy. But, since I haven't read the book on him, I'll just assume Gibbs can figure this guy out and determine whether he's worth trading for.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much my opinion on the situation. I don't know all there is to know about this guy, but I've seen some of the ridiculous catches he's made and that makes me think that there is definitely a spot for him on the team. However, I do have my reservations about his attitude. I'm putting my faith in Gibbs on this one. He'll decide if he's worth taking the chance on and if he can reign him in some. I, personally, think that Gibbs could get him to play within this system, however, Gibbs won't be around forever, so I think that Saunders really needs to sign off on this one as well.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Same as what Koren Robinson got right? With the new CBA rules is a $10 million SB whopping? Honestly I don't know. What did Harrison get, $13.5?[/QUOTE]

I have no clue whether the $10 million is "whopping" (as I put it earlier). But, at least under the old CBA $10 million is big, big money. I don't know the details of K. Robinson's or Harrison's contracts. I know that Reggie Wayne got about $13 million.

Maybe they see a lot in Lloyd. Maybe Lloyd will be the next Santana Moss. It just seems like a lot of dough.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I'd agree with that. I know the Skins need to add some depth, but there aren't a whole lot of players who will be available in those rounds who will have the same type of impact that Brandon Lloyd would have in his first season with us. Also, he's still a young player, but I thought he had some character issues.[/QUOTE]

he obviously does if the 49ers are so willing to part with him and he was secretly working on trades.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]John Clayton is saying we're expected to give him a whopping $10 million SB.[/QUOTE]

how long is the deal? whether thats a lot on not really depends on contract length.

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I'm not really thrilled with our picks in FA so far. R'el is quality (i was just worried about price). I don't like AA (expense and can't cover), and i'm worried about lloyd (he has talent, but high cost to get him, possible character issues, etc). I don't know jack about andre so i'll assume GW thinks he's the answer we need.

I'm surprised we didn't make a play on a DT or true DE yet. I guess they figure on drafting them. if we give up our 3rd then we probably need to get a CB or trade into the 4th, draft OL late, and sign a TE.

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Per NFL network [b][i][url="http://www.nfl.com/writers/schefter"]Adam Schefter[/url]

[/i][/b]Washington and San Francisco are nearing a deal that would send a 2006 third-round pick and a 2007 fourth-round selection to the 49ers for wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396021"]Brandon Lloyd[/url]. Pending a physical, the deal should be completed before the end of the weekend.

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2 draft picks for Lloyd seems a bit much. I think 1 would be plenty. I mean he hasn't done all that much in san fran to recieve 2 draft picks regardless if they are low picks or not.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]I'm not really thrilled with our picks in FA so far...I'm surprised we didn't make a play on a DT or true DE yet. I guess they figure on drafting them. if we give up our 3rd then we probably need to get a CB or trade into the 4th, draft OL late, and sign a TE.[/QUOTE]Andre Carter is a legit DE. I know he is listed as an OLB as of late and that's because he was playing in the 3-4. This could also be the reason his stats fell off after making the pro bowl earlier in his career playing in the 4-3. Think Kenard Lang but, drafted in the first round. Kenard absolutely sucked as OLB in the 3-4. And his Madden '06 attributes showed.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]he obviously does if the 49ers are so willing to part with him and he was secretly working on trades.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he does, but to be completely honest, I think I would have "character issues" if I played for the sorry no account Niners, too. I mean, come on, they barely looked like they were trying to win last year. I'd be pretty pissed too. I know that there are plenty of guys who just shut up and play, I'm not saying it's okay to be a prick, but I think a change of scenery may be the answer for Lloyd. Plus, I have faith that Gibbs could rein this kid in.

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[b]Redskins | Nearing deal for Lloyd[/b]
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:15:23 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">[color=#0000ff]NFL[/color] Network, reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]San Francisco 49ers[/color][/url] are nearing a deal that would have the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Redskins[/color][/url] sending a 2006 third-round pick and a 2007 fourth-round selection to the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]49ers[/color][/url] for WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/5908/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Brandon Lloyd[/color][/url]. Pending a physical, the deal should be completed before the end of the weekend.

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I knew Synder was going to pull the unexpected. Hell while we were looking at Howard and Givens Synder was looking at Carter and Lloyd.

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[QUOTE=steveo395][b]Redskins | Nearing deal for Lloyd[/b]
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:15:23 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl">[color=#0000ff]NFL[/color] Network, reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/color][/url] and [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]San Francisco 49ers[/color][/url] are nearing a deal that would have the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Redskins[/color][/url] sending a 2006 third-round pick and a 2007 fourth-round selection to the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/32/nfl"][color=#0000ff]49ers[/color][/url] for WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/5908/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Brandon Lloyd[/color][/url]. Pending a physical, the deal should be completed before the end of the weekend.[/QUOTE]

Stevo man you gotta make it so your links are clickable. Its sooooo hard to copy, then paste, then press enter. Damn you Stevo, as if this day wasn't already nerve rattling.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359]Stevo man you gotta make it so your links are clickable. Its sooooo hard to copy, then paste, then press enter. Damn you Stevo, as if this day wasn't already nerve rattling.[/QUOTE]
well that one link always automatically comes up...i dont even copy and paste it

[url="http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl"]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl[/url]

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Andre Carter is a legit DE. I know he is listed as an OLB as of late and that's because he was playing in the 3-4. This could also be the reason his stats fell off after making the pro bowl earlier in his career playing in the 4-3. Think Kenard Lang but, drafted in the first round. Kenard absolutely sucked as OLB in the 3-4. And his Madden '06 attributes showed.[/QUOTE]

makes sense... again, he's not a guy i know well, i only saw about 3 or 4 49er games. maybe he's the next marcus washington (only at DE).

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Andre Carter is listed at 6' 4" 270lbs. Hardly LB material. Take a look.

[url]http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/image.php?productid=18760[/url]

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Do we get [URL=http://www.blloyd.com/audio.php]B-Dub[/URL] as part of the deal too? (Click on the Cold Pizza link)

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Andre Carter is listed at 6' 4" 270lbs. Hardly LB material. Take a look.

[url="http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/image.php?productid=18760"]http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/image.php?productid=18760[/url][/QUOTE]

yeah my bad. hopefully he can do whatever GW needs him for.

man, lloyd is the best rapper... EVER.

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I think that's a good deal. We'd definitely be getting someone good. But then we'd only have what, a second round pick, then the rest would all be 5th, 6ths, and 7's?

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I wonder how many skins fans are gonna buy his album in the coming weeks. I think Shaq was a more legit rapper.

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I hope everyone has seen this highlight reel. Thanks to RedskinsKick'.

[url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5&q=lloyd+49ers"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5&q=lloyd+49ers[/url]

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]I hope everyone has seen this highlight reel. Thanks to RedskinsKick'.

[url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5&q=lloyd+49ers"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5&q=lloyd+49ers[/url][/QUOTE]

its been linked about 8 times now :( its still only like 4 catches replayed 4 times each, some of which are from 2004.