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[url="http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20060314-010610-1179r.htm"][color=#800080]Wynn may get boot[/color][/url]
March 14
Washington Times: "While the Redskins have a greater need at linebacker after the release of three-time Pro Bowl selection LaVar Arrington, Carter fits better at defensive end, which could put holdover starter Renaldo Wynn in jeopardy of being cut."

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Not surprising, I don't think we can afford to keep both Wynn and Daniels with one of them riding the bench.

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i dont think we will cut him, didnt he just re-structure? he is a valuable locker room presence, and we need depth there still with evans being a free agent

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Unless we bring in someone new I don't see that!

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We are already short on DEs and the addition of Carter doesn't really help. Evens (played DT at times) and Clemons (he played mostly 3rd downs) were pretty much it for the DE crew. No one is getting cut unless we add another DE.

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I hope we keep Wynn, he's a great run stuffer, doesn't make a lot of tackles but plugs the gap & holds his ground for out backers to make plays.
The knock on carter is his run stopping. I see wynn making the rotation even if he doesn't start.

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I hope we keep Wynn, hes a huge chemistry guy on our team and to be honest, I'm getting very very very slightly worried about our group coming together. i'm pretty sure Wynn and Danieils will stay. We need to resign Evans ASAP, i'm telling you that kid is a star in the making.

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i agree, evans wants to start though and i cant see him displacing daniels.

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I believe we will keep Wynn for depth. Wynn, Daniels can play either tackle or end. Plus wynn plays a big role in the locker room. A gibbs guy!!

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i dont really think evans is a star in the making, but i do think he is a solid player and should be re-signed if possible

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[QUOTE=Fan4Life][url="http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20060314-010610-1179r.htm"][color=#800080]Wynn may get boot[/color][/url]
March 14
Washington Times: "While the Redskins have a greater need at linebacker after the release of three-time Pro Bowl selection LaVar Arrington, Carter fits better at defensive end, which could put holdover starter Renaldo Wynn in jeopardy of being cut."[/QUOTE]


if it means signing abraham, i do not like it a bit

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Forget Abraham ... we are not signing him. We're looking at free agency purely for depth now (with the possible exception of OLB).

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dont even really want abraham personally

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I wouldn't have much of an issue with us cutting Wynn. He doesn't really bring any production to the table and he makes too much money. I say we keep Daniels to start and re-sign Evans.

Also, if the coaching staff thinks Evans could become a starter, why not bring him back and tell him to wait out the Phillip Daniels era. It won't be that much longer, he's not getting any younger.

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I think they like Evans' versatility, he filled in some at DT last year while Big Joe and Griff were out. But they're not going to offer him starters money. But who will?

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true. i think hes deluding himself into thinking someone will offer him that. he might want to try and show some team spirit and stay. as gw says, EVERYONE is a starter in certain packages.

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Wynn is a monster run stuffer, they need to keep him and play him on 1st and 2nd downs so we can keep a pass rushing DE kami-kaze fresh!

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Williams is always rotating players. Don't be surprised if we keep Wynn, assuming he comes back fully healthy, and Carter comes in on 2nd/3rd down a lot.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]i agree, evans wants to start though and i cant see him displacing daniels.[/QUOTE]

According to the ESPN the book on Evans is that too many snaps wears him down. That doesn't sound like a starter.

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wynn is 295lbs, if he was going to be cut, it would have happened already.

They like him in the lockerroom and he's a good DT, my guess is he becomes our #2 and joe S goes back to the bench, or they rotate.

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He's a decent contributor and I think we need Wynn's leadership in the locker room with so many new free agents............

P.S. he's from notre dame.....my fav college team too........... :course this has nothing to do with my sentiments towards the guy :rolleyes:

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I think they's cut Patten before Wynn. You can never have enough defensive line depth. Wynn like Daniels can also play inside. GW is going to have a alot of versitile players this season, something he loves. He is known as one of the leaders is in this lockeroom Gibbs respects that.


Patten on the other hand has two strikes against him. One, he cannot play special teams...McCants couldn't or wouldn't...where did that get him as the 4th reciever...out the door. Two, Gibbs has always had a low tolerace for guys who stir things up in the Press. Could the fact that he gets paid way too much to be a 4th reciever be strike three...we'll see soon enough.

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[QUOTE=TrustinGibbs]I think they's cut Patten before Wynn. You can never have enough defensive line depth. Wynn like Daniels can also play inside. GW is going to have a alot of versitile players this season, something he loves. He is known as one of the leaders is in this lockeroom Gibbs respects that.


Patten on the other hand has two strikes against him. One, he cannot play special teams...McCants couldn't or wouldn't...where did that get him as the 4th reciever...out the door. Two, Gibbs has always had a low tolerace for guys who stir things up in the Press. Could the fact that he gets paid way too much to be a 4th reciever be strike three...we'll see soon enough.[/QUOTE]

he hasn't stirred anything up, and he's a MUCH MUCH better WR than mccants and unlike mccants, football is his priority.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]he hasn't stirred anything up, and he's a MUCH MUCH better WR than mccants and unlike mccants, football is his priority.[/QUOTE]

agreed, lets not forget... patten is still a good receiver. I would have been appeased w/ a receiving corps of just Lloyd, Moss, Patten... etc. Would I rather have randel el... of course, I just didn't think it was going to happen.

I think right now our focus should be depth at CB, LB, OL, DL... thats pretty much accepted by everyone I think. Lets not have another instance of sub-par CB's not being able to fill in for an injured Springs. That got a little ridiculous.

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We need quality depth. We are fine with the Cap. Absolutly no reason to cut one of the leaders of the team.

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Saw it comming...he was overpaid anyway. Anyone know if cutting him will hurt our cap.

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it'd only save 400k, he's not getting cut.

he's now a DT/DE tweener that'll spend a lot of time inside.

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We have to retain Wynn or Evans.

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As per the Times report today, if we do release him, it will be after June 1. We'll see...

(See the Times article in another thread... sorry no linky!)

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[quote=JWsleep]As per the Times report today, if we do release him, it will be after June 1. We'll see...

(See the Times article in another thread... sorry no linky!)[/quote]

the times article is wrong on that though. in the new cba, you can realease 2 players AT ANY TIME in the offseason and count them as old june 1st cuts as far as spreading the cap hit... that way teams get their savings and the players get on the market sooner.

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Aha! I stand corrected. Teach me to read the Times!

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[quote=JWsleep]Aha! I stand corrected. Teach me to read the Times![/quote]

it was a shame, cause besides that it was a good article... if anyone has his e-mail address, i'll send him a correction...

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Does anyone know how much Sam Adams was paid last year? Wynn is definitely a solid player but I would definitely give him up for Adams.

Hell, sign Adams outright! They have over 4 million in cap room.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Does anyone know how much Sam Adams was paid last year? Wynn is definitely a solid player but I would definitely give him up for Adams.

Hell, sign Adams outright! They have over 4 million in cap room.[/quote]

we have 3 needs and DT isn't one of them. adams is also 34 now and on the decline. LB, OL, CB #3 + draft picks is about all that money is going to get you.

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[quote=That Guy]we have 3 needs and DT isn't one of them. adams is also 34 now and on the decline. LB, OL, CB #3 + draft picks is about all that money is going to get you.[/quote]

Well excuse me Vinny. You can never have too much depth on the line and if they release Wynn guess what... They will need another lineman.

Also, what is your criteria for stating that he is on the decline. If that is the case why was he rated as the 24th best available free agent by ESPN??

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]You can never have too much depth on the line[/quote]

So true. Put the CB talk on hold while we settle the line problem.

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[quote=GTripp0012]So true. Put the CB talk on hold while we settle the line problem.[/quote]

he meant the D line which has plenty of depth right now between wynn, daniels, carter, griffin, joe, killings, bosch, etc. why do we need to use all our space to fill a non need and bring in an old guy that'd repalce people that can sstick around longer? they said they wanted to get youth in the DL depth, not more age.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Well excuse me Vinny. You can never have too much depth on the line and if they release Wynn guess what... They will need another lineman.

Also, what is your criteria for stating that he is on the decline. If that is the case why was he rated as the 24th best available free agent by ESPN??[/quote]

how many players get better after 34? how many years do you expect him to play? is he more important than OL depth or that gaping hole at ROLB? we have good DT depth at least 3-4 deep, the money can be better spent fill actual needs... unless you're comfortable knowing that if a OL starter goes down we're fscked or that our ROLB may suck all year and there won't be any way to fix it, but hey, we got a 4th starting DT, so who cares?

if you want to debate thats fine, but let's try facts instead of weak smack.

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Yeah I have to agree with That Guy, Adams may have ben good 2 years ago, but lets face it he is no spring chicken and with that amount of weight on his legs at his age he will get tired out way to fast... Do we need to up grade our DT's? I dont know but if we do I hope that it will be with someone much younger than 34...

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hes a golden domer and a great dt/de please dont let him go notre dame players always play big in nfl yess?