What Gibbs hasn't Done....landing the small fish!!!
 

Gibbs and Company have done great landing the big fish in free agency with big money....Randle El, Archuleta, Washington, Griffin, and Carter! Great job! As for the draft not bad as well taking Taylor and Rogers along with Campbell in the first round. Better yet was a 3rd rounder used on Cooley. As for the rest of the draft so-so with six picks and only four still with the team. Trades has been another big thing that has goen well for Gibbs trading for Moss,Burnell, Lloyd and Portis. But getting that small fish will make or break the 06 season. The Gibbs Skins have picked up lesser known players like R.Clark, Rabach[Maybe he is a little bigger then a small fish] and Prioleau. Really no others to speck of under Gibbs. He will need to do so if we are to win a Super Bowl. After the big Free Agent free for all and all that money you still have to have fill in's,back up's and a player or two that starts. We filled in a TE spot with Fauria and that was nice. But a OLB or MLB starter will be needed along with a 3rd and 4th CB and OL depth! Money this time will not get these thing!!! Most of that is goen. The draft and free agency will have to do it. The draft has one high pick [a 2nd] with the rest low picks that have not been historically good for the Redskins. So maybe one or two of the needs can be filled through the draft but the rest will have to be filled with another teams cut or free agency. Turn on that Gibbs Charm there is more work to do. By the way you also need a Kicker and a Punter as well.

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hes not finished by any means. he even said that that they had other 'fill in the blanks' type guys on their radar. plus we have some back up material on the practice squad and nfl europe.

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hall is our kicker. frost is our punter, they've made no attempt to fix that.

tyler jones is the camp competition, and i think an undrafted college guy (koch) should at least be brought in for competition at punter.

There are some interesting projects at OL/CB/LB in the 5th round this year, but we pick so late that i don't know who'll be left.

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[QUOTE=Heart of Burgundy & Gold]hes not finished by any means. he even said that that they had other 'fill in the blanks' type guys on their radar. plus we have some back up material on the practice squad and nfl europe.[/QUOTE]

joe and company are not close 2 bein done by anymeans.

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Small fish like Washington?

The depth we've acquired in some cases are last year's starters. Phillip Daniels has had health concerns in the past. Now, inistead of relying on a UDFA to step up, our depth chart has three proven starters.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Small fish like Washington?

The depth we've acquired in some cases are last year's starters. Phillip Daniels has had health concerns in the past. Now, inistead of relying on a UDFA to step up, our depth chart has three proven starters.[/QUOTE]

First off Washington isn't a small fish!! I put him with this years big guns. As for the rest of your post there are places we do have depth but O line is not one of them. When you are in a play-off game and your back up guard is a washed up center will you need help! Just think if someone else went down!

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So sorry, my sarcasm button is broken on this PC.

O line depth is a concern, but we still have the draft, training camp, and June cuts to fill those slots. We bemoan the fact that our team all but ignores the draft, yet demand a complete roster in March. Patience is my new buzzword (replacing "diarrhea" in a close vote).

In years past, our March roster has not been an indication of our September roster (remember the Jacquez Green era?). Let's wait, and enjoy the ride.

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It amazes me that people want to complain about what Gibbs hasn't done.. 'Gibbs hasn't made the winter warm enough! I still need to occassionally scrape ice off my windshield in the morning.' Give it a rest, are we coming off our best season in years? Yes. Have we had a great offseason thusfar? Yes. Wait until August before complaining about the teams' makeup and depth will ya?

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If people here are all talking about the lack of depth on the OL, getting another CB and LB do you really believe Gibbs and Co. haven't been working on that for months now?? Teams will still cut quality players in June, we still have the draft(not gonna get much there) and Free Agency didn't all of the sudden end yesterday.


Joe Gibbs is generally reguarded as the most prepared coach in the NFL...maybe EVER...now he is basically running the franchise...is he going to be any less prepared?

All the doubters, know one thing...wherever your mind is...GIbb's and company are atleast two steps ahead. Thats Gibb's history in the NFL, Nascar and back in the NFL. This guy knows what he is doing, has built winners in two sports and will get the job done....know that.

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My assessment of Gibbs offseason so far? ..........:biggthump

If diehard 'Skins fans are scratching their heads over his next move, think about what the competition is doing.

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I agree they don't have the depth they should right now but they do have time and the bench players won't cause much fanfare anyway. All the big names are in and the rest of them will be blurbs in the newspaper. Had Ramsey been traded already Todd Collins would have been a blurb in the paper. Maybe not because the Redskins pretty much are the crown jewel of the city.

Since we know they need depth who's out there that they should look at ? I think Orlando Brown who was just released by the team who is a close second on my most hated teams list to the Dallas Cowboys, the Baltimore Ravens. He would probably be good behind Chris Samuels who is bothered by that ankle at times.


Who else has started drinking already ?

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I think at this point, gibbs and his personnel staff should put more focus on the draft with the few choices that they have (if they haven't already). They seem to haven't been successful at rounds 4 and later. Part of that is not having many picks because I believe the success of draft picks at any round is more about chance than anything else - the more picks that you have, the better chances of success, statistically (sp?) and logically (sp?) thinking.

The draft-related results that have encouraged me about gibbs and co. are the high success rate of rounds 1 - 3 with the few they've had. If they can be consistent and translate some of that success of the earlier rounds to the later rounds, they would be the best personnel staff in the nfl in my opinion. I believe that this could be done by spending (a lot) more time and energy of evaluating draft talent - it's easier to evaluate talent in the early rounds - less players to evaluate and more control with the draft picks. This is easier said than done I know, but I believe this is part of the reason Saunders is on board now - to free up Gibbs to be able to do this stuff.

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your phonetics are actually very good. you should trust yourself more. for real!

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... and the reason that they lack depth is because of the redskins draft results:
(1) Weak results from round 4 and on.
(2) Not enough draft choices.

I believe you need to build about half of team depth (whatever that comes out to, just a guesstimation) from the draft of the later rounds.

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I have been fishing for over 15 years and landing small fish just ant no fun.

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath]I think at this point, gibbs and his personnel staff should put more focus on the draft with the few choices that they have (if they haven't already). They seem to haven't been successful at rounds 4 and later. Part of that is not having many picks because I believe the success of draft picks at any round is more about chance than anything else - the more picks that you have, the better chances of success, statistically (sp?) and logically (sp?) thinking.

The draft-related results that have encouraged me about gibbs and co. are the high success rate of rounds 1 - 3 with the few they've had. If they can be consistent and translate some of that success of the earlier rounds to the later rounds, they would be the best personnel staff in the nfl in my opinion. I believe that this could be done by spending (a lot) more time and energy of evaluating draft talent - it's easier to evaluate talent in the early rounds - less players to evaluate and more control with the draft picks. This is easier said than done I know, but I believe this is part of the reason Saunders is on board now - to free up Gibbs to be able to do this stuff.[/QUOTE]

we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.

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[QUOTE=MonkFan4Life]I agree they don't have the depth they should right now but they do have time and the bench players won't cause much fanfare anyway. All the big names are in and the rest of them will be blurbs in the newspaper. Had Ramsey been traded already Todd Collins would have been a blurb in the paper. Maybe not because the Redskins pretty much are the crown jewel of the city.

Since we know they need depth who's out there that they should look at ? I think Orlando Brown who was just released by the team who is a close second on my most hated teams list to the Dallas Cowboys, the Baltimore Ravens. He would probably be good behind Chris Samuels who is bothered by that ankle at times.


Who else has started drinking already ?[/QUOTE]

ill be drinking at lunch. im going to a restaurant called malones, its right across from salerno's. that will give you a hint about me.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]I have been fishing for over 15 years and landing small fish just ant no fun.[/QUOTE]

I hear what you are saying but if you need to put food on the table the little ones fight off hunger!!!

By starting this post I wasn't putting down Gibbs. Or saying he wasn't going to get around to it. Just pointing out that the blue collar guy that past Gibbs teams have been known for have been lacking this time around. These are the guys that are not the top free agent for what ever reason. In the past flush with great players,great coaching and hard work under Gibbs. R.Clark is one of those guys but we haven't had that many come in other then him the past two seasons. Let me tell you it will be a few of these kind of players that will make this team move to the next level! Gibbs has been great in everything that he has done...Thank you! I was just saying that these so called nothing pick ups will be big when the season gets going as players get hurt or need some rest! Let us not forget Seattle game were a center had to play a guard spot!

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[QUOTE=That Guy]we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.[/QUOTE]

I see the need to continue to keep an eye on the free agent market, but I think what they have planned in free agent market is already in process (maybe not done, but being patient with what they have planned).

And yeah, assuming the past draft results, they only have 1 pick to address 3 needs and depth. But if they put more time and effort in working the later rounds, they could be more confident in maybe addressing needs and depth - instead of relying just on picks 1-3 and free agency every year.

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... and they can start off this year in order to build something for next year. You know learning from mistakes. I just can't believe in ignoring rounds 4 and later, if there is chance of success there.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.[/QUOTE]

That is right on the money. I think we can get two OL man and a LB in free agency if we act in the next few weeks. Maybe a CB as well. But the 2nd pick could be used for that CB or OL spot. If it was me I would try like hell to fill all these needs with free agents if they were out there. The money has to be right. You see its not as hard to get a player to come play for you when you throw a ton of cash his way. It's another thing to get a good player to play for you at a cost that isn't over the top!

Then use the draft for the best player out there when the pick come up! Just maybe we can catch a starter in the lower rounds!

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yeah, after round 3 its much harder and you can't count on those guys to contribute (especially not the first year) in future plans. Its just pot shots hoping for a hit.

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I know that the draft is never a sure thing, especially the later rounds - but who's to say the redskins can't successful there, too. Compared to other teams in fa and early rounds, the redskins are the best by far. It's my fan opinion, I know - but I am also realistically looking at it. To me, the redskins' early round and fa picks are money. Other teams - they seem to be crap shots, even with fa. With other teams, it's like a box of chocolates...

To me, there's nothing from stopping them from doing that in the later rounds too. I mean why can't they ? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that they just haven't put a lot of time in doing that.

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Like I've said before, pessimism doesn't work with me. If you have a resource that's available, get the best out of it. I don't believe that something is not going work, just because it hasn't in the past, just do something different or try harder at it.

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I wouldn't call the guys we picked up "big fish" to start with. Yes, they got some good money, but these are guys that fill some glaring holes for us.

The Dan Snyder of 2000 would have scooped up T.O., Edge, Culpepper by now. Not because we need them, but because he could.

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[QUOTE=redrock-skins]I wouldn't call the guys we picked up "big fish" to start with. Yes, they got some good money, but these are guys that fill some glaring holes for us.

The Dan Snyder of 2000 would have scooped up T.O., Edge, Culpepper by now. Not because we need them, but because he could.[/QUOTE]

well, there's definately an arguement for culpepper.