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CooleyFan 03-22-2006 09:32 AM

2006 Free Agent Cornerbacks
 
Andre' Goodman
Brian Williams
Chad Scott
Charles Woodson
Chris Johnson
Corey Ivy
Dale Carter
Dante Wesley
Deion Sanders
DeJuan Groce
DeShea Townsend
DeWayne Washington
Fakhir Brown
Frank Walker
Hank Poteat
Ike Taylor
Jamar Fletcher
Jason Bell
Jerry Azumah
Jimmy Williams
Juran Bolden
Kenny Wright
Kevin House
Kevin Thomas
Kiwaukee Thomas
Leigh Bodden
Nate Clements
R.W. McQuarters
Ralph Brown
Ray Mickens
Raymond Walls
Reggie Myles
Reynaldo Hill
Ricky Manning
Robert Tate
Roderick Hood
Terry Cousin
Terry Fair
Tony Beckham
Torrie Cox
Will Allen
Willie Middlebrooks



HMMM Jerry Azumah, R.W. McQuarters, Will Allen, Roderick Hood, DeShea Townsend, and Ike Taylor? Those are pretty solid. More solid than Walt Harris, or ol' dumbass #25. What do you all think?

That Guy 03-22-2006 09:56 AM

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[quote=CooleyFan]
HMMM Jerry Azumah, R.W. McQuarters, Will Allen, Roderick Hood, DeShea Townsend, and Ike Taylor? Those are pretty solid. More solid than Walt Harris, or ol' dumbass #25. What do you all think?[/quote]

McQuarters and allen and townsend are all signed already. azumah might be too, and ike taylor isn't happening (the steelers wont let him go).

andre dyson is the best value.

diehardskin2982 03-22-2006 10:56 AM

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I said in another post that I know it ain't gonna happen, but I would love to see Woodson or Law in the mix.

RedskinPete 03-22-2006 10:58 AM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]I said in another post that I know it ain't gonna happen, but I would love to see Woodson or Law in the mix.[/QUOTE]

We can wish! Love to see Woodson!

EXoffender 03-22-2006 10:59 AM

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Will Allen should come cheap.

amorentz 03-22-2006 11:16 AM

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[quote=EXoffender]Will Allen should come cheap.[/quote]

Signed with the Dolphins last week...

That Guy 03-22-2006 12:06 PM

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[quote=RedskinPete]We can wish! Love to see Woodson![/quote]

he's missed 13 games in 2 years and wants too much money.

That Guy 03-22-2006 12:08 PM

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how old is that list, i already see about 8 guys that are signed on it, and it didn't mention who's franchise tagged and restricted on that list.

jordanz301 03-22-2006 02:59 PM

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nate clements or roderick hood really cheap good nickel corner...especially clements

onebum 03-22-2006 03:21 PM

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jordZ, i agree completely about clements...he could be VERY GOOD for us in my opinion.

I don't want Ty Law or Woodson. Big names, but we don't need either.

Woodson is a top CB, but we don't need a number 1, and we really don't need to pay for a number 1, lol. Springs is solid, and Rodgers should be one of the better number 2 corners starting this year.

Law picks up more penalties than anything these days, and I don't really see a need for him. He'd be 3, and he isn't the type of player to be the nickel. I'd rather see a young guy that can be a 3 now, and grow to be a solid starter in a few years.

How bout the draft? There are plenty of prospects that will be available to us. They won't be ready to start right away, but we don't need someone to come in and be our number one as a rook.

Just my thoughts on our corner situation...as for our deep secondary, the Safties...well, I think our starting two will get by. Considering our starting two hit like linebackers, run like corners, and they make the Boogie Man look under his bed at night, well, i think we are ok in the safety area.

That Guy 03-22-2006 03:46 PM

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come on guys (and possibly, gal).

clements aint coming here either, he's franchised and not being released. he's also a #1 CB. no #1 CB is going to come here to play nickel, especially when franchised.

how about an updated list that clearly shows who's franchised and restricted (and the compensation that'd be owed) and that doesn't list 12 guys that aren't even free agents anymore.

onebum 03-22-2006 03:55 PM

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[quote=That Guy]come on guys (and possibly, gal).

clements aint coming here either, he's franchised and not being released. he's also a #1 CB. no #1 CB is going to come here to play nickel, especially when franchised.

how about an updated list that clearly shows who's franchised and restricted (and the compensation that'd be owed) and that doesn't list 12 guys that aren't even free agents anymore.[/quote]


sorry, I wasn't aware Clements is tagged. As for the other thing, I don't think he's a #1 corner. There's been plenty of hype around him, but I didn't think he was that good...of course hype means money, so regaurless of skill he'll be getting #1 money.

So, basically, you are correct and I agree, because even if he isn't a #1 talent, he'll get #1 money, and we don't need to pay big for a CB we don't need, we need to pay low for future ability and promise that can fill depth needs right now.

That Guy 03-22-2006 04:14 PM

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[CODE]Player FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. 2005 Team
Ty Law Releasd 5-11 200 11 NY Jets
Charles Woodson UFA 6-1 200 8 Raiders
Nate Clements UFA 6-0 209 5 Bills
Ike Taylor RFA 6-1 191 3 Steelers
Deion Sanders UFA 6-1 198 14 Ravens

DeJuan Groce RFA 5-10 192 3 Rams
Roderick Hood RFA 5-11 196 3 Eagles
Chris Johnson RFA 5-11 198 3 Rams
Dyshod Carter RFA 5-10 194 3 Cardinals
Ricky Manning Jr. RFA 5-8 185 3 Panthers
Donald Strickland RFA 5-10 187 3 Colts
Frank Walker RFA 5-10 198 3 NY Giants
Lamont Brightful RFA 5-10 160 4 NY Giants

Jerry Azumah UFA 5-10 192 7 Bears
Rashad Bauman UFA 5-8 184 4 Bengals
Tony Beckham UFA 6-1 195 4 Titans
Ralph Brown UFA 5-10 185 5 Vikings
Chris Cash UFA 5-10 185 4 Falcons
Terry Fair UFA 5-10 191 8 Rams
Jamar Fletcher UFA 5-10 186 5 Chargers
Ken Irvin UFA 5-11 186 11 Vikings
Corey Ivy UFA 5-9 188 4 Rams
Ray Mickens UFA 5-8 180 10 Browns
Willie Middlebrooks UFA 6-1 200 5 Broncos
Hank Poteat UFA 5-10 192 4 Patriots
Chad Scott UFA 6-1 202 9 Patriots
Kiwaukee Thomas UFA 5-11 192 6 Dolphins
Lenny Walls UFA 6-4 195 4 Broncos
Raymond Walls UFA 5-10 189 5 Cardinals
Dewayne Washington UFA 5-11 195 12 Chiefs
Kenny Wright UFA 6-1 207 7 Jaguars

Ahmed Plummer Releasd 5-11 191 6 49ers
Reggie Howard Releasd 6-0 185 6 Dolphins
Michael Lehan Releasd 6-0 190 3 Browns
Dexter McCleon Releasd 5-10 195 9 Chiefs
Duane Starks Releasd 5-10 174 8 Patriots
Denard Walker Releasd 6-1 190 9 Raiders
Eric Warfield Releasd 6-0 200 8 Chiefs
Willie Williams Releasd 5-9 194 13 Steelers
Andre Dyson Releasd 5-10 183 5 Seahawks[/CODE]

here's a better list from ESPN's free agency tracker, but its still flawed, a few of these guys may already be signed, the RFA rounds aren't shown and clements should be listed as a FFA. If anyone wants to do some homework i can update this so its not wrong.

the first group is clear #1s and guys that'd cost too much to get... and deion.

That Guy 03-22-2006 04:16 PM

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[quote=onebum]sorry, I wasn't aware Clements is tagged. As for the other thing, I don't think he's a #1 corner. There's been plenty of hype around him, but I didn't think he was that good...of course hype means money, so regaurless of skill he'll be getting #1 money.

So, basically, you are correct and I agree, because even if he isn't a #1 talent, he'll get #1 money, and we don't need to pay big for a CB we don't need, we need to pay low for future ability and promise that can fill depth needs right now.[/quote]

he'd be #1 on at least 5 teams, therefore he's a #1 corner. he had 99 tackles, 2 ints and 11 PD last year.

onebum 03-22-2006 04:48 PM

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[quote=That Guy]he'd be #1 on at least 5 teams, therefore he's a #1 corner. he had 99 tackles, 2 ints and 11 PD last year.[/quote]


ok i guess, but I said that I don't think he's a number 1 corner.

His stats and your 5 teams doesn't change my opinion. I don't think he takes away his part of the field, I don't think he is on the top shelf of CBs, and I don't think he's a top CB. U may think so, no big deal that we disagree on this.

I don't think he's a #1 corner because I don't think he's a number 1 corner. A statline and your 5 teams doesn't mean I think he's a top CB, so my opinion remains.
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I'm not going to debate this anymore, not because i'm irratated or anything, I'm just not going to debate a non-skins player and if i think he's a top CB. You are speaking in certainty as if there is a list with no question, and I'm speaking of my opinion...this started with my opinion. Apparently my opinion is wrong because of his stats and your 5 teams, but it remains my opinion. Therefore I don't think he's a top CB.

That Guy 03-22-2006 05:03 PM

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[quote=onebum]ok i guess, but I said that I don't think he's a number 1 corner.

His stats and your 5 teams doesn't change my opinion. I don't think he takes away his part of the field, I don't think he is on the top shelf of CBs, and I don't think he's a top CB. U may think so, no big deal that we disagree on this.

I don't think he's a #1 corner because I don't think he's a number 1 corner. A statline and your 5 teams doesn't mean I think he's a top CB, so my opinion remains.
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I'm not going to debate this anymore, not because i'm irratated or anything, I'm just not going to debate a non-skins player and if i think he's a top CB. You are speaking in certainty as if there is a list with no question, and I'm speaking of my opinion...this started with my opinion. Apparently my opinion is wrong because of his stats and your 5 teams, but it remains my opinion. Therefore I don't think he's a top CB.[/quote]

so a guy that is the #1 corner on his team and would be #1 for at least 5-10 other teams isn't a #1 corner (even when in fact he really is)?

I speak with certainty because when you look at the bills depth chart, he's their #1 corner. you may not think he's a shutdown corner, but how many of those really exit in the league? maybe 5? being elite and being top 32 are two different things, but i'd like to see you're list where he ranks #33 or below in NFL CBs.

jordanz301 03-22-2006 05:25 PM

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no need to get argue or show emotion, bottom line is clements is a good corner but in onebum's opinion is overrated. i didnt know he was a restricted free agent so theres no way hes comming ot play nickel. he is a good corner and my mistake for not doing my hw........

Arrows over NFC East 03-22-2006 05:59 PM

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I didnt know that Ahmed Plummer got released if we got him he would be a nasty nickel corner but, probably wouldn't want to be a nickelback or wants to much money but damn the 49ers are gettin rid of all there key players.

That Guy 03-22-2006 06:05 PM

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[quote=Arrows over NFC East]I didnt know that Ahmed Plummer got released if we got him he would be a nasty nickel corner but, probably wouldn't want to be a nickelback or wants to much money but damn the 49ers are gettin rid of all there key players.[/quote]

yeah, he might be more of a safety than a CB. he kinda struggled there.

dmek25 03-22-2006 06:12 PM

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what about the kid from the rams the skins were interested in a couple of seasons ago?

jermus22 03-22-2006 06:29 PM

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Demetrius Butler? I doubt he's available now.

That Guy 03-22-2006 06:52 PM

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yeah butlers not available this year.

and the ravens also just signed corey ivy, so he's off the list as well.

Arrows over NFC East 03-22-2006 09:05 PM

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[quote=That Guy]yeah, he might be more of a safety than a CB. he kinda struggled there.[/quote]


Dude can play when he's healthy he's just been injured the last 2 seasons. He's a solid DB.

That Guy 03-22-2006 10:42 PM

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[quote=Arrows over NFC East]Dude can play when he's healthy he's just been injured the last 2 seasons. He's a solid DB.[/quote]

i wouldn't know, i don't catch many 9ers games.

EternalEnigma21 03-23-2006 10:07 AM

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I guess that leaves Prime Time. I'd love to see him back here donning the Burgundy and Gold again!:vomit:

SKINFANFOLIFE 03-23-2006 06:34 PM

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andre dyson is the best value.[/quote]

I know we've been mentioned in rumor talks with him, but has anybody got any info on him or if we are even gonna pursue him.

That Guy 03-23-2006 07:06 PM

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[quote=SKINFANFOLIFE]andre dyson is the best value.[/quote]
I know we've been mentioned in rumor talks with him, but has anybody got any info on him or if we are even gonna pursue him.[/quote]

one person sayss espn rumormill or pft had a rumor about it a while ago, but i haven't seen any mention from a reliable source, so no, there probably hasn't been any move to get him.

as for info on him, he's fast, he has good hands, and he had a lot of injury problems last year. he's a #2 in terms of talent when healthy.

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