DVOA Statistics
 

On the recent Bledsoe versus Brunell thread, I remarked that, in my opinion, conventional football statistics were almost worthless. The remark touched off a contentious debate which I have no desire to continue. But, since this forum is the place for knowledgeable fans, I thought some of you might be interested in visiting the DVOA website if you haven't already.

DVOA is a work-in-progress. I'm not convinced that their statistics are much more accurate than the conventional at this point; but I am sold that their approach is more intelligent.

By the way, they have Brunell ranked 12th and Bledsoe 14th.

DVOA can be found [URL="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/methods.php"]here.[/URL]

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No offense, but I can tell this thread is going nowhere fast.

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its still a well known stat available to the public. better to lock this thread now ;)

footballoutsiders is a great site btw.

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well,do stats mean anything or only certain stats?:)

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when i pointed out you could filter things out i believe one Mr Huddle told me it was "impossible" multiple times - even though anyone with a high school degree has already done some basic work with multiple equations and multiple unknowns.

Apparently I was wrong for suggesting such a thing in that thread, but somehow Huddle is right when he suggests it. Very odd, and very convenient.

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Here we go....

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Two stats threads in one week??

:banghead:

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Yes!!! Just like in high school, FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! Hurry get it going before the mods get here!!

Aw! Crap too late, Hi Matty!!

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[quote=12thMan]No offense, but I can tell this thread is going nowhere fast.[/quote]

No offense taken.

This thread was intended only for those members who don't already know it all and welcome the opportunity to increase their understanding of the game. I'm sure there are a few.

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[quote=Huddle]No offense taken.

This thread was intended only for those members who don't already know it all and welcome the opportunity to increase their understanding of the game. I'm sure there are a few.[/quote]

coming from you that's not only highly ironic, but hilarious!

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[quote=That Guy]coming from you that's not only highly ironic, but hilarious![/quote]

My sentiments exactly.

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[quote=dmek25]well,do stats mean anything or only certain stats?:)[/quote]

Some stats are valuable, some are worthless.

A statistic is a measurement of something. So, the question is: What are you trying to measure? And...does the stat actually give you an accurate measurement?

Regardless of your math aptitude, browsing the DVOA website on the link I provided will give you a better understanding of the problems involved.

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I would just like to repeat that footballoutsiders (where this article is from) is a real quality site. Definately worth checking out.

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[quote=Huddle]No offense taken.

This thread was intended only for those members who don't already know it all and welcome the opportunity to increase their understanding of the game. I'm sure there are a few.[/quote]

It's hard to read this post coming from you and still keep a straight face. You just spent an entire thread refusing to listen to the points others made, maintaining a completely closed mind.

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thatguy,why do i get the feeling you are biting your tongue?

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[quote=Huddle]Some stats are valuable, some are worthless.[/quote]

Funny, I just spent a good deal of the Brunell vs Bledsoe debate basically stating this, but apparently you were doing a little of your selective reading.

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[quote=dmek25]thatguy,why do i get the feeling you are biting your tongue?[/quote]

He shouldn't be biting his tongue, he should be lambasting this moron.

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87% of all statistics...are made up.

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schneed i think he wants to but is trying to be the "grownup" in this situation

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there is either 2 ways to look at stats,one like they are the holy grail that you never stray from.and two,that stats dont tell the story.its almost impossible to have your cake and eat it,too.you cant use some stats and disregard others,it just doesnt work

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[quote=Schneed10]He shouldn't be biting his tongue, he should be lambasting this moron.[/quote]

If my position was dumb and you won our debate as you claim, why are you angry with me?

The mere fact that you are calling me a moron is tacit evidence that you got your ass whipped and you know it.

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[quote=Huddle]If my position was dumb and you won our debate as you claim, why are you angry with me?

The mere fact that you are calling me a moron is tacit evidence that you got your ass whipped and you know it.[/quote]

Oh boy.....here we go....

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Both fighters to yer corners!
lol

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[quote=Huddle]If my position was dumb and you won our debate as you claim, why are you angry with me?

The mere fact that you are calling me a moron is tacit evidence that you got your ass whipped and you know it.[/quote]

Would you go so far as to say PWNED?

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[quote=Huddle]If my position was dumb and you won our debate as you claim, why are you angry with me?

The mere fact that you are calling me a moron is tacit evidence that you got your ass whipped and you know it.[/quote]

Are you a joisey boy on the warpath?

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[quote=Mattyk72]Two stats threads in one week??

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Yes, but this is a temporary blip which only raises the monthly average to .0027

I don't see this as becoming another Lavar thread problem.

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another worthless thread down the drain