Payback: Seahawks signed Burlseson from Vikes
 

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Oh man what a great tactic! wtf why didnt dannyboy think of this first?

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Wow. We are witnessing the beginnings of a real viscious rivalry here! Do they play each other next season?

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I say new Vikings owner Zygi "triangle of authority" Wilf is going to tank his team. First losing Culpepper and this.

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[quote=Master4Caster]I say new Vikings owner Zygi "triangle of authority" Wilf is going to tank his team. First losing Culpepper and this.[/quote]

not standing in the way of the randy moss trade didn't help either. He said he wanted to keep him, but obviously he wasn't loud enough.

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[quote=That Guy]not standing in the way of the randy moss trade didn't help either. He said he wanted to keep him, but obviously he wasn't loud enough.[/quote]

He didn't officially own the team when moss was traded.

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[quote=GTripp0012]He didn't officially own the team when moss was traded.[/quote]

I know, but as the buyer he definately had an ear to talk to. He could have offered a couple million more if randy was on the roster or whatnot.

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the only think stupider (yeah, its a made up word, what you gonna do?) than signing julian peterson at 8$mill a year is signing burleson at 7$mill a year.

i have NO idea what they're thinking, but they could have gotten peterson and burleson for less and also gotten good players earlier on if they didn't wait so long to start making calls.

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wow, talk about overpaying for a player, the media would have a freaking field day if the Skins were the one signing Burleson

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i agree. No way Nate Burleson is worth 49 million. Who'd you rather have, Nate Burleson or Steve Hutchinson? Like Matty said, if this was the redskins, every media outlet would be talking about how they overpaid, but since it's not, it goes virtually unmentioned.

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I like Burleson. I think we paid a lot for a #2 receiver also.

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Do any of you guys get the feeling that most of us if not every single Warpath member could be the GM of an NFL team? I mean this is some seriously difficult strategy to comprehend. The good thing is that this would never play out against us, because our great owner would up the ante to very very angry money levels. Sounds like a junior high turf war?

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[quote=STPainmaker]I like Burleson. I think we paid a lot for a #2 receiver also.[/quote]

30mill or 49mill though... there's such a huge difference there.

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[quote=That Guy]30mill or 49mill though... there's such a huge difference there.[/quote]

True. But how much will he actually see of that 49 million. I'm not sure of all the details of the contract.

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I can't see those contract conditions being allowed if the Vikings were to contest this. If they are allowed, then it would drastically change how the restricted free agent system works. Whenever one team wanted to sign another team's player, they could simply put a fat bonus into the contract that is triggered if the player plays a certain number of games in a certain state. No team would ever be able to match an offer sheet. I think those poison pills are more of an "f-you" tactic than anything else. Seattle is probably betting that the sheer size of the contract is enough to scare away the Vikings.

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I have to tell you this is playing hard ball!!! This is something that most around the NFL would have guessed Redskins or Cowboys ownership would have come up with! Not so!!! The Vikings and Hawks may have open up a can of worms that will have many around the NFL taking a hard look at come the next free agent time. My guess this will be taken care of before then. Still it takes balls to do what both teams did! Vikings made a big mistake by offering the lowest-level tender to thier WR and made it only a 3rd rounder if he was signed. This is going to be something all teams will look at before picking a tender level on RFA! That is unless with the new contract has changed the way these things are done. Like I said both have real balls and will anyone say both teams over spend?

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[QUOTE=DCopper04]I can't see those contract conditions being allowed if the Vikings were to contest this. If they are allowed, then it would drastically change how the restricted free agent system works. Whenever one team wanted to sign another team's player, they could simply put a fat bonus into the contract that is triggered if the player plays a certain number of games in a certain state. No team would ever be able to match an offer sheet. I think those poison pills are more of an "f-you" tactic than anything else. Seattle is probably betting that the sheer size of the contract is enough to scare away the Vikings.[/QUOTE]

It will and has been with what the Vikings did with the Hutchinson deal! That oked it this week. The Hawks put more salt in the wound yes and yes it was a big F-you! This kind of thing has open all kinds of doors! So will the Owners try to make changes to stop this kind of war? You know the players will not and must love this!!!

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man,you want to talk about overpaying?burleson is a fine player,but we actually over payed alittle but 49 million,wow

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If we had signed Lloyd to an offer sheet, the 49ers could have matched, but we wouldn't have had to give up a third. He's probably gonna get a large deal anyway, so I don't know why we just didn't give him one comparable to the deal the Hawks gave Burleson.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012]If we had signed Lloyd to an offer sheet, the 49ers could have matched, but we wouldn't have had to give up a third. He's probably gonna get a large deal anyway, so I don't know why we just didn't give him one comparable to the deal the Hawks gave Burleson.[/QUOTE]

IF the Redskins Has did what the Vikings or Hawks did man you would have never heard the end of it! Danny would have been the Bonds of the NFL! But nothing will be said about the hot war going on between the Hawks and Vikings. Both teams will be given a pass and the owners will never a word about what they are doing!

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[quote=GTripp0012]If we had signed Lloyd to an offer sheet, the 49ers could have matched, but we wouldn't have had to give up a third. He's probably gonna get a large deal anyway, so I don't know why we just didn't give him one comparable to the deal the Hawks gave Burleson.[/quote]

cause then we'd have to give the 49ers a 1st rounder, which we don't have, so we couldn't have made a deal in the first place.

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[quote=dmek25]man,you want to talk about overpaying?burleson is a fine player,but we actually over payed alittle but 49 million,wow[/quote]

I am guessing that the contract is back loaded. The 49 million number was used in spite. Also, only 5.25 is guaranteed which is really what matters. They could drop him after a year or two and it wouldn't hurt that bad.

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Oh man what a great tactic! wtf why didnt dannyboy think of this first?[/quote]

He did. We signed all the people that the Bears wanted. :)

It's called keep-away.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]He did. We signed all the people that the Bears wanted. :)

It's called keep-away.[/quote]

There were no poison pills in those deals.

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Well, if that really is the case. Good for the Seahawks. Let your pride and egos get in the way of what's good for your team.

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[quote=STPainmaker]True. But how much will he actually see of that 49 million. I'm not sure of all the details of the contract.[/quote]

In reality it is a 4 year $14.4m contract with $3.5m signing bonus. The last three years are just dummy years to make the guaranteed contract too unwieldy to match.

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[quote=That Guy]cause then we'd have to give the 49ers a 1st rounder, which we don't have, so we couldn't have made a deal in the first place.[/quote]
Good point.

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Wait how does anyone consider this payback. First the Vikings take away half of the reason that the Seahawks were so effective running left then the Seahawks overpay a reciever the Vikings didn't want anymore. If anything the Vikings just hit the Seahawks with a nice one-two punch

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[quote=Dirtbag359]Wait how does anyone consider this payback. First the Vikings take away half of the reason that the Seahawks were so effective running left then the Seahawks overpay a reciever the Vikings didn't want anymore. If anything the Vikings just hit the Seahawks with a nice one-two punch[/quote]

Yeah, but ya know, at least the Hawks proved that they won't be outdicked by anyone.

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[quote=Dirtbag359]Wait how does anyone consider this payback. First the Vikings take away half of the reason that the Seahawks were so effective running left then the Seahawks overpay a reciever the Vikings didn't want anymore. If anything the Vikings just hit the Seahawks with a nice one-two punch[/quote]

They didn't overpay and it was the Vikings #1 guy. You don't think that hurt them? Now they are a K-Rob cocktail away from Marcus Robinson being the go to guy.