Sean Taylor
 

Who besides me is happy to hear that Sean Taylor has shown up for voluntary workouts. This lets me know that he is serious about bringing the ruckus again for the 2006-07 season. Along side Adam Arch, we should make JACKED UP!!! every week.


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***We dont know the status about the case but it is still good to see him here so far.

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I am ecstatic to see my main man grow up a little. If he matures this guy come become the best safety to play the game. I'm so exciting about the new season with the additions minus the subtractions that we have made for the better of team.

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washinton post muckeds up again!

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Well after watching the Redskins/Cowboys clip for the 50th time today, I'm boosted that Sean Taylor is at the workouts. I'm sure he may take a trip to Miami to work out with those guys for a while if he has time with court and all. He and Archulleta working out and creating a bond early only says good things for a guy that a lot of people label as a head case. I think he's one of the best if not the best safety in the NFL today. He's a sure tackler who I think is getting ready to take more of a leadership role on this defense. He's sure to be "THE" highest paid safety in league history if he stays out of trouble this season.

Time to get a #21 jersey !!!!

HAIL !!!!!!!!

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I dont even want to talk about the punk post. We're going to represent this thread for my boy "the reaper"!!!

I say he makes at [U]least [/U] 5 Jacked ups.
2 Dallas
2 Giants
1 Philly

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That's cool that he's there. Now if he can beat these charges, then play more disciplined in coverage, we need to re-up on his contract. I wish J. Peterson hadn't signed that ridiculous 18.5 ml bonus deal. ST deserves more than him, he's a game changer.

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[quote=3rd ID SOLDIER]washinton post muckeds up again![/quote]

Its just Wilbon trying to cause a ruckus as usual....

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]I am ecstatic to see my main man grow up a little. If he matures this guy come become the best safety to play the game. I'm so exciting about the new season with the additions minus the subtractions that we have made for the better of team.[/quote]

He could become the best safety to ever play the game, but Ronnie Lott will be hard to beat. Even on a team known for finesse, he was probably the greatest player to epitomize what an nfl warrior should be.

I know that there's a saying that you shouldn't live up to someone else's greatness and only live by defining your own greatness, but Sean Taylor can learn by Ronnie Lott's example and his attitude - especially about respect. Nothing signifies Lott more than getting his pinky finger cut off so he wouldn't miss any playing time. If Sean Taylor can learn to have this kind of attitude - he will no doubt be an all-time great (considering his current skills and ability). But Lott's attitude will be hard to come close to - by anyone.

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I think making it to the playoffs did a lot for the team. Guys like ST see that hard work pays off, so he wants to get better in order to make it to the SB next. I'm not gonna be mad if ST comes back even better than he was his past two seasons.

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I thought ST was already at ProBowl level last year but got beaten out by the more sexy pick (Roy Williams). ST has a rep as a "dirty" player now (especially after the spitting incident) and he's got to change that a little. He has the chance and the talent to become one of the greatest. This is a guy that stands out amongst the worlds best atheletes. He's bigger, faster, and hits harder than...everybody. Man, I can't wait.

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I'm glad to hear he's attending, maybe he'll improve enough to be called elite this year. I guess the post article about him not attending was false.

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How long though before we hear about him wanting a new contract again? If he does i think we need to lock him up for a long time and not let him walk off into free agency when that happens. Just my opinion.

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after this year probably with 3 seasons under belt maybe there's a clause on his contract to revoque the final year like it usually is with rookies contracts.
He's going to ask for a lot espacially after looking at archuletas contract.

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[quote=D'BOYZ]after this year probably with 3 seasons under belt maybe there's a clause on his contract to revoque the final year like it usually is with rookies contracts.
He's going to ask for a lot espacially after looking at archuletas contract.[/quote]

I remember hearing at one point in time that he has something like an opt out. I don't know too much about it though.

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[quote=redsk1]I thought ST was already at ProBowl level last year but got [B][U]beaten out by the more sexy pick (Roy Williams)[/U][/B]. ST has a rep as a "dirty" player now (especially after the spitting incident) and he's got to change that a little. He has the chance and the talent to become one of the greatest. This is a guy that stands out amongst the worlds best atheletes. He's bigger, faster, and hits harder than...everybody. Man, I can't wait.[/quote]

i'll buy that he's got a bad rep but Roy Williams isn't exactly a great rep himself. They make a rule because of him(horsecollar) and if Wash @ Dallas wasn't enough to make Roy never deserve another pro bowl i don't know what is. And when people are talking about elite safeties what about Rodney Harrison? He and the pats D destroyed the greatest show on turf, and def deserves mention. If ST can look at R Har, maybe we won't have to cut 1/2 the team to keep him. I don't know R Har's contract but i know the pats can't afford to overpay anyone

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[quote=redsk1]I thought ST was already at ProBowl level last year but got beaten out by the more sexy pick (Roy Williams). ST has a rep as a "dirty" player now (especially after the spitting incident) and he's got to change that a little. He has the chance and the talent to become one of the greatest. This is a guy that stands out amongst the worlds best atheletes. He's bigger, faster, and hits harder than...everybody. Man, I can't wait.[/quote]

I like the "dirty" player persona. That is why he is feared.

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[quote=D'BOYZ]after this year probably with 3 seasons under belt maybe there's a clause on his contract to revoque the final year like it usually is with rookies contracts.
He's going to ask for a lot espacially after looking at archuletas contract.[/quote]

He deserves a lot and will get it. They broke the mold on him.

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I see that Archuletas contract is for like $30 mill and Seans is for $17 mill, but isnt the only guaranteed money in any contract is the signing bounus? If thats the case, then ST is getting like $11 mill, as opposed to AA's $6 mill guaranteed.

I agree that ST needs his contract re-done, and we need to lock him up long term, truely make him a Redskin 4-LIFE!!!

He just needs to be tought its "REDSKINS LIFE", not "THUG LIFE"!!!

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[quote=Redskins8588]I see that Archuletas contract is for like $30 mill and Seans is for $17 mill, but isnt the only guaranteed money in any contract is the signing bounus? If thats the case, then ST is getting like $11 mill, as opposed to AA's $6 mill guaranteed.

I agree that ST needs his contract re-done, and we need to lock him up long term, truely make him a Redskin 4-LIFE!!!

He just needs to be tought its "REDSKINS LIFE", not "THUG LIFE"!!![/quote]

Signing boni is the only thing guarenteed on signing, yes. But roster bonuses due before the start of the season are generally considered guarenteed by the media.

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rodney harrison is probably the closest thing to ST... that fear thing really seems to help in coverage... that and shoving elbows into people's necks on special teams plays ;).

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012]Signing boni is the only thing guarenteed on signing, yes. But roster bonuses due before the start of the season are generally considered guarenteed by the media.[/QUOTE]
Ok, even with roster bounuses included, ST is around $13.045million. Where AA is at $6million. So ST is guaranteed twice as much as AA. These numbers come from our cap sheets on the home page...

Like I said we need to get ST shored up fo sho!!!

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[quote=Redskins8588]Ok, even with roster bounuses included, ST is around $13.045million. Where AA is at $6million. So ST is guaranteed twice as much as AA. These numbers come from our cap sheets on the home page...

Like I said we need to get ST shored up fo sho!!![/quote]

After this season, get him and marshall and salevea wrapped up long term.

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ST makes pro bowl, ST inherits $9million, ST happy.

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[quote=Redskins8588]Ok, even with roster bounuses included, ST is around $13.045million. Where AA is at $6million. So ST is guaranteed twice as much as AA. These numbers come from our cap sheets on the home page...

Like I said we need to get ST shored up fo sho!!![/quote]

I don't know the details & haven't looked at those #s, but as I recall ST wanted to renegotiate because he signed an incentive laden deal (not a lot of guaranteed $) & many around the league commented on what a "bad" deal it was, especially Kellen Winslow Sr. & the postons, who referred to it because Jr. was picked right after ST by the browns

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[QUOTE=freddyg12]I don't know the details & haven't looked at those #s, but as I recall ST wanted to renegotiate because he signed an incentive laden deal (not a lot of guaranteed $) & many around the league commented on what a "bad" deal it was, especially Kellen Winslow Sr. & the postons, who referred to it because Jr. was picked right after ST by the browns[/QUOTE]
It is incentive laden due to the fact that if he makes the Pro-Bowl he gets $9mill, but that incentive or one like it is in just about any rookie contract. He is still guaranteed $13+mill just because of his signing bonus, then he gets what ever his salary is for that year also. If you look at the cap sheets, Taylor's cap salary is $4.73mill for this year, howeve his base salary is $425k. His signing bounus is $2.095mill and his other bounus is $2.210mill. Which comprises his total salary, so this year alone ST is almost going to make what AA is guaranteed...

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I may not be right here, but I also think that he wanted to renegotiate his contract because $13mill isnt really that much for a #5 overall draft pick as far as guaranteed $$ goes...

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who is taylors agent?

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I am not 100%, but I think that it is DREW ROSENHAUS (sp)

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Well, I know Rosenhaus isn't exactly a popular figure as of late, but he's always gotten really good deals done with the skins.

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maybe if mr taylor would have joined off season workouts last season he wouldnt be in the legal mess he is in right now

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We need to lock ST in for the length of his career. Some may not agree but I like the fact that he has a "Dirty Player" persona.

Now, I dont agree with him spitting in someones face but players now know that you dont f*ck with "the reaper".

I want players to FEAR going to his side of the field. Every month that we dont hear about him in new legal problems is good for the Skins

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What webiste has the shirt that says "Free Sean Taylor", and then it says DC sports on the back?

Thanks

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[quote=Texanskin]Who besides me is happy to hear that Sean Taylor has shown up for voluntary workouts. This lets me know that he is serious about bringing the ruckus again for the 2006-07 season. Along side Adam Arch, we should make JACKED UP!!! every week.


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***We dont know the status about the case but it is still good to see him here so far.[/quote]


Guaranteed, a lot of players were closely watching that development. It's big stuff to have ST report (especially with his legal probs pending). HUGE for the team unity!!!!!!!!! Gonna be a great year!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=Texanskin]We need to lock ST in for the length of his career. Some may not agree but I like the fact that he has a "Dirty Player" persona.

Now, I dont agree with him spitting in someones face but players now know that you dont f*ck with "the reaper".

I want players to FEAR going to his side of the field. Every month that we dont hear about him in new legal problems is good for the Skins[/quote]

I like the fact that receivers and running backs fear him (which makes them timid), but being dirty and being intimidating are 2 different things in my book. I don't respect dirty players and there may be an argument that it helps the team, but that's not the kind of help that I would want.

The best example of being dirty was Romanowski, who also was accused of spitting. He may have been feared, but I think his behavior helped cause the downfall of the raiders. If I remember it right, his last known incident got him sued after he broke his own teammate's eye socket in a fight during practice. This is what dirty players do. Would you trust a teammate like that ?

I am hoping and expecting Sean Taylor to become the intimidator and not the "dirty player".

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588]

I agree that ST needs his contract re-done, and we need to lock him up long term[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I think Miami DA already has dibs on that...

I guess I'm the only one who is still pissed at Loogie McFourWheeler for his repeated f*ck-ups - both on and off the field. What a gangsta punk!

Oh wait a minute - I'm sorry. He showed up for workouts this year instead of telling Gibbs to eat a fatty. He's obviously turned his life around. No doubt.

Anyone want to take a bet that he screws up again this year?? Can he really help himself??!

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Sorry, I think Miami DA already has dibs on that...

I guess I'm the only one who is still pissed at Loogie McFourWheeler for his repeated f*ck-ups - both on and off the field. What a gangsta punk!

Oh wait a minute - I'm sorry. He showed up for workouts this year instead of telling Gibbs to eat a fatty. He's obviously turned his life around. No doubt.

Anyone want to take a bet that he screws up again this year?? Can he really help himself??![/quote]

He can't help it, he was a product of his environment - his dad's a cop. Seriously though, I personally think he's been one of the best draft picks in gibbs' second coming - probably him and Cooley are neck and neck.

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[quote=warriorzpath]He can't help it, he was a product of his environment - his dad's a cop. Seriously though, I personally think he's been one of the best draft picks in gibbs' second coming - probably him and Cooley are neck and neck.[/quote]

Good point about Taylor and Cooley being the best draft picks. I just wish Taylor would stop doing stupid stuff off (and sometimes on) the field.

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[quote=Twilbert07]I just wish Taylor would stop doing stupid stuff off (and sometimes on) the field.[/quote]

I agree. I hope that all of these things that has happened the past couple of years will hasten his maturity.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Sorry, I think Miami DA already has dibs on that...

I guess I'm the only one who is still pissed at Loogie McFourWheeler for his repeated f*ck-ups - both on and off the field. What a gangsta punk!

Oh wait a minute - I'm sorry. He showed up for workouts this year instead of telling Gibbs to eat a fatty. He's obviously turned his life around. No doubt.

Anyone want to take a bet that he screws up again this year?? Can he really help himself??![/quote]

AJFC, you are not alone. It's going to take more than this for me to be convinced that he's matured from the 14-year-old of last year to a 23-year-old professional this year. He's on the right track, but my memory isn't as short as some others'.

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[quote=dmek25]who is taylors agent?[/quote]

a baseball agent did his contract, and that's why its so oddly incentive laden. He fired drew, hired the basseball guy, did the contract, and then the baseball guy become a GM or something, and he re-hired drew.

I think DREW R wants the new contract more than ST, cause until ST gets a new one, Drew doesn't get paid.