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jdockser 04-09-2006 12:29 PM

No Love from the LOCAL media!
 
Rick Snider of the DC Examiner, said the redskins will finish 9-7 and lose to the Giants in the NFC Championship! He said, we will lose week 2 to the cowboys, giants, and eagles. He also said we would lose to the Rams!!!!! even with arch. His article is under the news tab. What does everyone think of this journalist. Mattyk should you still be setting up Q&A's will this hater?

andy1282 04-09-2006 12:34 PM

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how do you call this "no love from local media"? i think this is a pretty unbiased, realistic and well thought forecast for the season. He picked us to make the nfc championship, for God's sake!

MTK 04-09-2006 12:39 PM

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He seems to be on the safe side of things. I don't think he's being a hater by saying the Skins play some tough teams and having some doubts in all the new guys coming together.

Hell he says they'll get to the NFC Championship game... how is that hating?

heybigstar 04-09-2006 12:51 PM

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nfc championship game after finishing 9-7?

that sounds ludacris to me

SamSneed36 04-09-2006 01:34 PM

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not sure 9-7 gets us in the playoffs. It would be very disappointing to add all that we have this offseason and end with one less win then last year. Im lookin at 12 wins

Big C 04-09-2006 01:54 PM

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9-7 wont get us in playoffs in all likelyhood, and losing to the rams? that would be horrible if it came true

GTripp0012 04-09-2006 02:04 PM

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I'm thinking that if we are gonna get upset, it will be within the division. Divisional games are very tough to win regardless of record and talent level. Espicially in the east this year.

Outside of the division, I predict 9-1.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-09-2006 02:35 PM

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If we can simply duplicate last season's 10-6 record, I will be a happy man. It's hard to win 10 games in a season. It's even harder to win 20 games in 2 consecutive seasons.

My expectations are high, but I'm realistically looking at 10-6 as where we'll likely end up. We do have some tough games and the NFC East is going to be a dogfight.

EXoffender 04-09-2006 03:29 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72]He seems to be on the safe side of things. I don't think he's being a hater by saying the Skins play some tough teams and having some doubts in all the new guys coming together.

Hell he says they'll get to the NFC Championship game... how is that hating?[/quote]We were 5-1 in our division last year and 10-2 in the conference. It's a new age Redskins. We are no longer the teams of the Norvs.

EXoffender 04-09-2006 03:34 PM

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[quote=SamSneed36]not sure 9-7 gets us in the playoffs. It would be very disappointing to add all that we have this offseason and end with one less win then last year. Im lookin at 12 wins[/quote]Exactly. Predicting we lose 3-4 games in our division and one against a conference rival doesn't add up to making the playoffs. Then he has the nerve to say we get to the NFC Championship game and lose? Cash my ballot to get another Q&A.

That Guy 04-09-2006 03:45 PM

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[quote=EXoffender]Exactly. Predicting we lose 3-4 games in our division and one against a conference rival doesn't add up to making the playoffs. Then he has the nerve to say we get to the NFC Championship game and lose? Cash my ballot to get another Q&A.[/quote]

go find one, and please expand on your football credentials while you're at it ;)

MTK 04-09-2006 03:54 PM

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Feel free to dispute his predictions in the Q&A, but to blast the guy and unfairly judge him really isn't cool, especially considering how generous he's been with us. I really take offense to people calling him out.

EXoffender 04-09-2006 03:57 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72]Feel free to dispute his predictions in the Q&A, but to blast the guy and unfairly judge him really isn't cool, especially considering how generous he's been with us. I really take offense to people calling him out.[/quote]What happend to the last one?

That Guy 04-09-2006 04:05 PM

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[quote=EXoffender]What happend to the last one?[/quote]

the last what?

EXoffender 04-09-2006 04:07 PM

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[quote=That Guy]the last what?[/quote]The last Q&A?

Paintrain 04-09-2006 04:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Feel free to dispute his predictions in the Q&A, but to blast the guy and unfairly judge him really isn't cool, especially considering how generous he's been with us. I really take offense to people calling him out.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.. Why do some of us seem to think that local writers are supposed to be the leaders of the Redskins fan club? That's rather [b]Extreme[/b] (pun clearly intended) isn't it? Just because a local writer doesn't think we're going to go 14-2 and roll to the Super Bowl [b][i][u]IN APRIL[/b][/i][/u] doesn't mean he deserves to get ripped.

That Guy 04-09-2006 04:12 PM

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[quote=EXoffender]The last Q&A?[/quote]

you mean with the guy from comcast? it came and went and we'll have more once the draft is done and the season starts up again.

I don't think we've completed a Q&A with snider yet, though one is obviously in progress.

SmootSmack 04-09-2006 04:29 PM

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We're working on our second (of hopefully many) Q & A with Mr. Snider.

Here is the first

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=11068&highlight=snider[/url]

EXoffender 04-09-2006 05:00 PM

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[quote=Paintrain]Agreed.. Why do some of us seem to think that local writers are supposed to be the leaders of the Redskins fan club? That's rather [B]Extreme[/B] (pun clearly intended) isn't it? Just because a local writer doesn't think we're going to go 14-2 and roll to the Super Bowl [B][I][U]IN APRIL[/U][/I][/B] doesn't mean he deserves to get ripped.[/quote]Maybe that explains why they aren't writing for thier own team. The media should know by now it's the diehard fans who buy tickets and memorabilia, and such. And we don't find pessimistic views by journalists who could care less about the team we love ammusing or entertaining. Maybe I should apply for the The Dallas Morning News. I'm sure their fans wouldn't get enough of me.

Paintrain 04-09-2006 05:48 PM

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Maybe that explains why they aren't writing for thier own team. The media should know by now it's the diehard fans who buy tickets and memorabilia, and such. And we don't find pessimistic views by journalists who could care less about the team we love ammusing or entertaining. Maybe I should apply for the The Dallas Morning News. I'm sure their fans wouldn't get enough of me.[/QUOTE]
Why would the media care about who buys tickets or memorabilia? They care about selling papers..

EXoffender 04-09-2006 05:50 PM

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[quote=Paintrain]Why would the media care about who buys tickets or memorabilia? They care about selling papers..[/quote]We buy papers too?

That Guy 04-09-2006 06:35 PM

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controversy sells, and objectivity sells more than blatant bias.

Paintrain 04-09-2006 08:59 PM

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]We buy papers too?[/QUOTE]
Here's the difference..

Rick Snider-Journalist

Larry Michael-Team reporter

Journalists are paid to report news, give opinions, ask and answer questions for the benefit of the greater good..

Team reporters are paid to highlight the positives of the team, celebrate their acheivements and maintain optimism at all turns..

If Michael made the same prediction (9-7, losing to a division rival in the playoffs) he'd be run out of Redskins Park but a reporter has no responsibility or affiliation to the team..

Master4Caster 04-10-2006 12:22 AM

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[quote=jdockser]Rick Snider of the DC Examiner, said the redskins will finish 9-7 and lose to the Giants in the NFC Championship! He said, we will lose week 2 to the cowboys, giants, and eagles. He also said we would lose to the Rams!!!!! even with arch. His article is under the news tab. What does everyone think of this journalist. Mattyk should you still be setting up Q&A's will this hater?[/quote]

It is not a sportswriter's job to suck up to the local team. They should be calling out why they may win or lose and back it up with some well considered insight.

I picked the Skins for 12-4 and the conference championship. If Snider sees 9-7 while pointing out that the NFC East will be tougher than last year, then he can make that point. It's valid. I don't have to agree and neither do you. This is all decided on the the field.

FRPLG 04-10-2006 12:36 AM

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We can't as fans bitch and moan about the unfair reporting the Skins get on a national level and then decry someone for simply offering reasoned, but more negative than we'd like, opinions. It's called hypocrisy. At least this guy makes valid points and seems to report in a balanced way. His job is to be balanced just as it is Pasta's. All we should want is fair journalism from everyone and this guy has shown me that he is more than fair.

On top of that he has taken his free time to offer us insghts we can't get elsewhere. Those who are bemoaning him should look at the big picture and realize what a good guy he is. Rather than get mad why don't you all thank him for helping us out? I hope he never sees this junk and if he does see it I hope he realizes that 99% of us appreciate what he had done for us.

SmootSmack 04-10-2006 12:40 AM

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Well put FRPLG. I personally don't see how we can have the losses Mr. Snider says we'll have and still make the playoffs. But the great thing is we have the chance to ask him to explain his position. And he's not saying something ludicrous like "we continue to rotate our core players" or "major losses like Cory Raymer"

EXoffender 04-10-2006 10:49 AM

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[quote=TAFKAS]Well put FRPLG. I personally don't see how we can have the losses Mr. Snider says we'll have and still make the playoffs..."[/quote]That was my initial point. Then I speculated he threw in the NFC Championship game to put us at bay.

Twilbert07 04-10-2006 10:54 AM

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[quote=EXoffender]We were 5-1 in our division last year and 10-2 in the conference. It's a new age Redskins. We are no longer the teams of the Norvs.[/quote]

Now if we can only beat an AFC team! I know the NFC games are more important for tie-breaketrs, etc., but we need to show the AFC we can compete under Gibbs II.

SmootSmack 04-10-2006 10:57 AM

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]That was my initial point. Then I speculated he threw in the NFC Championship game to put us at bay.[/QUOTE]

But just because we don't agree with him on his prediction that doesn't make him a "bad journalist" or "hater" and we shouldn't just toss aside the great opportunity we have with his Q & A's

EXoffender 04-10-2006 11:09 AM

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[quote=Twilbert07]Now if we can only beat an AFC team! I know the NFC games are more important for tie-breaketrs, etc., but we need to show the AFC we can compete under Gibbs II.[/quote]Yeah. We have to beat only one AFC team. Whoever wins the AFC championship game!

scowan 04-10-2006 11:47 AM

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I would just like to see the Skins go 2-2 against the AFC this year. I read somewhere that they are 0-10 against the AFC in the last 2 1/2 years! Geez, just when we get the division thing figured out (5-1 in '05) we did not beat anyone from the other conference! If they could just go 4-2 in the division and 2-2 against the AFC and then maybe 4-2 against the rest of their NFC opponents or maybe 5-1 then you have them at 10-6 or maybe 11-5, which will make the playoffs and possibly win the division. Just win at home and then beat 3 teams on the road. Here are their road wins, Houston, N.O. and St. Louis! Go undefeated at home and beat these 3 and there you go. If you can't go undeafeated at home, then beat one of our division opponents at their place, and you stil go 10-6 or 11-5. Then start the playoffs with maybe a home game. I like our chances with this senerio!

bedlamVR 04-11-2006 02:25 AM

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In the recent Q&A with Snider he states he is a self admitted Snyder hater and I know the mods on this site are since the Extreme Skins take over but what I still cannot understand is why . Would you prefer the Bidwells or the Glazers here, maybe the Lauries or even good ol JJ. Reporters should report on the news not try and be the news.

SmootSmack 04-11-2006 02:44 AM

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[QUOTE=bedlamVR]In the recent Q&A with Snider he states he is a self admitted Snyder hater and I know the mods on this site are since the Extreme Skins take over but what I still cannot understand is why . Would you prefer the Bidwells or the Glazers here, maybe the Lauries or even good ol JJ. Reporters should report on the news not try and be the news.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure, but are you calling the mods here "Snyder haters"? If so, that's way off base

That Guy 04-11-2006 09:55 AM

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[quote=bedlamVR]In the recent Q&A with Snider he states he is a self admitted Snyder hater and I know the mods on this site are since the Extreme Skins take over but what I still cannot understand is why . Would you prefer the Bidwells or the Glazers here, maybe the Lauries or even good ol JJ. Reporters should report on the news not try and be the news.[/quote]

um, do you even read this site? Snider said he wasn't fond of dan cause when he was ahving a heart attack, LDS was cracking jokes about him. how happy would you be?

that said, a reporter's job is to be objective, and if you could point out where that wasn't the case, i'd love to see it. If you could point out where the mods here are hating on danny, i'd REALLY love to see that too. Please don't toss around accusations unless you have actual proof.

MTK 04-11-2006 10:02 AM

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[quote=bedlamVR]In the recent Q&A with Snider he states he is a self admitted Snyder hater and I know the mods on this site are since the Extreme Skins take over but what I still cannot understand is why . Would you prefer the Bidwells or the Glazers here, maybe the Lauries or even good ol JJ. Reporters should report on the news not try and be the news.[/quote]

You're coming off even more ignorant than some of the "Skins haters" in the media.

skinsgt 04-11-2006 12:00 PM

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Seems to me this guy doesn't know what he is talking about if he has us going 9-7 and getting to the NFC Championship game.

I feel like if we can go 10-6 again that would be great. It is hard to ignore the fact the other teams have gotten better as well and until we actually see our wideouts on the field it will be tough to see how well they play together.

MTK 04-11-2006 12:12 PM

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Don't get hung up on 9-7, I think his basic point is he thinks the Skins face a tough schedule, but once playoff time comes around they'll be peaking and can make some noise.

dmek25 04-11-2006 12:27 PM

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who is rick snider?i dont really care if anyone gives us our props,lets go out and earn them.lets play the underdog role all season long right on up to the super bowl.and anyone in need of positives just has to listen to good old #7 once in a while,he believes


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