Ahmed Brooks in the supplemental draft?
 

I don't watch much UVA football, but at one point Brooks was a highly rated prospect. He's had some off the field issues, and got kicked out of school, and will likely enter the supplemental draft. My question is this, should we consider him? That decision would need to be made before the general draft, and allow us to go somewhere else in round 2. He may not be a Gibbs guy, but I'm sure GW could make him into one hell of a player.

Any thoughts?

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I think he would definatly be worth the risk if we could get him for a 4th or 5th. The man is a beast and with our coaching staff could thrive. He would have been a top 20 pick if he came out as a sophmore.

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I go to UVa, so I have seen Ahmad* Brooks play many times. He is a stud athlete. At LB he is quite fast, and he doesnt fall out of coverage much. He got caught a handful of times for smoking weed, and that the main issue. Some other side issues are that he had alot of "personal" issues, and we are unsure what that meant, but that is what he had. He got kicked off the team by Coach Groh because of his continued violations of team policy. The main questions are his drug problem, and his team probs. I personally think at a really low spot in the supplemental draft, Brooks would be a great pickup, but maybe that is just bc of my personal bias.

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Yes Yes Yes

I go to UVA. Ahmad is a absolute beast. He has a lot of problems with maturity and attitude. And he has been overweight as of late because of Knee problems. But I'm telling you his potential is worth it. In 3 years he will dominate the NFL.

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[quote=skins009]Yes Yes Yes

I go to UVA. Ahmad is a absolute beast. He has a lot of problems with maturity and attitude. And he has been overweight as of late because of Knee problems. But I'm telling you his potential is worth it. In 3 years he will dominate the NFL.[/quote]

What up my fellow Wahoo....where are you at, if your 09 like in your name, are u a first yr dude?

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the decision doesn't need to be made before the draft. supplemental picks go against next year's draft, and he wouldn't be a guy you could depend on to start right away (if ever), so he shouldn't cause any change to this years strategy.

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[quote=That Guy]the decision doesn't need to be made before the draft. supplemental picks go against next year's draft, and he wouldn't be a guy you could depend on to start right away (if ever), so he shouldn't cause any change to this years strategy.[/quote]

I'm saying that if they were planning on taking him, they would alter their draft strategy for it.

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doesnt really sound like a good,character guy to me

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It might be worth the risk. I'm a UVA fan, but Brooks worth ethic has been questioned by many, along w/ his other off field problems. He is very talented though and if he can get his act together would be a steal.

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Brooks is a great athlete, was on his way to being the next collegiate lavar, but then it seemed drama surrounded hime one off season & there was always some question if he would return to uva long before he was kicked off. The uva guys obviously know more about it than I do. As I recall, this guys seems pretty smart doesn't he?
But he's definitely worth a 4th rnd. pick, not higher. Playing for a steady vet coach like gibbs would be good for him & GW would make him play his way or sit em down.

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Have we learned nothing from Maurice Clarrett? If he's not disciplined enough to cut it in college, how in the world would he make it in the NFL, more-less on a Gibbs-coached team? Potential can be either realized or unrealized.....and unrealized potential is about as useless as having one too many towel boys on your team. Actually, it can be even worse when you consider the detrimental effect a bad attitude has on the locker room. Pass.

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sure, there's some risk, but you have to also consider how many players come w/such baggage these days - a lot.
I agree that its an issue w/brooks, but that just means gibbs & co. would need to do a little homework, which they will. If they feel he's smart enough to mature w/the team then he's worth a low rnd pick.

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Well, if Gibbs does the research and takes a shot, I'll trust in his decision and get behind it. For me, though, based on my limited knowledge, I wouldn't waste anything better than a 6th or 7th rounder on him. I'm just trying to think of the last NFL player that succeeded after getting kicked off his college team. Did Laverneous get kicked out of FSU? Can't remember.

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Sometimes the "off the field issues" tend to be overblown. Randy Moss had "issues" coming out of college. So did Fred Smoot. I'm not comparing his abilities with these guys. Other times all the warning signs of 'problem' players turn out true.

If you can get him for practically nothing -- 6th or 7th round pick, or wherever he falls in the supplemental, the risk/reward ratio is much easier to deal with.

If he's there, I say take him.

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I just think there's a big difference between "issues" and getting kicked off of a team. Does anyone really think that Marcus Vick deserves a shot in the NFL? Couldn't you see the inevitable Maurice Clarrett saga coming from a mile away? If Brooks has had problems with everything from discipline to attitude to work ethic in college.......what should we expect in the NFL? College is a picnic compared to the NFL. Maybe I'm just too quick to judge and too reluctant to give someone the benefit of the doubt after they've screwed up.........that's just me.

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Yeah, but comparing Ahmad Brooks to a guy that had sex with underage girls, held up someone at gunpoint and deliberately tried to inflict injury to opposing players might be a little harsh, don't you think?

We don't even know the extent of Brooks' "issues" but he hasn't been criminally charged with anything.

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By the way PSUskinsfan21, check out the "Could Donnie Edwards be a Skin" thread over in the locker room. I posted another response to you there.

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Coles did get kicked off the fsu team I believe.
The best recent example of a guy dropping because of "issues" was W.Sapp. He was a projected top 5 pick in 95, but dropped to 12 because of a positive test for marijuana. Tampa got a steal. That year I wanted us to grab Sapp, our D sucked, but Norv was taken w/a well built wideout from Colorado, think his name was Michael Westbrook but I've tried to erase it from my memory!

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[quote=Beemnseven]Yeah, but comparing Ahmad Brooks to a guy that had sex with underage girls, held up someone at gunpoint and deliberately tried to inflict injury to opposing players might be a little harsh, don't you think?

We don't even know the extent of Brooks' "issues" but he hasn't been criminally charged with anything.[/quote]

actually it didn't sound like there was a gun involved in the mcdonald's incident, hence they dropped the firearm charges.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12]actually it didn't sound like there was a gun involved in the mcdonald's incident, hence they dropped the firearm charges.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. Still, Brooks and Vick aren't even on the same rap sheet.

I wasn't aware of the Warren Sapp thing. I guess Norv and Casserly thought the best way to build the team was to do the same thing they did in Dallas by going for the QB-WR tandem. Sapp could have really helped us out. Oh well.

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id definitely take brooks with a supplemental draft pick, but im sure many other teams are willing to do the same. i was wondering what happened to him

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[quote=Beemnseven]Yeah, but comparing Ahmad Brooks to a guy that had sex with underage girls, held up someone at gunpoint and deliberately tried to inflict injury to opposing players might be a little harsh, don't you think?

We don't even know the extent of Brooks' "issues" but he hasn't been criminally charged with anything.[/quote]

Agreed, I'm not likening him to a criminal. In fact, I have a bigger issue with the character/work ethic/maturity/discipline concerns because those are actually football related. I only mention the others to illustrate the point that to get to the level where a coach is willing to kick you off the team you get to a whole different level of problem players than those who simply have "issues" or "concerns". Of course, it's all conjecture at this point. He could turn out to be great, he could be a bust......either way, I don't like taking chances on guys that can't even cut it on their college team without drawing the ire of the coaches.

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Has their ever been a good pick from the supplemental draft? The last two I remember are Manny Wright the Tackle from USC who cried at training camp last year and Tony Hollings the RB from GT that was so good that the next time the Texans had a 2nd round pick they drafted Vernand Morencey.

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Bernie Kosar...but that was a long, long time ago

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Man heck yess we should get brooks hes da next ray lewis. Dis guy is nuts when he plays on the field.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 trust me he is