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That Guy 04-16-2006 05:45 PM

NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
[B]Redskins | Cromartie scheduled to visit[/B]
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:48:32 -0700

Aaron Wilson, of the Carroll County Times, reports Florida State CB Antonio Cromartie is scheduled to visit with the Washington Redskins.

[B]Redskins | Republicans trying to get D. Green to run for the state Senate[/B]
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:39:39 -0700

The Washington Post reports leading Northern Virginia Republicans are urging former Washington Redskins CB Darrell Green to run for the state Senate from Loudoun County next year. Green lives in Loudoun and has been running a nonprofit foundation since he left the team three years ago. The Republicans are hoping he can use his fame on the football field to oust newly elected Democrat Mark R. Herring.

[B]Cowboys | Team to conduct pre-draft visit with L. White[/B]
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:32:57 -0700

Mac Engel, of the Star-Telegram, reports the Dallas Cowboys will conduct a pre-draft visit with USC RB LenDale White Tuesday, April 18. The Cowboys currently have RBs Julius Jones and Marion Barber III as the team's top two running backs, but the Cowboys have not had a 1,000-yard rusher since RB Emmitt Smith in 2001. There is some concern whether Jones has the durability to be an every-down back.



We've looked at DeMeco Ryans, D'Qwell Jackson, Antonio Cromartie, and Kelly Jennings now, all four of which are on the late 1st/early 2nd round border.

EXoffender 04-16-2006 05:49 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
I hope his workout goes well and the injury hasn't affected him much.

dmek25 04-16-2006 08:19 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
thatguy,in other words its a good chance we will be moving up

That Guy 04-16-2006 09:37 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
or hoping beyond hope someone falls... moving up will cost us our #1 next year in all likelyhood, which doesn't make me all that happy.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 08:23 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
Same here, but it seems like we are just trading away each year's #1 pick to move up to take a #1 anyway.

skinsgt 04-17-2006 08:30 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
It's a good thing I don't live in Loudoun county. It would have been the first time I would have ever voted Republican.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 08:56 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
Wow, politicians never shock me how they sink to new lows. I love DG, but damn, a politician?

Beemnseven 04-17-2006 09:38 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]or hoping beyond hope someone falls... moving up will cost us our #1 next year in all likelyhood, which doesn't make me all that happy.[/QUOTE]

What would our #53 in the second, plus next year's first give us? Would that be a worth a #11-19 pick in this year's first? Or #20-32? I read earlier on that Denver was looking to trade away thier first rounder because of cap difficulties.

Is there anyone the Redskins are [I]that[/I] high on to make such a big move?

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 09:42 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
Oh so Denver doesn't WANT our pick now. Ironic. :)

Beemnseven 04-17-2006 09:47 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Oh so Denver doesn't WANT our pick now. Ironic. :)[/QUOTE]

I don't know. I remember reading that some time ago, long before the trade with Atlanta and the Jets that moved them up to the #15 spot. Now they'll probably use it.

That Guy 04-17-2006 11:03 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
our 1st next year + this years 2nd moves up to the #25-30 spot... not a good value though since you're just passing the buck to next year and only getting two (#1/#2) picks in two years instead of 3.

Monkeydad 04-17-2006 02:47 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
At least Darrell is on the right team...AGAIN. :)

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 02:51 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
This is all I'm going to say about this: there shouldn't have to BE teams.

Beemnseven 04-17-2006 04:32 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]This is all I'm going to say about this: there shouldn't have to BE teams.[/QUOTE]

I know you just said you weren't going to say anything else about it, but, what do you mean by that?

SmootSmack 04-17-2006 04:38 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
TMC means...

Now the children of the world can see
There's a better way for us to be
The place where mankind was born
Is so neglected and torn... torn apart

Every woman, every man
Join the caravan of love (Stand up, stand up, stand up)
Everybody take a stand
Join the caravan of love

...that's right. I'm takin' you old school with some Isley Brothers

HeadHunter21 04-17-2006 05:49 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
I hope Darrell does run for senate. He is one of the biggest hearted people on this planet.

That Guy 04-17-2006 08:17 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
I wouldn't vote for him yet, he's a jerk and i have no idea as to his competence. He has run several successful businesses though.

Darrell_Green_28 04-17-2006 08:28 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
thatguy, How dare you call Darrell Green a jerk. You were what 1 yr old if that when he joined the team anyways. Sorry but that is a mortal sin in my book. calling one of the all time greatest a jerk...

mooby 04-17-2006 08:36 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
if darrell green ran for senate, i'd vote for him, when i turn 18 in a couple months.

hooskins 04-17-2006 11:13 PM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[quote=That Guy]I wouldn't vote for him yet, he's a jerk and i have no idea as to his competence. He has run several successful businesses though.[/quote]

why are u calling DG a jerk.....thats something that I thought would never come out of your mouth ThatGuy.....my world is turned upside down:(..lol

Redskins8588 04-18-2006 12:38 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[QUOTE=hooskins]why are u calling DG a jerk.....thats something that I thought would never come out of your mouth ThatGuy.....my world is turned upside down:(..lol[/QUOTE]
Ask TAFKAS, I believe, about D. Green and see what he says about him....

That Guy 04-18-2006 12:40 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[quote=hooskins]why are u calling DG a jerk.....thats something that I thought would never come out of your mouth ThatGuy.....my world is turned upside down:(..lol[/quote]

do you know how he acts? besides ignoring people outright, and refusing to sign anything (even for kids etc) unless you give him money, while he was on the team, no one was allowed to mention ANY kind of charity by a redskin team member unless green's charities got an equal amount of play time in the same segment.

Ask some of the other people that have met him in off the field, most come away with a pretty bitter taste.

SmootSmack 04-18-2006 12:41 AM

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588]Ask TAFKAS, I believe, about D. Green and see what he says about him....[/QUOTE]

It's not just me. Check out page 2 of this [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=11285"]thread[/URL]

Redskins8588 04-18-2006 12:53 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]It's not just me. Check out page 2 of this [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=11285"]thread[/URL][/QUOTE]
I just remembered your story of trying to get him to do a story or to get an autograph from him and him being a total bung hole...

hooskins 04-18-2006 01:34 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[quote=TAFKAS]

Another time Darrell Green was in our studio and one of my co-workers came in to the studio with his 6-year old grandson and asked Green if he would sign his grandson's football. Darrell said "No, what's in it for me?" So I was there and said "the satisfaction of making a young kid happy" And he actually said "that's not good enough"

It always sucks to meet your hero and find out they're human.[/quote]

I have never met DG, so I didnt know that...wow that is pretty low.

Redskins8588 04-18-2006 01:44 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
Anyhow, back to the matter at hand, did anyone watch NFL Total Access last night? They do this thing called something like "My First Draft" or something like that, well tonight they had on A. Cromartie and he mentioned that he like to trash talk and he said "Unlike Fred Smoot I can back it up!!" He seems pretty confident and I would like to see the skins get him, but not if it means giving up our #1 for next year to do it...

That guy... Where do you see Manny Lawson being taken at? I am sure we are not going to get him but I am interested to see how good he will be with out "Super" Mario with him...

That Guy 04-18-2006 02:17 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for se
 
[quote=Redskins8588]Anyhow, back to the matter at hand, did anyone watch NFL Total Access last night? They do this thing called something like "My First Draft" or something like that, well tonight they had on A. Cromartie and he mentioned that he like to trash talk and he said "Unlike Fred Smoot I can back it up!!" He seems pretty confident and I would like to see the skins get him, but not if it means giving up our #1 for next year to do it...

That guy... Where do you see Manny Lawson being taken at? I am sure we are not going to get him but I am interested to see how good he will be with out "Super" Mario with him...[/quote]

HIGH.. maybe late 1st (20-32), early 2nd... his hype is really up, but honestly, he IS a 6-6 guy that runs a 4.4 at 245lbs with a 40" vert. He'd be best suited to be a DE/OLB in a 3-4 (ie, the browns). If he were in a 4-3 like we run, he'd be amazing in the situational pass rusher role (what chris clemons did before he got hurt). As a normal 4-3 OLB he'd be alright, but it really isn't the best fit.

all 3 of those guys are going in the first 2 rounds (mccargo, mario, manny) and you're right that having them next to each other does make them all look better (same thing as the USC offensive guys), but i do think they're all legit NFL starters.

That Guy 04-18-2006 04:50 AM

Re: NFC East-Cromartie visits skins, L White visits boys, D Green asked to run for senate
 
after looking over the draft for where [B]Manny Lawson[/B] might go... 3-4 teams include the jets (#4, #29), 49ers (#6), browns (#12), cowboys (#18), chargers (#19), patriots (#21), and steelers (#32).

-the browns really need front 7 players (OLB/MLB/DE each have an open spot, and 3 other spots (DE/NT/OLB) are being filled by guys over 33 right now) and would be the best fit (cause he's a tweener, and could end up playing DE, OLB, MLB, or pass rush specialist, and for the browns, it wouldn't matter what he turned out to be, cause they have holes at all those positions.)

He's not worth the #12 pick though, and he probably doesn't make to to pick #43.

-the cowboys, patriots and chargers don't really need him (good front 7). maybe they'd consider it if he feel to the #50s, but he won't.

-the 49ers could use him at OLB/pass rush specialist, and might take him if he falls to #37, but may look to other needs (DB) instead.

-the jets at #29 look like the right value to pick him up. They could use him at either position, but wouldn't be forced into starting him immediately (35 year old DE, average OLB holding the starting spots right now).

-the steelers at #32 would consider it, but mangold, a top 3 WR, L White, or a guy like wimbley/hali falling would probably trump him.



So i'd guess the jets are the most likely at #29 (if they don't take mangold or an RB), followed by browns at #43, the 49ers at #37, and steelers at #32.

I don't see him falling below that #43 spot though... if he's there, it seems like a virtual lock that the browns take him.


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