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Which player(s) had absolutely no business stepping on the field for the 'Skins last year?

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I'll be the first to chip in. In no particular order.

Nic Clemons
Pierson Prioleau
Cory Raymer
Antonio Brown

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]I'll be the first to chip in. In no particular order.

Nic Clemons
Pierson Prioleau
Cory Raymer
Antonio Brown[/QUOTE]

I can't say much about Nic Clemons since he basically never got on the field.
Prioleau actually did pretty well in my mind. Cory Raymer was god awful in pass protection. Antonio Brown shouldn't have been on the field but thank God he was. Without him we probably would have lost to Arizona and possibly been kept out of the playoffs.

I'd add to that list Taylor Jacobs.

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Nic (#90) seemed to play every game. And what a bum he is. Cut the cord Coach Williams!

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Nic (#90) seemed to play every game. And what a bum he is. Cut the cord Coach Williams! One member of their family will still get a check.

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Yeah, I thought Prioleau was a great pickup. He played well at both safety and CB. He absolutely should have been on the field.

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[quote=cpayne5]Yeah, I thought Prioleau was a great pickup. He played well at both safety and CB. He absolutely should have been on the field.[/quote]Maybe you're confusing him with Omar Stoutmire. Pierson made one play all year. Other than that sack, he was not a factor.

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No... Pierson was all over the field last year. he was even our nickle corner when our CB's were injured. He had some problems, but he held his own.

Im going to add John Hall to the list.

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I'd say 3 sacks and a forced fumble along with 38 tackles is halfway decent for a reserve player.

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[quote=EXoffender]Maybe you're confusing him with Omar Stoutmire. Pierson made one play all year. Other than that sack, he was not a factor.[/quote]

I think you're backwards on these two.

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[quote=jamf]No... Pierson was all over the field last year. he was even our nickle corner when our CB's were injured. He had some problems, but he held his own.[/quote]I know when to leave it alone.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]I'd add to that list Taylor Jacobs.[/quote]

Taylor Jacobs was actually on the field last season ? :)

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[quote=724Skinsfan]I think you're backwards on these two.[/quote]Interesting but, sacks don't consider you a better DB. Does it? And for every tackle he had was for how much gain?

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Didn't you know he retrieves the kicking tee after every kickoff?

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Well, no definitely not a stat category I would base my comparisons of two DBs but even looking at the number of tackles shows Prioleau having significantly more impact than Stoutmire.

100th POST! YAY!

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prioleau was also a great special teams player.

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Taylor Jacobs hands down.

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[quote=EXoffender]I know when to leave it alone.[/quote]

Actually when I think I'm on the good side of an argument, I like to make it last as long as I can and milk it a little. :)

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I would have to add Taylor Jacobs to that list. When he finally played he was terrible.

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[quote=EXoffender]I'll be the first to chip in. In no particular order.

Nic Clemons
Pierson Prioleau
Cory Raymer
Antonio Brown[/quote]

Prioleau was a big part of the team while they were fighting injuries. I think that is an example where stats get in the way of how well someone is playing. He knows Williams' system and is in the right spot. This defense is not one where someone is going to put up huge stats over the season but every week the D keeps them in the game.

Brown was like the Nasdaq in the late ninety's but you cannot underestimate his touchdown vs. the Cardinals. Without that, last season was a failure.

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Maybe you're confusing him with Omar Stoutmire. Pierson made one play all year. Other than that sack, he was not a factor.[/QUOTE]
No, I know exactly who I'm referring to. Prioleau exhibited good speed, sound tackling, and good comprehension of William's defensive schemes last year while filling in at both safety and cornerback at various times during the season.

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Prioleau??

Brown was shaky but he did contribute greatly to the win over the Cards.

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At least Stoutmire was a wanted man in the offseason (NO). Will Prioleau make the team this year?

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Prioleau was a big part of the team while they were fighting injuries. I think that is an example where stats get in the way of how well someone is playing. He knows Williams' system and is in the right spot. This defense is not one where someone is going to put up huge stats over the season but every week the D keeps them in the game.

Brown was like the Nasdaq in the late ninety's but you cannot underestimate his touchdown vs. the Cardinals. Without that, last season was a failure.[/quote]

I have to agree with you and some others here with Prioleau and Antonio Brown. I think Prioleau was solid and had his moments and I think Brown was very inconsistent and was a risk to lose the ball, but he has the ability to make big plays.

I wonder what happens to Jacobs ? I haven't heard much about him or from him.

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Didn't Prioleau replace Ohalete? Comapared to him, Prioleau is awesome!

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How about John Hall?

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In the past I would have said Ade, but it seems as if he is developing into a reliable special teamer...he's like that guy on a basketball team that can only play defense, except in his case defense is what he needs to learn.

Other than that I think that everyone had potential and will improve with time. but I also felt that John Hall should have been placed on IR and we had went with the dude from Maryland.

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As much pre-season attention they gave to Jimmy Farris, he didn't do squat during the regular season.

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Taylor Jacobs.

And to give Nic Clemons some props he really was a force when he was in there. Sometimes gave up big runs, but he's on the upswing of his career.

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How about Patrick Ramsey to start the season...he scares the hell out of me when he would drop back because he always made those throws that would leave you wondering why.
You have to admitt that you were more relaxed with Brunell behind center because he would just throw it away if it weren't there and put our defense on the field.

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Honestly, I wasn't relaxed with Brunell until after the Seahawks game. Even those two throws to Moss make me nearly crap my pants.

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Guys, it's obvious who didn't belong on the field at all last season...

Derrick Frost! If he's on the field that means we didn't score on that drive. Stay off the field Frost!

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Guys, it's obvious who didn't belong on the field at all last season...

Derrick Frost! If he's on the field that means we didn't score on that drive. Stay off the field Frost![/QUOTE]
Wasn't he the holder, though? :D

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[quote=cpayne5]Wasn't he the holder, though? :D[/quote]

lol! Yeah, but still...

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Ade is a special teams stud. He's in on every tackle. I take back everything bad I've ever said about Ade.

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Same here. When he was playing in coverage earlier in the year I was a little pissed but he really did get better as the year went on.

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Definitely Warrick "The Trash Can Man" Holdman. Its not just that he was bad (which he was) its that he was on the field instead of Arrington. Now I dont want to turn this into another "We shoulda kept LaVar" thread, because I think it was OK to let him go.

But I'll take LaVar's "boom or bust" potential on every play over Holdman's "bust" any day of the week (especially Sundays).

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TRUE. Totally forgot about him (that's how GREAT he played for us).

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]At least Stoutmire was a wanted man in the offseason (NO). Will Prioleau make the team this year?[/QUOTE]

Yup. Bet money on it. As others have commented, he is solid in defense and on special teams. Maybe he isn't a super star but he is a reliable part time starter (for us) and better than average back up. I felt he was one of our better "under the radar" free agents. He was a starter for some good buffalo defenses and was one of those "1 1/2" Players - (Players who will start for some teams, but are best utilized as a "first of the bench" reserve).

If we cut him, somebody picks him up quickly.

BTW - This year's Prileou will be the CB we got from Jacksonville.

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And, as for who didn't belong -

Taylor "Big Softie" Jacobs, with an honorable mention to Cory Raymer.