Texans | R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick?
 

[B]Texans | R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick?[/B]
Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:38:45 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports there is now legitimate reason, for the first time, to think that USC RB Reggie Bush is not going to be wind up with the Houston Texans, the team that currently holds the No. 1 overall NFL Draft pick. This does not come from one source or from one team. This comes from multiple sources, from across the league, without any agenda to push. As of Monday, April 17, the Texans had not had any contract discussions with Bush and his representatives. When Bush was in Houston, a certain segment of the organization never introduced itself to the running back. The Texans know they have a dependable running back and kick return man, the two spots Bush fills. A person in the Bush camp said Monday, "Do I have a feeling that Reggie is going to Houston? No, I have a feeling that he's not."

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Interesting rumor... if this happens, here's an idea of what the draft might look like:

1. Houston Texans - DE Mario Williams
2. New Orleans Saints - OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson (possibly LB AJ Hawk)
3. Tennessee Titans - QB (probably Leinhart)
4. NY Jets - RB Reggie Bush? (obvious need if D'Br F is gone)

[URL="http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/dbrickashawferguson.html"][/URL]

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houston would look like a horses ass if they dont want bush and dont trade down

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[quote=dmek25]houston would look like a horses ass if they dont want bush and dont trade down[/quote]

they can't though if they want williams. the saints are favored to take him. They can't trade to #2, and they can't trade below #2, so its either take williams at #1 or they can't possibly get him.

the saints wouldn't trade up if bush will be at #2 anyways.

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The Texans have MUCH greater need than a runnning back. The temptation is great to take Reggie, but they are smart to address some of their many pressing needs. It will equate to more wins than Reggie

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Typical smoke blowing just prior to the draft.

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it seems that having a high pick has a tremendous pressure that player would produce I am happy with our 53rd pick

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More and more you hear teams suggest they would rather not "use" the first pick (if they had it) as the cost of contract and monster bonus for an unknown quantity is not very attractive. They would rather trade down for more value and less $$$$$

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You just have to take the best player available when you have that No. 1 pick and Mr. Bush is the best player available. I am with Matty on this....SMOKE!

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[quote=Mattyk72]Typical smoke blowing just prior to the draft.[/quote]

I don't know if that's smoke I'd want to blow though. Doing that would make a trade down all that more difficult (according to NFL Network). I really can't see a reason behind them saying stuff like that.

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What if Bush slides to...

Nah, I'm not going there. ;)

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Haha. Honestly if somehow he made it past the Jets, he might slip quite a ways.

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If Reggie makes it past the Texans, I would doubt that he makes it past the Saints. Deuce is very good, but Deuce might have some difficulty producing any more. The guy can't stay healthy. He's great when he's on the field. However, if he's not going to spend much time on it, they might as well add another back who can share the load. It makes sense. Take the pressure off of each guy by having them split carries.

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Total smoke. Any team, no matter what personel they have, could not pass on a talent like Bush. They could trade Davis for a 2nd or 3rd, or keep both. Texans do have a lot of needs, that could be addressed if they would trade the #1 pick, but not when someone of Bush's talent. I have never seen a player come from college with as much talent as he has.

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Bush will be the third leading rusher of all rookies next year in the NFL.

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houston has much greater needs than bush.they should look to going in th e15-20 range and trying to stockpile as many picks as possible.d'brick should be their man after carr almost got killed last year.if they want to stay top 10,they can probably get him around 4(maybe trading with the jets,lord knows they would take bush)

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Yup, in the top five, the Jets are the only team who really has a huge need at RB. I could see him going to the 9ers honestly if the Jets let him slip.

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I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.[/QUOTE]

I was just about to post this question in another thread.

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it might just be smoke, but the fact is the texanss having been talking contract with mario williams and haven't even budged on trying to sign reggie.

If they were really intent on signing bush, they could have done like the bengals did with palmer and finished his contract by already.

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[quote=firstdown]I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.[/quote]

Right, AND they just signed Dominick Davis to a long term extension. I know most of the media pops huge wood over Bush, but I think they fail to remember he basically played on an all-star team. He'll be above average, but he's no Barry Sanders. He'll fit into the Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown mold. Above average but not spectacular. Sure enough, he'll be a cornerstone runningback, but that's no reason to blow your wad on him with the first pick when you HAVE a cornerstone RB in Davis.

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[quote=firstdown]I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.[/quote]

the best available for us would be mario williams. I'd never draft a RB in the top 5... too much money for not that much more production on a guy with a much more limited NFL lifetime. plenty of 2nd round backs end up fine, adn the first round is the best place to get your OTs and superstars at positions that become VERY hit or miss later on (DE, true #1 WR - usually only one can't miss per draft, ie fitz or B edwards).

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Right, AND they just signed Dominick Davis to a long term extension. I know most of the media pops huge wood over Bush, but I think they fail to remember he basically played on an all-star team. He'll be above average, but he's no Barry Sanders. He'll fit into the Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown mold. Above average but not spectacular. Sure enough, he'll be a cornerstone runningback, but that's no reason to blow your wad on him with the first pick when you HAVE a cornerstone RB in Davis.[/quote]

he could be LT II + pro bowl return guy. Davis is another can't stay healthy back (like deuce, and s davis, and d foster).

Davis is a decent RB/WR type and mathis is a PB return man, so I'd agree their needs are elsewhere.

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Could be, but LT was on a TCU team with nowhere NEAR the talent that Bush had around him. Talk about having the passing game open up the running game. In addition to that he had a back like White to spell him when he needed it.

Deangelo Williams will be the LT back of this draft class. I can also see Maroney doing well if he replaces Edge in Indy.

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Did the Texans extend Carr's contract this offseason? Are they locked into him as their guy still or might they find some competition for him with the No. 1 pick?

With the #1 overall pick, the Houston Texans select Omar Jacobs

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Could be, but LT was on a TCU team with nowhere NEAR the talent that Bush had around him. Talk about having the passing game open up the running game. In addition to that he had a back like White to spell him when he needed it.

Deangelo Williams will be the LT back of this draft class. I can also see Maroney doing well if he replaces Edge in Indy.[/quote]

DW won't be LT. he averaged 175 receiving yards a year in college ;)
more like a holmes or portis CoD type.

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[quote=TAFKAS]Did the Texans extend Carr's contract this offseason? Are they locked into him as their guy still or might they find some competition for him with the No. 1 pick?

With the #1 overall pick, the Houston Texans select Omar Jacobs[/quote]

they gave him an 8mill option bonus, so i'd guess they're still considering him the guy around there.

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He'll BE the guy when they keep him upright. That's what if I were Carr, I'd be BEGGING them to trade the Jets for their pick and get Brick.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]He'll BE the guy when they keep him upright. That's what if I were Carr, I'd be BEGGING them to trade the Jets for their pick and get Brick.[/quote]

Exactly..... Let's face it... Curtis Martin is over the hill and the Texans could really make Davis look good if they just added to their o-line. But I could see Bush going to anyone in the top 5, just about. Personally I would like to see him fall to number 5 and land with the packers, but they would only take him if they sign arrington.

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I wish they'd get on with signing LaVar. I still have a feeling he's going to the Giants.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I wish they'd get on with signing LaVar. I still have a feeling he's going to the Giants.[/quote]

miami and jacksonville are offering more than the giants.

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Maybe it's me, but I see Reggie Bush in the pros a lot like he was in college -- a part time player. Normally I'm behind the small guys, but I just don't know with him. Hopefully he proves me wrong, because he is exciting to watch.

I wouldn't be so sure a trade with the Jets gets Houston Brick. I could definitely see NO going after him. NO has good receivers, NO has an awesome RB (when healthy, which is a little bit of a problem, but Stecker is solid too), NO has a new QB who has been doing well, and NO has a few good Olinemen. Their other tackle, whos name I can never remember, is VERY solid for them.

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[quote=That Guy]miami and jacksonville are offering more than the giants.[/quote]

Right, and I still feel like he's going where the money is, but something else is telling me he REALLY wants to stick it to the Skins.

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Is Domanick Davis really a cornerstone running back?

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[quote=Daseal]Their other tackle, whos name I can never remember, is VERY solid for them.[/quote]

Jammal Brown

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It's not a smokescreen, but if the Texans pick first, they will take Bush. They may seriously be pursuing a move down. I think Reggie makes them a playoff contender, but if they want to build a super bowl contender over the next few years, they should try to trade down.

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Bush makes the Texans a playoff contender?! Seriously?! Come on now man, they desperately need some line help.

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[quote=GTripp0012]It's not a smokescreen, but if the Texans pick first, they will take Bush. They may seriously be pursuing a move down. I think Reggie makes them a playoff contender, but if they want to build a super bowl contender over the next few years, they should try to trade down.[/quote]

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Bush makes the Texans a playoff contender?! Seriously?! Come on now man, they desperately need some line help.[/quote]

They have added some line help in the offseason. I'm assuming they will add more in the draft.

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I've heard a scenario on talk radio that would send both of denver's first round picks this year, and a second or third round also plus their 2nd or third next year to trade up to the texans spot to take Bush.