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SmootSmack 04-19-2006 01:50 PM

Broncos Send First Round Pick to Niners
 
The Niners acquired the 22nd overall selection in the draft from the Denver Broncos on Wednesday for picks in the second round and third round.

The Broncos will receive the 37th and 68th overall picks in the deal.

The Niners own the sixth overall pick in the draft as well as No. 22 in the first round.

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2413928[/url]

(A year ago today, April 19, 2005, the Broncos and Redskins made a trade that would ultimately land the Redskins Auburn QB Jason Campbell)

PSUSkinsFan21 04-19-2006 01:54 PM

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Hmm. I havn't checked those draft pick value charts or anything, but I think I'd rather be on the 9ers end of this deal.

scowan 04-19-2006 01:57 PM

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The 49ers should be able to get two starters from these first round picks. They probably don't have a lot of faith in what their later picks (2nd and 3rd rounds)will bring them. The Broncos have more picks and are looking for more players I guess.

BrudLee 04-19-2006 01:58 PM

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According to the pick value charts I've seen, it's a wash.

Big C 04-19-2006 02:01 PM

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niners ripped the broncos off

dirthogs311 04-19-2006 02:03 PM

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Ok so now who are they targeting to pick?

Big C 04-19-2006 02:14 PM

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probably santonio holmes or another WR since they lost lloyd and their recievers suck

PSUSkinsFan21 04-19-2006 02:43 PM

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I wouldn't rule out DeAngelo Williams or Lawrence Maroney here either (their running game was terrible......Gore probably isn't the answer and they've not liked Barlow for years). In reality, though, they have so many needs that the second pick is a crapshoot. I think they have to be going TE at #6.

GTripp0012 04-19-2006 03:20 PM

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I think they are targeting DeAngelo Williams, but they will have to trade up ahead of the Pats. Give up a 4th or something.

GTripp0012 04-19-2006 03:22 PM

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Also, I doubt that they will take Vernon Davis. They have Eric Johnson, whos a bright spot on a weak team.

12thMan 04-19-2006 03:22 PM

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....all this talk of drafting a RB puts a smile on my face when I think about we have Clinton Portis, who is what - 25 yrs old?

warriorzpath 04-19-2006 03:24 PM

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]I wouldn't rule out DeAngelo Williams or Lawrence Maroney here either (their running game was terrible......Gore probably isn't the answer and they've not liked Barlow for years). In reality, though, they have so many needs that the second pick is a crapshoot. I think they have to be going TE at #6.[/quote]

Yeah, they're probably getting VD (that's some crazy initials) at #6. Alex Smith will a playmaker to throw to.

amorentz 04-19-2006 03:34 PM

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[quote=12thMan]....all this talk of drafting a RB puts a smile on my face when I think about we have Clinton Portis, who is what - 25 yrs old?[/quote]

Oh man me too...he's just hitting his prime!

Beemnseven 04-19-2006 03:40 PM

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The Broncos still have the #15 pick from the Atlanta-NY Jets trade. I remember reading that they were looking to part with one of their 1st rounders because of a lack of available cap space for their draft pool.

Still, if I were a Denver fan, I'd probably be voicing my disapproval of this deal right about now.

PSUSkinsFan21 04-19-2006 03:42 PM

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Yah, Denver probably could have had the #2 WR and #2 RB in the draft if they stayed where they were. The cap space problem makes sense though.

Daseal 04-19-2006 03:43 PM

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I wish we could have gotten a deal like that last year. Of course we were already short on picks last year, but still!

GTripp0012 04-19-2006 03:43 PM

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Denver said awhile ago they didn't have the money to add two first rounders.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-19-2006 05:23 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012]Denver said awhile ago they didn't have the money to add two first rounders.[/QUOTE]

Excellent point. In addition, I think the move was a brilliant one by the Broncos. This year's draft has a ton of depth. According to many scouts, there is a lot of talent to be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. If I already had one pick in the 1st round, I too would trade the other pick to get two high 2nd and 3rd rounders. The Broncos should be able to come away with two high-quality players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

dmek25 04-19-2006 05:32 PM

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as much as i like davis,the niners are crazy to take him.too many other holes to fill.should be moving down and trying to get more picks

JWsleep 04-19-2006 07:14 PM

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One question here is how this makes the original trade by the skins for Campbell look. THat was our pick at #22. When the broncs made the trade with us, did they think they were getting a 2nd and 3rd rounder, or a very high first-rounder, because they thought we were gonna suck?

As for the deal, it makes sense for both teams, IMO. The niners need top-shelf help ASAP. THe broncs are good, the draft is deep, and they don't have the cash.

Duffman003 04-19-2006 07:53 PM

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would that be a rip off for how deep this draft is?

skinsfanthru&thru 04-19-2006 07:56 PM

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wow I guess even the 49ers can make a decent move every now and then.

That Guy 04-19-2006 10:57 PM

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its 780-780 on points, complete wash there.

I do think the 49ers take davis, cause a mismatched TE covered by LBs and safeties is a huge safety blanket for alex smith. They do have johnson, but johnson doesn't really play like a TE, he's not a jumper, he runs straight ahead.

I think pick 22 could be for manny lawson. They have an EXTREME weakness at OLB, and TJ slaughter isn't a great bandaid for one of the 2 open spots.

diehardskin2982 04-20-2006 12:21 AM

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do you think the niners would take those 2 picks and move to the number 1 to take reggie bush? I know most likely no but it is quite intriging

That Guy 04-20-2006 12:59 AM

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its possible, but RB isn't there biggest hole and they have serious serious needs at a lot of other positions (LB, secondary, OL, QB :P)

SmootSmack 04-20-2006 01:02 AM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]do you think the niners would take those 2 picks and move to the number 1 to take reggie bush? I know most likely no but it is quite intriging[/QUOTE]

Then they'd have a Bush/Gore backfield. Wouldn't that be something? LOL

That Guy 04-20-2006 01:10 AM

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[quote=TAFKAS]Then they'd have a Bush/Gore backfield. Wouldn't that be something? LOL[/quote]

speaking of which, wouldn't it be nice to have just 1 election where you actually had a candidate on either side you wanted to win? the last three elections for me have been fairly lose-lose.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-20-2006 10:00 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]its 780-780 on points, complete wash there.[/QUOTE]

The only thing I don't like about the point-valuation chart is that it doesn't, and can't, take into account the differences in talent year to year. For example, the #1 pick this year (likely Reggie Bush) is worth the same number of the points as Alex Smith was last year.

That's why I think it was a good trade for the Broncos. In a year with a deep draft class, it's probably better to trade down to get more picks in the high-mid rounds.

That Guy 04-20-2006 10:43 AM

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i also think over reliance on a chart that hass no scientific basis is a little crazy, but i guess that's life.

D'BOYZ 04-20-2006 10:59 AM

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yeah I don't get the value of the chart also it doesn't put the real value on every draft and sometimes teams got to pay 2 much to move up the draft, thsi was a real value trade.

Dirtbag59 04-20-2006 01:17 PM

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You guys are right. The 49ers shouldn't take Davis. Remember last year when Eric Johnson went to the Pro Bowl and just dominated the league. Oh wait that didn't happen.

Johnson is good but Davis is going to be something special. Alex Smith needs a TE like Davis, look what Gates did for Brees. Plus with Davis in the fold the 9ers could trade Johnson for another need or just be the most effective team ever at running doulble tight sets. If the 49ers stay put at #6 they'd be stupid to pass up on Davis. The only pick that I will use to justify them passing him at that point is AJ Hawk.

BTW: Davis isn't just gonna play TE. A 4.38 40 time is going to give you some playing time at split end.


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