Marcus Vick's new team?
 

I cant believe they are giving this guy a chance
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Marcus Vick to try out for Dolphins at rookie minicamp By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer
May 3, 2006
DAVIE, Fla. (AP) -- Bypassed in the NFL draft, former Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick will try out with the [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/mia/"]Miami Dolphins[/URL] when he takes part in their three-day rookie minicamp beginning Friday.
Vick's troubled career at Virginia Tech included repeated brushes with the law and ended when he was kicked off the team in January after his junior season. He's the brother of [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/atl/"]Atlanta Falcons[/URL] quarterback [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448/"]Michael Vick[/URL].

Vick's presence at the camp was confirmed by Tommy Reamon, his high school coach in Newport News, Va.
The Dolphins declined to identify players invited to the camp. A statement by coach Nick Saban suggested that Vick and other invitees may be long shots to receive a contract offer.
"As we did last year, we are going to bring in a number of unsigned players to our rookie minicamp, strictly for evaluation purposes," Saban said. "This doesn't mean we are about to offer any of them a contract. All we are doing is finding out as much as possible about each of these players. This is a continuation of our overall evaluation process and does not imply a commitment of any kind."
The Dolphins, who drafted two receivers but no quarterbacks last weekend, were in the market for passers at the rookie minicamp.
Reamon said he talked with Vick Wednesday about the tryout.
"He's excited. We're all excited," Reamon said. "This is the steal of the draft class. He's the most versatile player the Dolphins have had in years."
Vick passed for 2,393 yards and 17 touchdowns last season for the Hokies and led them to the Atlantic Coast Conference championship game. But he made an obscene gesture at fans during a game at West Virginia, and he stomped on the leg of a fallen opponent in the Gator Bowl.
Tech suspended him from school in 2004 because of legal problems, and he was stopped in December for speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license, which led to his dismissal from the team.
Michael Vick recently said his brother has matured greatly over the past few months but needs someone "to take him under their wing."
Reamon said Vick is eager to another chance.
"He made decisions that were out of character and wrong, and he has learned from them," the coach said. "He's asking for an opportunity."
Miami has three quarterbacks on the roster -- newly acquired [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4659/"]Daunte Culpepper[/URL], [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7026/"]Cleo Lemon[/URL] and Brock Berlin. Saban hopes to add as his No. 2 quarterback former Detroit starter [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5889/"]Joey Harrington[/URL], either in a trade or after he's released by the Lions.

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Same team that welcomed back Ricky Williams? I can believe it.

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They arent in a great need for a QB, but still giving this freaking loser a chance is bad.

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Walks like a Raider, Quacks like a Raider, must be a....................??????

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[quote=Hog1]Walks like a Raider, Quacks like a Raider, must be a....................??????[/quote]:goodjob:

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[quote=hooskins]They arent in a great need for a QB, but still giving this freaking loser a chance is bad.[/quote]he is a least worth a workout. i dont want him on my team but what could it hurt the dolphins?

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as far as talent, he's one of the better QBs left unsigned, but when you factor in that he's nuts...

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[quote=That Guy]as far as talent, he's one of the better QBs left unsigned, but when you factor in that he's nuts...[/quote]

Ha ha......"he's nuts".....I think I saw that in his scouting report.

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i hate to say it but i think he will make some team a very good qb-now can we PLEASE START JASON

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I think Vick will fill out to be a decent QB if he gets the right people to work with him. Any other position I'd say take him NOW if he was still avaliable and had taht kind of tallent, but QB is a little differnt. He has a lot of raw tallent and can fill out to be a damn good QB. As for the Jason post, I'm afraid you'll have to wait one more year. Unless he becomes AMAZING all the sudden in camp/ preseason.

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[QUOTE=somebody509]I think Vick will fill out to be a decent QB if he gets the right people to work with him. Any other position I'd say take him NOW if he was still avaliable and had taht kind of tallent, but QB is a little differnt. He has a lot of raw tallent and can fill out to be a damn good QB. As for the Jason post, I'm afraid you'll have to wait one more year. Unless he becomes AMAZING all the sudden in camp/ preseason.[/QUOTE]

welcome somebody. I agree and disagree. I agree that Marcus Vick will probably make a team happy in a few years but like mentioned earlier, he will need the right people to be around him and teach him for ahwile. I wouldnt even be surprised to see him picked up later in the year or even into next season. I disagree in that you might not have to wait the full year for JC because Brunell might get hurt. Im definitely not saying I want Brunell to go down, because believe me without him the skins don't make the playoffs. But yea he won't be the starter, and might even be behind Todd Collins on the depth chart, only because Collins knows the Al Saunders system. God I wish we could start the preseason already.

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Yeah but if Culpepper is not ready then who do the phins have at qb??

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Jesus fucking Christ, the kid made a mistake. Let him correct himself. Quit playa hating.

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28]Yeah but if Culpepper is not ready then who do the phins have at qb??[/quote]

Ms. Cleo

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[quote=Bozzy]Jesus fucking Christ, the kid made a mistake. Let him correct himself. Quit playa hating.[/quote]

Easy on the language.

Oh yeah - he made several mistakes. He'd be in jail if he wasn't a Vick. Probably the worst thing that ever happened to him was his brother being such a badarse. Dude just has grown up "above the law" and overconfident. He thought he had it made. Now look at him - cut from his school's team, undrafted free agent trying to catch on with a pro team (a stupid one with Ho Jo's colors at that.)

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I think Miami is a good fit for him. Saban is fresh out of college and can still relate to the college kids, but he's also a guy who demands respect and discipline. As a quarterback, I think Marcus has more skills than his brother. He shattered Mikes highschool records, and is a much better passer, in my opinion.

Best of luck to him to pull his life together. If he doesn't make anything of himself he has no one to blame but himself. I don't understand why people wish for someone to fail. Yeah, I've lost a ton of respect for the kid, when I heard he was going to Tech I was a bit excited to watch him, and even the off the field stuff I could deal with, the stomping on Elvis Dubberville (sp?) was what really made me lose respect for him. Hopefully he's just immature and has grown up a bit.

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Easy on the language.[/quote]
While profanity isn't really a staple throughout TWP.net, it's used fairly regularly. This isn't a site to bring an eight yearold and I think we can all handle the occassional cuss word. Strong words are required to make a strong statement sometimes.

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[quote=Daseal]I think Miami is a good fit for him. Saban is fresh out of college and can still relate to the college kids, but he's also a guy who demands respect and discipline. As a quarterback, I think Marcus has more skills than his brother. He shattered Mikes highschool records, and is a much better passer, in my opinion.

Best of luck to him to pull his life together. If he doesn't make anything of himself he has no one to blame but himself. I don't understand why people wish for someone to fail. Yeah, I've lost a ton of respect for the kid, when I heard he was going to Tech I was a bit excited to watch him, and even the off the field stuff I could deal with, the stomping on Elvis Dubberville (sp?) was what really made me lose respect for him. Hopefully he's just immature and has grown up a bit.


While profanity isn't really a staple throughout TWP.net, it's used fairly regularly. This isn't a site to bring an eight yearold and I think we can all handle the occassional cuss word. Strong words are required to make a strong statement sometimes.[/quote]

I totally agree. Good job Daseal.

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Really what do the phins have to lose? I mean if works out for them then good for them, but if he dosent its not like they wasted a draft pick on him or lost money on him...

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miami=place marcus vick shouldnt go. he needs to go to a quiet town like green bay or buffalo or something where its not as easy to get distracted and get into trouble. maybe like a kansas city or something. south beach will get him into trouble if he stays with miami

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if vick cant control him self in the rural redneck w virginia,whats going to happen in one of the best party towns in the world?there is trouble any where you look in south beach

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[quote=Daseal]While profanity isn't really a staple throughout TWP.net, it's used fairly regularly. This isn't a site to bring an eight yearold and I think we can all handle the occassional cuss word. Strong words are required to make a strong statement sometimes.[/quote]

I've used profanity on occasion myself, but I'm sure his particular statement would be much more offensive to a lot of members than a simple "WTF?"

IMO it was unwarranted and uncalled for.

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cock, balls!

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Well put ArtMonkGrillz, well put.

I'm going to continue to call you that if you don't mind. I just have this image of old school Art Monk with Chad Johnson teeth.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Well put ArtMonkGrillz, well put.

I'm going to continue to call you that if you don't mind. I just have this image of old school Art Monk with Chad Johnson teeth.[/quote]

That's fine with me; maybe a little flare would get him into the HOF.

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Sweet Grillz.

Honestly, I bet he would be there if he robbed a jewelry store and told them, "Make me a grill."

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I'm not going to waste time making excuses for Marcus. He's got pretty decent potential and will get his chance. The NFL is not made up of golden boys and a lot of head coaches put up with immature and selfish players. Marcus' struggles will be that people are going to expect him to be next human highlight reel, which he won't be. He's not going to make things happen with his feet when things break down. He's a much better passer than Ron but I think a lot of people won't be all that impressed by him if he doesn't display some that Vick elusiveness.

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[quote=Daseal]Saban is fresh out of college and can still relate to the college kids, [/quote]

Do you really want to run your pro team around how the coach relates to children / college age kids? I don't. When a kid reaches the NFL, it's time for players to man up and start relating to professionalism. Take that college kid crap back to your Mamma!

N F L - Not For Long if you keep up with that attitude.

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[quote=724Skinsfan] He's got pretty decent potential and will get his chance.[/quote]

This is what bothers me. I dont agree that he has decent potential. He is athletic, and thats where the "potential" stops. A successful QB in the NFL has to be smart, respected, and a leader. Vick will never be any of those. Hes a thug that will never get past his own demons enough to inspire those around him to victory. If you cant pull your life together with the potential of millions of dollars within your reach, then it just aint gonna happen.:banghead:

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[quote=ParkerGibbs]This is what bothers me. I dont agree that he has decent potential. He is athletic, and thats where the "potential" stops. A successful QB in the NFL has to be smart, respected, and a leader. Vick will never be any of those. Hes a thug that will never get past his own demons enough to inspire those around him to victory. If you cant pull your life together with the potential of millions of dollars within your reach, then it just aint gonna happen.:banghead:[/quote]

:goodjob: Agreed 100%

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You'll get no argument from me regarding Vick's character issues. However, as long as players like Pacman Jones get a shot then you can be sure there are coaches in the NFL that are going to give Marcus a shot. He'll find some altruistic player or coach that takes him under his wing and defies public opinion that he can't be "saved". You may not want him in the NFL but eventually (and sadly) he'll find his onto a roster.

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Right, and honestly while I may not like him, I'll applaud him if he can get his crap together.

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I don't doubt somebody will give him a shot.........Maurice Clarrett got a shot.........T.O. can always find a new sucker...........Ricky Williams was welcomed back after stabbing his teamates in the back. I just don't think he'll ever be successful, particulary because he's a headcase. You might be able to get by on talent and still be a headcase in many positions in the NFL, but at QB? I just don't see it. Vick can't be as good of a QB as PacMan is a CB because his position doesn't allow for success when you have your head up your butt.

He might get a shot, but I'm not so sure he'll land a roster spot. And even if he does, simply getting on a roster is still a tremedous waste of potential for a guy who had all the physical gifts for the position.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]I don't doubt somebody will give him a shot.........Maurice Clarrett got a shot.........T.O. can always find a new sucker...........Ricky Williams was welcomed back after stabbing his teamates in the back. I just don't think he'll ever be successful, particulary because he's a headcase. You might be able to get by on talent and still be a headcase in many positions in the NFL, but at QB? I just don't see it. Vick can't be as good of a QB as PacMan is a CB because his position doesn't allow for success when you have your head up your butt.

He might get a shot, but I'm not so sure he'll land a roster spot. And even if he does, simply getting on a roster is still a tremedous waste of potential for a guy who had all the physical gifts for the position.[/quote]You are exactly right, there are 10 other guys on the field that need to trust you 100 % when you are the qb. marcus vick will have a very difficult time commanding respect from his teammates and that spells disaster for team chemistry

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The best thing you can do for Marcus Vick as a player and a person is not give him anything (that includes a shot at making an nfl team). Until he stops taking all that he has for granted, he won't be able to do anything.

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The best thing you can do for Marcus is treat him like he's not Michaels brother. Don't give him [B]anything[/B] you wouldn't give any other prospect and don't sell your headlines with his name on it every time he does something that many, many other athletes do. I hope I'm clear in that I'm not supportive of his actions at all. I cheered for VA Tech when they suspended him. He absolutely deserved it.

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[quote=724Skinsfan]The best thing you can do for Marcus is treat him like he's not Michaels brother. Don't give him [B]anything[/B] you wouldn't give any other prospect and don't sell your headlines with his name on it every time he does something that many, many other athletes do. I hope I'm clear in that I'm not supportive of his actions at all. I cheered for VA Tech when they suspended him. He absolutely deserved it.[/quote]

Do you think he deserves a shot with an nfl team ? (this is not meant to be a rhetorical or sarcastic question)

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If marcus vick does not catch on with some nfl team he will be in prison within 2 years.

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HAHAHA. Excellent.

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[quote=warriorzpath]Do you think he deserves a shot with an nfl team ? (this is not meant to be a rhetorical or sarcastic question)[/quote]

Do I think he deserves a shot?
Physical abilty: Definitely.
Character: Absolutely not!
Overall:No

Do I think he will get a shot? Yes. Physical ability weighs more heavily than character does with certain coaches.

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To me, if you are looking for a leader at quarterback (and some teams may not need a leader at that position) - you absolutely cannot give him a shot until he gets his sh*t straight with some other sucker... I mean team (or league). Some players are different people on the field and can turn IT on and off. He's one of the players that don't have a switch.