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DCsports 06-01-2006 09:11 PM

Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
Jason Campbell over Tod Collins
and Brandon Lloyd over Randel El

Schneed10 06-01-2006 09:21 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=DCsports]Im my opinion (only top picks per position)

[B]Offense[/B]
[U]QBS[/U]
1) Brunell
2) Jason Campbell
3) Tod C.

[U]Recievers[/U]
1) Moss
2) Lloyd
3) Randel El

[U]RBS[/U]
1)Portis
2)Betts
3)Cartwright

[U]TE's[/U]
1)Cooley
2)Fauria

[B]Defense[/B]
[U]CBS[/U]
1)Springs
2)Rodgers

[U]Safetys[/U]
1) Sean Taylor
2) Adam Archuleta
3) Pierson

[U]LBS[/U]
1) Marcus Washington
2) Lemar Marshall
3) Rodger Mcintosh[/quote]

Well gee.

ArtMonkDrillz 06-01-2006 09:29 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=Schneed10]Well gee.[/quote]
hilarious in its simplicity

DCsports 06-01-2006 09:32 PM

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who says gee anyways?!?!?!

SmootSmack 06-01-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
Head coaching staff. The following are some of my crazy, off the wall predictions:

Head Coach/Team President: Joe Gibbs
Assoc. HC Offense: Al Saunders
Assoc. HC Defense: Gregg Williams
Running Backs Coach: Earnest Byner
Wide Receivers Coach: Stan Hixon

I know. It's insane.

MTK 06-01-2006 10:01 PM

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LOL is this the official no-brainer thread?

BigSKINBauer 06-01-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=Mattyk72]LOL is this the official no-brainer thread?[/quote]
well i don't know... I mean we could talk about the LBs, Who is better Lloyd or ARE? I wonder if this thread will go much farther without talking about JC and Brunell and who should be number 1.

Paintrain 06-01-2006 10:15 PM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]well i don't know... I mean we could talk about the LBs, Who is better Lloyd or ARE? I wonder if this thread will go much farther without talking about JC and Brunell and who should be number 1.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it obvious that Ramsey should be #1 at QB? (Insert sarcastic smirk and cringe awaiting backlash)

724Skinsfan 06-01-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
I said "gee" once. Once.

BigSKINBauer 06-01-2006 10:24 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=Paintrain]Isn't it obvious that Ramsey should be #1 at QB? (Insert sarcastic smirk and cringe awaiting backlash)[/quote]
I guess you are right, we need to get this son bitch rolling. Not that I believe it but, Brunell is too old to be a starter in this league. Bring on the rook, there is no way we can win a bowl with the old man.

SmootSmack 06-01-2006 10:24 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
Didn't have the balls to post a Punter depth chart I see.

That Guy 06-02-2006 05:34 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
QB:
ramsey
wuerful (sp?)
matthews

LB:
lavar arrington
Lavar arrington's second arm
Lavar's arrington's best friend
trotter
armistead

WR
westbrook
gardner
farris
jacobs
antonio brown

RB
trung
(do you really need anyone else?)

mooby 06-02-2006 05:42 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=That Guy]QB:
ramsey
wuerful (sp?)
matthews

LB:
lavar arrington
Lavar arrington's second arm
Lavar's arrington's best friend
trotter
armistead

WR
westbrook
gardner
farris
jacobs
antonio brown

RB
trung
(do you really need anyone else?)[/quote]

Wait a minute, you don't have the almight Lavernues Coles on your list. What's wrong with you man? Where are your priorities? And we look a little thin at linebacker, did you list Lavar Arrington's right leg as well? That leg is a beast.

That Guy 06-02-2006 06:10 AM

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[quote=mooby]Wait a minute, you don't have the almight Lavernues Coles on your list. What's wrong with you man? Where are your priorities? And we look a little thin at linebacker, did you list Lavar Arrington's right leg as well? That leg is a beast.[/quote]

LC, despite possessing only 9 toes and 8 fingers, is far too talented for my list.... sorry.

ArtMonkDrillz 06-02-2006 07:22 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
I disagree. Mortal Kombat is a very good game, but Donkey Kong is the best game of all time.

Daseal 06-02-2006 07:32 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
That Guy beat me to he LaVar jokes =(

GoSkins! 06-02-2006 07:47 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=Mattyk72]LOL is this the official no-brainer thread?[/quote]

Must be. Notice how they didn't even try to spell Prioleau....

I guess we will just list him as Pierson or maybe PP!

Schneed10 06-02-2006 08:27 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=DCsports]who says gee anyways?!?!?![/quote]

Who writes depth charts that only go three players deep anyways?!?!?!

Well gee, like we don't know who the starters are!

I said gee again! Gee, I sure hope I don't have to read another thread like this. Gee, what a waste of time this is. Gee. Gee whiz.

TheMalcolmConnection 06-02-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]I disagree. Mortal Kombat is a very good game, but Donkey Kong is the best game of all time.[/quote]

O'Doyle rules.

Drift Reality 06-02-2006 08:44 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
There is one question mark on the depth chart: who is starting at weakside linebacker. That is literally the only question.

It is sort of a stupid question anyway considering the rotation of LBs means that the "starter" is sort of a superficial label.

hooskins 06-02-2006 08:46 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=BigSKINBauer]well i don't know... I mean we could talk about the LBs, Who is better Lloyd or ARE? I wonder if this thread will go much farther without talking about JC and Brunell and who should be number 1.[/quote]

I honestly think Lloyd and ARE are about equal, bc they excell in different ways. Since we will be running 2-3+ wide most of the time, I really dont know if there will truly be a 2nd string reciever. I think Lloyd and ARE will rotate when we run two reciever sets, and have about equal playing time, maybe a little bit more with Lloyd.

Sorry guys, trying to bring this thread back down to earth lol.

Hog1 06-02-2006 08:49 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
Because of his versatility, Defense's must HATE ARE

mheisig 06-02-2006 08:54 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]QB:
ramsey
wuerful (sp?)
matthews

LB:
lavar arrington
Lavar arrington's second arm
Lavar's arrington's best friend
trotter
armistead

WR
westbrook
gardner
farris
jacobs
antonio brown

RB
trung
(do you really need anyone else?)[/QUOTE]

Hey! You stole my list! I thought I had that mofo locked up tight...

Drift Reality 06-02-2006 08:55 AM

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[QUOTE=hooskins]I honestly think Lloyd and ARE are about equal, bc they excell in different ways. Since we will be running 2-3+ wide most of the time, I really dont know if there will truly be a 2nd string reciever. I think Lloyd and ARE will rotate when we run two reciever sets, and have about equal playing time, maybe a little bit more with Lloyd.

Sorry guys, trying to bring this thread back down to earth lol.[/QUOTE]

In a conventional two-back offense you basically have a slotback and a split-end (both referred to as wide receivers in popular nomenclature). The split-end lines up on the line of scrimmage whereas the slot-back lines up about 2-3 yards off the line, so he can go in motion. In many conventional sets, they will both position themselves close to the hashes - away from the offensive line but often, the slotback can will position himself directly adjacent to the offensive line.

Because of their positioning, the split-end normally will be asked to run more fly and post patterns while the slotback will run ins, outs, hooks - short to intermmediate patterns. Consequently, you normally want your split-end to be someone who is faster than quick (like Lloyd) and your slotback to be someone who is quicker than fast (like El). In an ideal world, you have someone like Moss, who has both.

My guess is that in a 2-receiver set, you have Cooley lined up at tight-end, Lloyd at split-end and Moss at slotback. If they go with a 3-receiver set, then El will come in for Cooley and play slotback and Moss will move up on the line.

But in most formations you need that classic receiver to play the split-end, which is one of the main reasons they brought in Lloyd.

MonkFan4Life 06-02-2006 09:02 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=724Skinsfan]I said "gee" once. Once.[/quote]

Hey the "once. ONCE" Is that a Johnny Dangerously quote ? :goodjob: If it is !!!

724Skinsfan 06-02-2006 09:34 AM

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[quote=MonkFan4Life]Hey the "once. ONCE" Is that a Johnny Dangerously quote ? :goodjob: If it is !!![/quote]

You got it!:food-smil

MonkFan4Life 06-02-2006 03:35 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
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Beemnseven 06-02-2006 03:50 PM

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality]In a conventional two-back offense you basically have a slotback and a split-end (both referred to as wide receivers in popular nomenclature). The split-end lines up on the line of scrimmage whereas the slot-back lines up about 2-3 yards off the line, so he can go in motion. In many conventional sets, they will both position themselves close to the hashes - away from the offensive line but often, the slotback can will position himself directly adjacent to the offensive line.

Because of their positioning, the split-end normally will be asked to run more fly and post patterns while the slotback will run ins, outs, hooks - short to intermmediate patterns. Consequently, you normally want your split-end to be someone who is faster than quick (like Lloyd) and your slotback to be someone who is quicker than fast (like El). In an ideal world, you have someone like Moss, who has both.

My guess is that in a 2-receiver set, you have Cooley lined up at tight-end, Lloyd at split-end and Moss at slotback. If they go with a 3-receiver set, then El will come in for Cooley and play slotback and Moss will move up on the line.

But in most formations you need that classic receiver to play the split-end, which is one of the main reasons they brought in Lloyd.[/QUOTE]

Have we heard who the official "fullback" is going to be? And is the H-back a feature in the Al Saunders offense?

That Guy 06-02-2006 04:27 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven]Have we heard who the official "fullback" is going to be? And is the H-back a feature in the Al Saunders offense?[/quote]

mike sellers is the fullback and no, there's no h-back. Cooley will be a straight up TE, but i seriously doubt it'll affect his stats (though the extra offensive talent might cut into his totals a bit).

BrudLee 06-02-2006 04:33 PM

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We are going to run so many formations (2wr, 2te, 1rb; 3wr, 1te, 1rb; etc.) that saying a guy like Randle-El (or Lloyd) isn't a starter is kind of misleading. Our third receiver will likely be in for more snaps than our fullback... on some days. Pay no attention to the offensive depth chart at the receiver position - it will only serve to confuse you.

That Guy 06-02-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=BrudLee]We are going to run so many formations (2wr, 2te, 1rb; 3wr, 1te, 1rb; etc.) that saying a guy like Randle-El (or Lloyd) isn't a starter is kind of misleading. Our third receiver will likely be in for more snaps than our fullback... on some days. Pay no attention to the offensive depth chart at the receiver position - it will only serve to confuse you.[/quote]

well, i do think our #2 and #3 may rotate a bit in and out of the 2 WR set, but El is really better as the #3 slot guy, and lloyd is probably a better guy to keep on the field every down.

Beemnseven 06-02-2006 04:48 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
I wonder how often Gibbs and Saunders will allow Randle El to be the trick play guy like he was in Pittsburgh?

Will there be more or less trick plays than the Steelers?

That Guy 06-02-2006 05:13 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven]I wonder how often Gibbs and Saunders will allow Randle El to be the trick play guy like he was in Pittsburgh?

Will there be more or less trick plays than the Steelers?[/quote]

gibbs has always been a trick play happy coach. he's up for anything if it'll help the team win, so i'm sure we'll see it. gardner and portis have throw passes already, so why not El?

GTripp0012 06-02-2006 05:33 PM

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I think it would be a mistake to have a multiple WR set in a non goalline situation without Randle El on the field. Lloyd can play a more traditional split end, but anytime you have a guy like Antwaan on the field, the D needs to respect everything he can do.

Lloyd isn't a big over the middle guy anyway. He has made his living down the sideline making circus catches for three years, and I don't think he brings anything to the table that El doesn't bring (except a few inches). He (Lloyd) should be in during goalline, but with Moss as the guy who will go over the middle the most, I can only see Lloyd as the 3rd WR in most formations. Get them both into the game, but play El in 2 WR sets for his versatility.

That Guy 06-03-2006 05:27 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
[quote=GTripp0012]I think it would be a mistake to have a multiple WR set in a non goalline situation without Randle El on the field. Lloyd can play a more traditional split end, but anytime you have a guy like Antwaan on the field, the D needs to respect everything he can do.

Lloyd isn't a big over the middle guy anyway. He has made his living down the sideline making circus catches for three years, and I don't think he brings anything to the table that El doesn't bring (except a few inches). He (Lloyd) should be in during goalline, but with Moss as the guy who will go over the middle the most, I can only see Lloyd as the 3rd WR in most formations. Get them both into the game, but play El in 2 WR sets for his versatility.[/quote]

that's well and good if you're doing WR option passes or end arounds every other play (but portis and moss can both do those)... when you're not, it's best to put the most actual receiving talent out on the field, which is moss, lloyd, and cooley.

Beemnseven 06-03-2006 08:32 AM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
Starting August 13, in the first preseason game against the Bengals, we'll start to get an idea of exactly how Lloyd and Randle El will be used. It's also going to come down to who performs and who takes a little longer to adjust to the new offense.

steveo395 06-03-2006 12:09 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven]Starting August 13, in the first preseason game against the Bengals, we'll start to get an idea of exactly how Lloyd and Randle El will be used. It's also going to come down to who performs and who takes a little longer to adjust to the new offense.[/quote]
they're barely gonna show anything in the preaseason

GTripp0012 06-03-2006 02:54 PM

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[quote=That Guy]that's well and good if you're doing WR option passes or end arounds every other play (but portis and moss can both do those)... when you're not, it's best to put the most actual receiving talent out on the field, which is moss, lloyd, and cooley.[/quote]How does the trio of Moss, Lloyd and Cooley have anymore recieving talent than Moss, Cooley, and Randle El?

jermus22 06-03-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Pre Depth Chart Rankings
 
This is pretty much a no brainer list. Guys like Nehemiah Broughton, Jimmy Farris, Tyson Walter, Anthony Montgomery, and Nic Clemons could end up getting cut, so I don't include them on my list. Anybody notice how we seem to have a glut of DL on the roster?

QB-Brunell, Campbell, Collins
HB-Portis, Betts, Cartwright
FB-Sellers, White
WR-Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
TE-Cooley, Fauria, R. Johnson
C-Rabach, Lefotu
G-Thomas, Dockery, Pucillo
T-Jansen, Samuels, Molinaro
----------------------------
DT-Griffin, Salave'a, Killings, Boschetti
DE-Daniels, Wynn, Carter, Evans
MLB-Marshall, McCune, Campbell
OLB-Washington, Holdman, C. Clemons, McIntosh (he'll eventually pass Holdman and Clemons on the depth chart)
S-Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty
CB-Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh
-----------------------------
K-Hall
P-Frost
KR-Randle El, Betts, Thrash
PR-Randle El, Thrash
LS-Albright

That Guy 06-03-2006 05:17 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012]How does the trio of Moss, Lloyd and Cooley have anymore recieving talent than Moss, Cooley, and Randle El?[/quote]

because lloyd is a better receiver.


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