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mheisig 06-06-2006 10:21 AM

Redskins vs. Cowboys - 2006 Predictions
 
So I was reading an article on Terell Owens' first practices as a Cowboy and it got me thinking - how does everyone think we'll do against Dallas this year?

Obviously we swept them last year, and the 35-7 route goes down in history as one of my all-time favorite sports moments that brings tears to me eyes. But how improved are they this season (if at all)? Do we sweep again? Split? (God forbid) get swept ourselves?

I'm honestly not sure what I think - TO is the big, obvious difference over last year, but I don't recall our D struggling with him that much when he was an Eagle. Didn't we limit him to 3-4 catches for 30 or so yards on several occasions? Maybe I have selective memory, but I don't recall getting scorched by him much in the past.

TheInspector 06-06-2006 10:47 AM

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I think T.O. is already scared of ST. And if he's not, then he will be once we play each other. I think T.O. is soft, and he won't perform well when he is worrying about ST.

crlesh 06-06-2006 10:52 AM

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[QUOTE=mheisig]...I don't recall getting scorched by [TO] much in the past.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing. Springs has defended him well in the past. TO will get his scores eventually. What we don't want is for him to have a career day at our expense. If we can limit him to <100 yards and 1 score at each meeting, I feel we have been successful and have a good chance to win the game.

dirthogs311 06-06-2006 10:54 AM

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somebody look up owens' #'s against the skins you will find they are not much

That Guy 06-06-2006 11:01 AM

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TO (vs WAS, 2004)
2 for 24 and a TD
6 for 46

randy moss
5 for 66 and a TD (2004 viking)
3 for 40 (2005 raider) - collins messed up, randy could have had a 60yard TD catch, but the pass was weak armed and he had to fall back into the coverage he had easily beaten to try and get it.


ST also has a habit of punching TO and shoving him out of bounds often, which owens clearly doesn't like it, and that's a good thing.

BigSKINBauer 06-06-2006 11:06 AM

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^^^ lets add the fumble to the stats just for kicks.

scowan 06-06-2006 11:10 AM

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You have to think that between Taylor and Arch that T.O. will get hit early and often when they meet him in week 2. I would not even mind a late hit early if it gets T.O. to thinking "Where is Sean?" Terry Glenn was just running around scared in that 2nd meeting in December. I am not guarranting anything, but I think we will give the Cowboys all they want.

backrow 06-06-2006 11:14 AM

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[QUOTE=mheisig]So I was reading an article on Terell Owens' first practices as a Cowboy and it got me thinking - how does everyone think we'll do against Dallas this year?

Obviously we swept them last year, and the 35-7 route goes down in history as one of my all-time favorite sports moments that brings tears to me eyes. But how improved are they this season (if at all)? Do we sweep again? Split? (God forbid) get swept ourselves?

I'm honestly not sure what I think - TO is the big, obvious difference over last year, but I don't recall our D struggling with him that much when he was an Eagle. Didn't we limit him to 3-4 catches for 30 or so yards on several occasions? Maybe I have selective memory, but I don't recall getting scorched by him much in the past.[/QUOTE]


A minor correction is due sir! It is e-girls, cowgirls, and g-nomes. So, from here on out, please use the politically incorrect denunciation or any derivation thereof! Do not, under any circumstances give any quarter to the enemy, and never give them anything other than total derision, and feel free to spew volumous amounts of venom in their direction! Spitting is allowed in this forum, but only toward the enemy! Caution, however, cursing is frowned upon by the computer guru in the sky overhead!


Of course we sweep again, however the first encounter will be much like the last one from 05. The second encounter might be closer, but the outcome will be decided by the 3rd Quarter.


TO will have had his falling out with man-breasts before our second encounter, so he will be a total non-factor in that game, and you already know how the first game will go.

The mediots are enamored with TO, not because he is a playmaker, but a headline maker!
Ignore the mediots!

dirthogs311 06-06-2006 11:37 AM

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I think Jason Witten will have a more productive year. Julius Jones is a ? because of the newly built o-line. I dont see their o-line coming out and dominating right away..... building an o-line takes time..... just look at the skins o-line they have come a long way. Dallas is still a couple years away from doing much and it all starts with the o-line and they are now just starting to rebuild it.

ArtMonkDrillz 06-06-2006 11:46 AM

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I just hope Taylor will be allowed to play in the first game in order to instill the fear in TO that he has in the past.

firstdown 06-06-2006 12:06 PM

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[quote=TheInspector]I think T.O. is already scared of ST. And if he's not, then he will be once we play each other. I think T.O. is soft, and he won't perform well when he is worrying about ST.[/quote]I'm not a TO fan but I would not call him weak. He will go over the middle and take a hit and he did show 2 years back that injury or not he will play "SB that year". I don't know if hes scared of Taylor but I think he respects how hard Taylor will tag you. We have kept him in check the past couple of years which tells me Williams does a good job of game planning for him and thats all we need to do.

D'BOYZ 06-06-2006 12:07 PM

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well the thing with the last meeting vs Owens is that when he played with the eagles you only had to focus on owens because no one else could catch the ball.... here if your team puts a lot of attention to owens it frees Witten, Glenn and fasano and I'm not countign that it will take people out of the boxs giving space for JJ to run... there are 2 many wepons in this team and if Owens recuries more than single coverage it will open the hole offense.

mheisig 06-06-2006 12:07 PM

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[QUOTE=backrow]A minor correction is due sir! It is e-girls, cowgirls, and g-nomes. So, from here on out, please use the politically incorrect denunciation or any derivation thereof! Do not, under any circumstances give any quarter to the enemy, and never give them anything other than total derision, and feel free to spew volumous amounts of venom in their direction! Spitting is allowed in this forum, but only toward the enemy! Caution, however, cursing is frowned upon by the computer guru in the sky overhead!


Of course we sweep again, however the first encounter will be much like the last one from 05. The second encounter might be closer, but the outcome will be decided by the 3rd Quarter.


TO will have had his falling out with man-breasts before our second encounter, so he will be a total non-factor in that game, and you already know how the first game will go.

The mediots are enamored with TO, not because he is a playmaker, but a headline maker!
Ignore the mediots![/QUOTE]

Woops! My bad.

I've made the appropriate additions and subtractions to my vocabulary and all future posts will reflect said changes.

mheisig 06-06-2006 12:46 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]well the thing with the last meeting vs Owens is that when he played with the eagles you only had to focus on owens because no one else could catch the ball.... here if your team puts a lot of attention to owens it frees Witten, Glenn and fasano and I'm not countign that it will take people out of the boxs giving space for JJ to run... there are 2 many wepons in this team and if Owens recuries more than single coverage it will open the hole offense.[/QUOTE]

Terry Glenn? You mean this Terry Glenn?

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ArtMonkDrillz 06-06-2006 12:58 PM

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[quote=mheisig]Terry Glenn? You mean this Terry Glenn?

[IMG]http://test.extensibletech.com/stuff/boo.gif[/IMG][/quote]

LET'S SEE THAT AGAIN!!! Did Glenn go to Florida?

gibbsisgod 06-06-2006 01:03 PM

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I never get tired of seeing that

dblanch66 06-06-2006 01:11 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]well the thing with the last meeting vs Owens is that when he played with the eagles you only had to focus on owens because no one else could catch the ball.... here if your team puts a lot of attention to owens it frees Witten, Glenn and fasano and I'm not countign that it will take people out of the boxs giving space for JJ to run... there are 2 many wepons in this team and if Owens recuries more than single coverage it will open the hole offense.[/QUOTE]
yeah, but isn't Drew Bledsoe your QB? Who is waiting in the wings for when he surely gets hurt? I think Dallas has a very good D which will help win them some games, but the offense...yikes... TO will be crying before week 4.

dmek25 06-06-2006 01:12 PM

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glenn played at the ohio state and i am not a owens fan but he is far from soft. i do think that mr taylor does have his respect but owens will catch balls over the middle.greg williams game planning along with shaun springs play has the skins achieving mild success against owens

dblanch66 06-06-2006 01:12 PM

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[QUOTE=mheisig]Terry Glenn? You mean this Terry Glenn?

[IMG]http://test.extensibletech.com/stuff/boo.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Thati is awesome. hee hee hee hee hee...what a little siss.

gibbsisgod 06-06-2006 01:42 PM

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[quote=dblanch66]yeah, but isn't Drew Bledsoe your QB? Who is waiting in the wings for when he surely gets hurt? I think Dallas has a very good D which will help win them some games, but the offense...yikes... TO will be crying before week 4.[/quote]i agree, if bledsoe goes down and henson is the man behind center the boys will be in trouble!

dmek25 06-06-2006 01:44 PM

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that is a moot point because if brunell goes down, the skins are also in trouble

gibbsisgod 06-06-2006 01:48 PM

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[quote=dmek25]that is a moot point because if brunell goes down, the skins are also in trouble[/quote]i think we are in a better position because of our quality o-line. i would much rather have a qb with no exp. behind a good line than one like they have in dallas. henson will be on his back as much as carr in houston

JoeRedskin 06-06-2006 02:12 PM

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]I never get tired of seeing that[/QUOTE]

Me either.

And, correct me if I am wrong, wasn't it glenn that got plastered in the first game when the C-pukes needed a first at the end of the game?

gibbsisgod 06-06-2006 02:14 PM

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i dont think it was glenn but im gonna check

ArtMonkDrillz 06-06-2006 02:14 PM

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[quote=dmek25]glenn played at the ohio state[/quote]

I just assumed he played at Florida because he looks so much like an alligator in that clip!

ZING!

TheMalcolmConnection 06-06-2006 02:37 PM

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[quote=D'BOYZ]well the thing with the last meeting vs Owens is that when he played with the eagles you only had to focus on owens because no one else could catch the ball.... here if your team puts a lot of attention to owens it frees Witten, Glenn and fasano and I'm not countign that it will take people out of the boxs giving space for JJ to run... there are 2 many wepons in this team and if Owens recuries more than single coverage it will open the hole offense.[/quote]

I'm not going to say you are, but it seems that the collective Cowboy Nation is blowing Anthony Fasano. What I read in draft reports about him is that he's the best blocking tight end in the draft. I heard nothing about him being a stellar receiver. I think he'll make the running game better, but I really doubt he's going to be an offensive weapon. Speaking on the Redskins-Cowboys game only. The Skins never really needed to put extra people in the box to prevent RBs from going nuts. The Skins front four is extremely dominant. With the exception of MAYBE two big runs in overtime, LT himself was fairly quiet. And Julius Jones is NO LT. I think TO might make the game closer than we'd like to think and honestly and here comes the cliche, whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game. Both defenses are going to be great and who makes the fewest mistakes win. It'll be brutal, no doubt. If I were, god forbid, a Cowboys fan, my only concern would be so many rookies on defense.

TheMalcolmConnection 06-06-2006 02:37 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin]Me either.

And, correct me if I am wrong, wasn't it glenn that got plastered in the first game when the C-pukes needed a first at the end of the game?[/quote]

It was Patrick Crayton.

D'BOYZ 06-06-2006 02:44 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I'm not going to say you are, but it seems that the collective Cowboy Nation is blowing Anthony Fasano. What I read in draft reports about him is that he's the best blocking tight end in the draft. I heard nothing about him being a stellar receiver. I think he'll make the running game better, but I really doubt he's going to be an offensive weapon. Speaking on the Redskins-Cowboys game only. The Skins never really needed to put extra people in the box to prevent RBs from going nuts. The Skins front four is extremely dominant. With the exception of MAYBE two big runs in overtime, LT himself was fairly quiet. And Julius Jones is NO LT. I think TO might make the game closer than we'd like to think and honestly and here comes the cliche, whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game. Both defenses are going to be great and who makes the fewest mistakes win. It'll be brutal, no doubt. If I were, god forbid, a Cowboys fan, my only concern would be so many rookies on defense.[/quote]


No man Fasano is more of a passing TE great on the second line blocking according to reports that's why on the beggining they where trashing Parcell's pick of fasano because they said we allready have a passing TE in Witten who is a pro bowler, after parcell made clear we're going to go full time with the 2 TE set the pick made sense the idea is to not let the defenses charge 1 side.

and our backup is Romo not henson and as ther said if either QB goes down we both have inexpirience replacements, but I have more confidance of drew making it the hole season than Brunnell

gibbsisgod 06-06-2006 02:46 PM

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we shall see

TheMalcolmConnection 06-06-2006 02:54 PM

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[quote=D'BOYZ]No man Fasano is more of a passing TE great on the second line blocking according to reports that's why on the beggining they where trashing Parcell's pick of fasano because they said we allready have a passing TE in Witten who is a pro bowler, after parcell made clear we're going to go full time with the 2 TE set the pick made sense the idea is to not let the defenses charge 1 side.

and our backup is Romo not henson and as ther said if either QB goes down we both have inexpirience replacements, b[I][B]ut I have more confidance of drew making it the hole season than Brunnell[/B][/I][/quote]

I'd agree with you there. I think we're all concerned about that one. Still though, I know Parcells said it, but that doesn't make Fasano any better of a receiver than he was in college. I just take exception to the fact that he only had something like 8 TDs in his career. I also read how his speed was something not to be desired.

D'BOYZ 06-06-2006 03:03 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I'd agree with you there. I think we're all concerned about that one. Still though, I know Parcells said it, but that doesn't make Fasano any better of a receiver than he was in college. I just take exception to the fact that he only had something like 8 TDs in his career. I also read how his speed was something not to be desired.[/quote]

well he had a 4.71 40's wich is average for TE not really fast but not slow. the analysis is that he doesn has explosive speed... great hands good route runner wich is great because your first target in tha toffesne is Witten as a TE fasano is a guy to take away presure and if teams are concentrating a lot on witten you can still hurth them with fasano.

But I dont expect him to have 800 yard season.

mheisig 06-06-2006 03:13 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]No man Fasano is more of a [B]passing TE[/B] great on the second line blocking according to reports that's why on the beggining they where trashing Parcell's pick of fasano because they said we allready have a [B]passing TE[/B] in Witten who is a pro bowler, after parcell made clear we're going to go full time with the 2 TE set the pick made sense the idea is to not let the defenses charge 1 side.

and our backup is Romo not henson and as ther said if either QB goes down we both have inexpirience replacements, but I have more confidance of drew making it the hole season than Brunnell[/QUOTE]

I've heard of blocking TEs and receiving TEs, but a passing TE? Wouldn't he look kind of out of place in the pocket?

mheisig 06-06-2006 03:22 PM

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]well the thing with the last meeting vs Owens is that when he played with the eagles you only had to focus on owens because no one else could catch the ball.... here if your team puts a lot of attention to owens it frees Witten, Glenn and fasano and I'm not countign that it will take people out of the boxs giving space for JJ to run... there are 2 many wepons in this team and if Owens recuries more than single coverage it will open the hole offense.[/QUOTE]

Funny video of Terry Glenn aside, I'll grant that you do have some offensive weapons, primarily receivers. TO can open things up for everyone, I agree. Unfortunately it wouldn't matter if TO is 30 yards from the nearest defender if your QB is lying flat on his back starting at the clouds.

All the offensive weapons in the world won't do jacksquat with your porous offensive line. You were ranked 4th overall last season in sacks allowed, right behind Houston, Minnesota and the New York Jets. The last time we played Dallas, Bledsoe got nailed what, 7 times?

Not to sound so cliche, but both games this season will come down to how well the Dallas offensive line does. The key to TO, or Glenn, or Fasano or Jones is not coverage in the secondary, it's pressuring Bledsoe.

I don't follow Dallas news, but have they done anything to fix the atrocious O-line?

TheMalcolmConnection 06-06-2006 03:27 PM

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Honestly, I'm not worried about their running game at all. Unless they became the most potent running attack overnight, there's nothing the Skins D can't handle and that was adequately proved last year and the year before that.

D'BOYZ 06-06-2006 05:32 PM

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[quote=mheisig]I've heard of blocking TEs and receiving TEs, but a passing TE? Wouldn't he look kind of out of place in the pocket?[/quote]


HAHAHA got me there Nuff said

D'BOYZ 06-06-2006 05:35 PM

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[quote=mheisig]Funny video of Terry Glenn aside, I'll grant that you do have some offensive weapons, primarily receivers. TO can open things up for everyone, I agree. Unfortunately it wouldn't matter if TO is 30 yards from the nearest defender if your QB is lying flat on his back starting at the clouds.

All the offensive weapons in the world won't do jacksquat with your porous offensive line. You were ranked 4th overall last season in sacks allowed, right behind Houston, Minnesota and the New York Jets. The last time we played Dallas, Bledsoe got nailed what, 7 times?

Not to sound so cliche, but both games this season will come down to how well the Dallas offensive line does. The key to TO, or Glenn, or Fasano or Jones is not coverage in the secondary, it's pressuring Bledsoe.

I don't follow Dallas news, but have they done anything to fix the atrocious O-line?[/quote]

yeah man but that was aftger Adams went down and we had crap at both Tackle position how many sacks did your tea mgot in the first meeting when all the players where healthy ...... 0

and well we have Adams back, sign Fabini to cover the other Tackle position and sign Kosier to take over Allens spot and after the first mini camp wich it isn't much the line looks good Adams a little rusty hope he get it 100% by tranning camp.

JoeRedskin 06-06-2006 06:10 PM

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W/ all due respedt to those unfortunate souls rooting for the team which shall not be named, sorry dudes - Kosiedr and Fabini are not saviors for that pathetic line. Henson is immobile and your back-up ain't a threat.

Campbell has been getting rave reviews from the Skins defense. My bet is that he is much more likely to be able to step in and succeed than Romo.

But - the bottom line is, it all starts in the trenches and your OL simply is not up to par.

That Guy 06-06-2006 06:33 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin]W/ all due respedt to those unfortunate souls rooting for the team which shall not be named, sorry dudes - Kosiedr and Fabini are not saviors for that pathetic line. Henson is immobile and your back-up ain't a threat.

Campbell has been getting rave reviews from the Skins defense. My bet is that he is much more likely to be able to step in and succeed than Romo.

But - the bottom line is, it all starts in the trenches and your OL simply is not up to par.[/quote]

henson ;) accuracy is important when roid bashing. we have to keep our claims of greater intelligence intact you know...

JoeRedskin 06-06-2006 07:31 PM

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My bad, I meant Bledsoe. It appears Henson is just simply a washout.

What's the story on Romo? I know he's been hanging around, but he doesn't seem to generate any buzz other than - "If Bledsoe gets hurt, Henson hasn't shown enough to step up leaving them with Romo". Not exactly ringing endorsements.

At least with Campbell, the question is whether or not he can make the adjustment as he is commonly described as "having all the tools".

LBrown43 06-06-2006 11:03 PM

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[quote=mheisig]Terry Glenn? You mean this Terry Glenn?

[IMG]http://test.extensibletech.com/stuff/boo.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Pictures tells a thousand words. Moving pictures even more. Excellent use of video in a thread response. I giv eit a 9.95. If you added the "boo" mehisig it gets an 11.


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