Junior Seau a Redskin??
 

Just got a heads up that on ESPN Cold Pizza that Junior Seau is talking to the Redskins. He wants More than the vet minimum.

How do you guys feel about this possibility?

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I'd rather Rocky work in with him than Holdman.

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He's nowhere near the player he was, and would basically be depth. The upside is that he's not going to make a mental mistake if he has significant playing time.

I've got real mixed emotions about this. I think this is probably coming from the Seau camp rather than us.

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I don't think its a good idea. We have a lot of young talent at linebacker and I think seau is over-the-hill.

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Apparently we have a decent amount of cash leftover. I'd sign him to a one-year deal with that leftover cash. Let him play until Rocky is ready, then have him be a decent backup.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Apparently we have a decent amount of cash leftover. I'd sign him to a one-year deal with that leftover cash. Let him play until Rocky is ready, then have him be a decent backup.[/quote]

I agree with this. We have some money left to spend and our linebacking corps is very young save Washington, and I would have to consider him an upgrade over Holdman. The real question is how much gas does this guy have left in the tank?

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Let's not forget about Chris Clemons.

I don't really see the point of a move like this. I don't see Seau as much of an upgrade over Clemons, McIntosh, or even Holdman for that matter.

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It's just a signing I don't take an issue with. Clemons will get his time, but I'd rather have someone in place in case Clemons isn't up to the task that's a proven vet. I most DEFINITELY wouldn't break the bank for him, but if he signs a reasonable contract, why not?

That being said, that's the only position on the Skins I will say this for. I don't propose signing Ty Law or someone like that for one year.

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[quote=Schneed10]Let's not forget about Chris Clemons.

I don't really see the point of a move like this. I don't see Seau as much of an upgrade over Clemons, McIntosh, or even Holdman for that matter.[/quote]

I tend to agree with you there (though he probably is an upgrade of Holdman)...I just dont see any need to pay anything for an over the hill vet. We are building a great young core, and I think we need to concentrate on that. That said, he probably would be an excellent mentor for McIntosh...but it just doesnt seem worth it to me.

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To be honest I'm not sure if he is worth it but then again he can be leader and tutor the young guys. What position will he play? During his days with SD he was a beast MLB. With the Fins I think he was a OLB.

p.s. He'll be nearly 38 when the season starts. That's pretty damn old.

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I'd pass.

Over the hill vet looking for one last payday. I wouldn't give it to him.

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What's does a little more than vets minimum mean any ways? He's like a vets vet so what exactly is the vets minimum for a player with 15 years of service?

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[quote=BrudLee]
I've got real mixed emotions about this. I think this is probably coming from the Seau camp rather than us.[/quote]


This seems like a big reach. I wouldn't be surprised if Gibbs or Cerrato or Williams hasn't even heard this rumor yet and will laugh about it later in the day. How do these rumors get started will be the standard response? Dan Snyder learned this kind of mistake long ago even though Seau would come cheap. We don't need any more veteran character on this team anyways.

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For this season, I envision McIntosh getting a lot of the starting time. GW likes to break his rookies in slowly - so he might try to do what he did with Carlos Rogers last year. Rogers opened the season as the nickel, but as he realized that Walt Harris blew chocolate starfish, he started playing Rogers. And Rogers did real well.

Same thing goes here, I think. We'll start off with Clemons and Holdman competing for the job. If they stink, Rocky will get in there a lot. But I don't see GW signing Seau unless he thinks it's a major upgrade over what he has. It's not what we have at the position NOW that matters. It's what GW thinks we're GOING to have come midseason. It's Rocky's spot, it's just GW is going to take some time to hand it to Rocky. And Seau is not going to get signed just to be another body along the line.

This coaching staff likes to promote players from within when possible. They're going to let the current LBs battle it out until Rocky takes over.

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I'd rather see the money spent for OL help.

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At least he would give Salva'a some one to click with.

On a serious note, I really hope this isn't true because it just seems like the type of signing we would have made six or seven years ago. I hear the name "Deion" whispering in the wind when I read that we are possibly in talks with an old veteran who won't have any long term impact.

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[quote=Schneed10]For this season, I envision McIntosh getting a lot of the starting time. GW likes to break his rookies in slowly - so he might try to do what he did with Carlos Rogers last year. Rogers opened the season as the nickel, but as he realized that Walt Harris blew chocolate starfish, he started playing Rogers. And Rogers did real well.

Same thing goes here, I think. We'll start off with Clemons and Holdman competing for the job. If they stink, Rocky will get in there a lot. But I don't see GW signing Seau unless he thinks it's a major upgrade over what he has. It's not what we have at the position NOW that matters. It's what GW thinks we're GOING to have come midseason. It's Rocky's spot, it's just GW is going to take some time to hand it to Rocky. And Seau is not going to get signed just to be another body along the line.

This coaching staff likes to promote players from within when possible. They're going to let the current LBs battle it out until Rocky takes over.[/quote]

Just to elaborate on your point about GW bringing his rookies along slowly, Rogers also had injury problems in the preseason which undoubtedly slowed his development and hindered the trust factor.

If Rocky stays injury free I can see him working his way into the lineup much quicker than Rogers did.

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Right, because wasn't Taylor starting by the 3rd or 4th game?

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[quote=ChillWill]I'd rather see the money spent for OL help.[/quote]

Thats exactly what I was thinking prior to reading your response. Can we get some freaken depth at O line. Has anyone seem any noteable cuts for some veteran OL help.

I think the only thing we need to be looking at with our remaining allowance would be someone to shure up this line in case of an injury. We saw what happened last year when one of our starters went down. The running game was affected dramatically and at times we seemed to be one-dementional.

Lets see what becomes available here.

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Let's not forget about McCune. He is in his 2nd year and could emerge. The only positive about signing Seau is his leadership qualities. He could be a very energizing influence in the locker room. But maybe not worth the price tag.

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Speaking of aging LBer's, let's pause for a moment and reflect upon the stellar career of Monte Coleman.... okay! Now about "Say-ow": We don't require his services. having said that I'm not going to be upset if we sign him. We've done worse, way worse.

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Sign him, Hopefully he won't be the next Bruce Smith. he can school young Rocky!

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it'd be a good move. right now we have no one that's gauranteed to be all that great, though either clemons and mcintosh can HOPEFULLY get it done.

as a reserve he could be like ray brown for our LB corp.

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couldn't hurt mcintoshes develpoment. I have NEVER heard an ill word about Jr.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]At least he would give Salva'a some one to click with.

On a serious note, I really hope this isn't true because it just seems like the type of signing we would have made six or seven years ago. I hear the name "Deion" whispering in the wind when I read that we are possibly in talks with an old veteran who won't have any long term impact.[/quote]

Deion, Bruce, Carrier et al were at the end of their careers but we paid em big. Just by the timing of this rumor its unlikely seau will get much if anything beyoned the minimum.
btw, Deion actually played above avg. here just not up to his past. If Seau can play that well, start an entire 16 game season, for vet. min. $, he would be a bargain. I don't think he's every down material at all, but he may be tough against the run. If GW thinks we need the depth, sign him cheap.

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I'd be fine with the signing. He's been a great player, he has a ton of experience that will help with the development of our young players, he's unselfish, a team player like Gibbs wants and he'd have a chance to close out his career with a Super Bowl win with the Skins.

As long as he's not too expensive, I don't see any reason NOT to sign him.

Quality depth is never a bad thing.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]At least he would give Salva'a some one to click with.

On a serious note, I really hope this isn't true because it just seems like the type of signing we would have made six or seven years ago. I hear the name "Deion" whispering in the wind when I read that we are possibly in talks with an old veteran who won't have any long term impact.[/quote]Its totaly different than the signings we did 6 or so years ago. Back then we would bring in these Vets and give them hugh 3 to 5 year contracts. Thats what we need to avoid doing again. If Gibbs and Company think they could bring him in for 1 yr small contract and they could get a value from him than I trust what they think. It would kind of be what we did with Ray Brown last year he was a mentor and when we need him he did his job well for us.

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Is he a free agent? If he would go for vet minimum, it makes me wonder why the dolphins wouldn't pick him up themselves if he was even worth that...

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[quote=BigSKINBauer]Is he a free agent? If he would go for vet minimum, it makes me wonder why the dolphins wouldn't pick him up themselves if he was even worth that...[/quote]that was my first thought, maybe he doesn't want to play for miami anymore. i cant say i blame him

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I would not like the signing as it would just remind me of the 2000 signings. I know it would be a little different circumstancially, but I think its best if we let the guys develop. I think we have a good enough defense where if they make some mental mistakes, it wont KILL the team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but dosent Seau play inside linebacker?

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If we do have left over Cap money, I would rather the Skins spend it on a veteran back up Guard since Thomas is stll recovering.
An extra veteran back up Cornerback would also be better pick up than yet another LB.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I would not like the signing as it would just remind me of the 2000 signings. I know it would be a little different circumstancially, but I think its best if we let the guys develop. I think we have a good enough defense where if they make some mental mistakes, it wont KILL the team. Correct me if I'm wrong, but dosent Seau play inside linebacker?[/QUOTE]

he's an olb and I for one wouldn't be upset if it's just a bit over the vet min. cuz he'd be a reliable player if healthy who has always been a strong locker room leader. even @ his age, if healthy I'd rather him be playing while Rocky is working his way into the spot instead of Holdman. He would definitely be another spark splug of energy for our defense.

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I wouldn't be upset over this signing but I'd rather see the $$ spent on proven, reliable OL depth but whos out there? If GW and Gibbs want him I'll trust their judgement.

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I say pass, he's old and i like the players we have.

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if greg williams and the boys can get antonio pierce and lemar marshall to play at pro bowl caliber, and macintosh is alot better player at this stage of his career. just say no to seau, too old and almost finished

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We drafted two Lb's, signed one as an undrafted free agent, resigned Holdman to go along with Clemons and Mc Cune. Don't think we should be looking in that direction to inhibit the growth of our young players. Seau is older than dirt and I just don't see him bringing that much to the table at this point in his career.

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greater team talent is better than lesser team talent. You can always get better and he could be a reserve "just in case" all the other question marks at LB don't pan out or lemar gets hurt.

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i would only want him for vet minimum

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz]At least he would give Salva'a some one to click with.[/QUOTE]
It took me like a minute. You magnificent bastard.

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You know if he comes, Gibbs will use him wisely and it vcertainly would not hurt our young linebacking corps to learn form a future hall of famer (do most here agree with that?). Don't break the bank, but I only see it as a plus.