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Looking at the draft and free agency moves this year, the power has shifted to the NFC. More nfc teams are looking to be contenders than ever. panthers, giants, skins, i expect the falcons, vikings, bucs, cowboys, maybe even the bears to be pushing hard for playoff spots. But in the end I really think the giants are the team to worry about b/c they seem to be par with the skins for the division, which sucks. What do you guys think?

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I do think that the giants are our biggest contender for the division title, but you honestly think that the vikings will be pushing for a playoff spot over the bears? you do remember that the bears were the #2 seed last year in the playoffs? You make it sound as if last year was a fluke for the bears. I think that the bears will be hard to beat, esp. now that they have a decent QB in Greise(SP)...

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The bears had and have a joke of a schedule. I don't think the bears are ALL that and a bag of potato chips but they are definately a playoff team. I would rank them, errr, 6th in the conference. The NFL is weak. I said this in another thread. It just doesn't feel like any team is crazy good. The Colts will be weaker this year. I think Arizona will be stronger. The bengals will be good. Steelers again though their offseason has been pretty goofy. Carolina will make another good fight. I expect the seahawks to fall like every other super bowl loser does. This division is the light in the NFL.

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Who are your 6 out of the nfc bsb?
mine are....
1.seattle
2.washington
3.chicago
4.tampa bay
5.n.o.
6.dallas

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1 Washington
2 CAR
3 NYG
4 DAL
5 PHI
6 TB

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Seattle won't roll like last year but they don't have to play NFC east do they? So we might see SEA in the 1st rounder!?!??!

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[quote=Luxorreb]1 Washington
2 CAR
3 NYG
4 DAL
5 PHI
6 TB[/quote]i meant playoff 6. not just top 6 in the conference.
you cant have all 4 teams from one division make the playoffs, at the most you can have 3.

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Playoffs

Chicago- Joke schedule.
Skins
Seahawks- they will lose three to the AFC west.
Carolina
Giants
Cowboys

Top 6
Skins-Skins rule.
Giants-Tie with skins skins got better division record
Car-Wins division
Dallas-Tie breaker with Tampa to make it in
Tampa they will be served atleast 3 losses from our division+2 from their own.
Eagles-Don't make the playoffs. Too bad so sad.

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Though I certainly hope the winner comes from the NFC (specifically, us), I think the biggest mover in free agency and the surprise AFC contender may be from the AFC North - Cleveland. They made some big strides in FA, signing Willie McGinest, LeCharles Bentley, and Joe Jurevicius, among others. They'll also see the return of noted haed case Kellen Winslow II from injury, and had a good draft defensively - signing Kamerion Wimbley and D'qwell Jackson.

Whether they'll slingshot past Cincinnati and Pittsburgh - who both have QB health issues - is yet to be determined. But I'd keep an eye on them.

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I don't think anything has shifted until the actual games begin and we see who the best teams are. Last year the AFC was clearly the stronger conference, we'll see about this year.

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I am a skins fan in ND but I do have some friends who are Viking fans and looking at their schedule they should win 11-12 games this year. That being said I think they win their division over the bears.

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[QUOTE=skinshomer]I am a skins fan in ND but I do have some friends who are Viking fans and looking at their schedule they should win 11-12 games this year. That being said I think they win their division over the bears.[/QUOTE]
Wow.

I'd say that the closest thing to a guarantee I can make is that the Vikings won't see the sunny side of .500 ball. A new coach with a new system, an aging QB, no dominant RBs or WRs - these are not the ingredients for a championship. The only belssing they have is they are playing in the weakest division in football - and with the NFC West still out there, that's saying something.

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[quote=BrudLee]Wow.

I'd say that the closest thing to a guarantee I can make is that the Vikings won't see the sunny side of .500 ball. A new coach with a new system, an aging QB, no dominant RBs or WRs - these are not the ingredients for a championship. The only belssing they have is they are playing in the weakest division in football - and with the NFC West still out there, that's saying something.[/quote]


Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

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I think the original statement was that the NFC is better now than the AFC (hence, "The NFC will win the Super Bowl.")

Is anyone forgetting about a few AFC teams who have won a game or two recently? The Colts, Steelers and Bengals are rock solid teams, Miami was going on a rampage the last half of last season, you can never count out the Patriots and from a simple talent standpoint you can't count out the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos.

The NFC has some great defenses and some great wide receivers, but the AFC seems stacked with QBs and RBs.

I'm not making an argument one way or another really, just saying it seems a bit silly to just say the AFC is faltering or not competition anymore.

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Oh, and last season 6 of the top 10 teams in total offense were AFC teams, and 5 of the top 7 were AFC teams.

The AFC isn't about to roll over and die.

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My picks for the NFC:
1. WAS
2. CAR
3. TB
4. NYG
5. CHI
6. SEA

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1. Washington - a team on the rise last year did the most to improve
2. Seattle - the losing the SB jinx is no reason to discount them. And I think that teams with a metropolitan area and fan base that are wildly enthusiastic and hungry for success really make a difference in motivation for a team. A dangerous team in my opinion.
3. Carolina - the NFC runner up has done a lot to improve.
4. Chicago - will likely win their division
5. Dallas - the addition of Owens adds a dimension to their offense that should propel them into the playoffs.
6. N.Y. Giants - the defending division champs look stronger than the rest for a wild card to me.

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[quote=paulskinsfan]Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.[/quote]

Am I the only one that thinks the lions could finally be decent this year? With Mike Martz controlling their offense and Kitna at the helm of those receivers, I think their offense could finally be dangerous.

Not as intense as the offensive explosion that will come out of our nation's capital though!

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and they don't have joey harrington to blame all of their problems on.

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1. Washington - don't really have to explain this one
2. Carolina - really good last year with only one threat on offense, now they got DeAngelo Williams and Keyshawn
3. Chicago - great defense, offense should improve with Griese (he'll start eventually), easy schedule, weak division
4. Arizona - They will barely win a weak division, they have a great offense, a good defense (ranked 8th last year), and seattle will fall apart

Wild Card:
5. New York - Eli will improve, Barber will get worse because of his age, they're defense should improve (it was getting better at the end of last year until all of their linebackers got hurt)
6. Tampa Bay - Chris Simms showed he's good enough to lead the team last year and they still have a great defense


Dallas won't make it because the rest of the division and conference is too good. One player can't help the team that much. They weren't even that good last year. Their o-line isn't that good. If Bledsoe gets hurt, they are completely screwed.

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i still dont th ink eli is going to improve...

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Agreed. The Vikings will be lucky to get over .500 this year for all the reasons you've stated. The Bears rule this division, the Vikes could be looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.[/QUOTE]
The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.

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[quote=skinshomer]The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.[/quote]
Johnson is even older than Brunell, they got a new coach who will probably suck, they got rid of their franchise quarterback, and they don't really have any receivers. All Brad Childress does is be gay and complain about Culpepper. They drafted Tarvaris Jackson, who blows, with their second round pick, when Kellen Clemens, Brodie Croyle, and Charlie Whitehurst were still there. I don't see how they expect him to be the QB of the future, when he is crap and will never be good.

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[quote=skinshomer]The Bears were the luckiest team last year. Also don't forget that Minnesota was picked to go to the Super Bowl last year. They were one game from making the playoffs last year. Minnesota made some improvements over the off season. While other teams in their division didn't. Yeah Brad Johnson is old but so is Brunelle. I just think we need to be fair when accessing other teams.[/quote]

HaHaHaHa yes i do recall them being picked last year by some sports writers, but that was along time ago, the team is far different than it was a year ago, they lost there starting qb, there starting running back, there head coach, one of the starting wide recievers and had one of the worse drafts in the nfl this year. Now not to say that their division isint up in they air, but to say minnesota is going to be alot better, i'd say to you green bay and chicago both had better off seasons, but either way it dont matter because nobody in the nfc north is going to qin the superbowl anyway.

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[quote=PWNED]i still dont th ink eli is going to improve...[/quote]whats with him constantly throwing off his back foot? he doesn't seem to have as strong an arm as peyton. could be cause the wind in the meadowlands is wicked strong but still, he throws some real ducks.

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[QUOTE=mheisig]I think the original statement was that the NFC is better now than the AFC (hence, "The NFC will win the Super Bowl.")

Is anyone forgetting about a few AFC teams who have won a game or two recently? The Colts, Steelers and Bengals are rock solid teams, Miami was going on a rampage the last half of last season, you can never count out the Patriots and from a simple talent standpoint you can't count out the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos.

The NFC has some great defenses and some great wide receivers, but the AFC seems stacked with QBs and RBs.

I'm not making an argument one way or another really, just saying it seems a bit silly to just say the AFC is faltering or not competition anymore.[/QUOTE]
The Colts let a HOF caliber back go in James. The Steelers had measurable FA losses and lost a locker room leader in Bettis. The Bengals starting QB had the second worst knee injury of the year. Miami's [u]new[/u] QB had a catastrophic knee injury that will likely forever change him as a QB. The Patriots lost several key free agents, and expect one of the dancing Grammatica brothers to replace the clutchingest kicker of all time. The Chargers will be relying on a QB who has thrown all of thirty regular season passes. The Chiefs new offensive coordinator has never coached a "skill position" (sorry, offensive linemen). The Broncos may be the team to beat here, but the vaunted running game has been declining steadily since o-line guru Alex Gibbs left for Atlanta (top rusher Mike Anderson ran for only 1014 regular season yards, and left for the Ravens).

Now, the same arguments can be made about any team in either conference. There's always some loss. I think the two conferences are a lot more even than the media (or the stats) suggest. I would say that the potential contenders who improved themselves the most are in the NFC, though.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]The Colts let a HOF caliber back go in James. The Steelers had measurable FA losses and lost a locker room leader in Bettis. The Bengals starting QB had the second worst knee injury of the year. Miami's [u]new[/u] QB had a catastrophic knee injury that will likely forever change him as a QB. The Patriots lost several key free agents, and expect one of the dancing Grammatica brothers to replace the clutchingest kicker of all time. The Chargers will be relying on a QB who has thrown all of thirty regular season passes. The Chiefs new offensive coordinator has never coached a "skill position" (sorry, offensive linemen). The Broncos may be the team to beat here, but the vaunted running game has been declining steadily since o-line guru Alex Gibbs left for Atlanta (top rusher Mike Anderson ran for only 1014 regular season yards, and left for the Ravens).

Now, the same arguments can be made about any team in either conference. There's always some loss. [B]I think the two conferences are a lot more even than the media (or the stats) suggest.[/B] I would say that the potential contenders who improved themselves the most are in the NFC, though.[/QUOTE]

That was exactly my point ;)