Peter King apology
 

I think sometimes in this business, we get bad information, and we get it from people we think are reliable, but that is no excuse if we run with it. Such was the case last week. I can find no corroborating evidence that first-round pick Sean Taylor wants out of Washington. I apologize to the Redskins faithful who got very nervous over the note I ran last week, and to Taylor.

here's the link: [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/05/17/king.mmqb/index.html[/url]

So he had no evidence, yet he writes it anyways? I thought reporters were supposed to check their facts?

Eh, who am I kidding, 'reporters' no linger exist, just 'talking heads' :cheeky-sm

He took the info from one person and didn't/couldn't find confirmation for the story. He's not the first person to do so and he won't be the last.

I particularly hate the way he buried his retraction/ apology near the bottom of a long article. It took me several minutes to find it and I knew it was there.
I also would not call Peter King, John Clayton or Chris Mortensen reporters. Half the time they are reporting rumor as fact. More than half the time their rumor is wrong.
They are "dimwit" gossip columnists who probably live in the sticks. :laughing-

What a fool. I particularly like his "theory" of how he can pick super bowl winners by the number of losses the year before.
I don't think that his joker puts any analysis whatsoever into anything he writes.

And to think we got in a huge flame-war over this knuckle-head! Well, someone (and you know who you are!) owes the board an apology. If King himself is willing to retract, so should you. :twocents:

I'm more insulted by his claim that we got nervous. I didn't, I had a feeling he was wrong.

Cloning MMQB --- The 4 Things I Think I Think
 

[b][size=3]Cloning MMQB --- The 4 Things I Think I Think


[/size][/b]1.) One thing is definitely true that Peter-Liar-King has written numerous negatively slanted articles about Redskins over the years.

Why is that? --- Answer: Peter-Liar-King of New Jersey [b]has deep seated envy[/b] toward Redskins and he is a diehard Giants fan. --- Peter-Liar-King was/is deeply disappointed that the bumbling Giants GM Accorsi didn't take Sean Taylor and sold the farm to get Eli Manning.

2.) Peter-Liar-King must evil-mindedly think that if you can [b]not have[/b] Sean then let's [b]destroy[/b] Sean.

3.) SI magazine sales in Redskins nation is suddenly dropping big time, and the SI editors forced peter-Liar-king to apologize for the malicious rumor on Sean Taylor.

4.) Come next year, peter-Liar-king will always [b][font=Arial]vote[/font][font=Arial] against[/font][/b] Art Monk in the HoF as he has done [font=Arial][b]relentlessly[/b][/font] all these years.

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[QUOTE=GibbssbbiG][b][size=3]Cloning MMQB --- The 4 Things I Think I Think


[/size][/b]1.) One thing is definitely true that Peter-Liar-King has written numerous negatively slanted articles about Redskins over the years.

Why is that? --- Answer: Peter-Liar-King of New Jersey [b]has deep seated envy[/b] toward Redskins and he is a diehard Giants fan. --- Peter-Liar-King was/is deeply disappointed that the bumbling Giants GM Accorsi didn't take Sean Taylor and sold the farm to get Eli Manning.

2.) Peter-Liar-King must evil-mindedly think that if you can [b]not have[/b] Sean then let's [b]destroy[/b] Sean.

3.) SI magazine sales in Redskins nation is suddenly dropping big time, and the SI editors forced peter-Liar-king to apologize for the malicious rumor on Sean Taylor.

4.) Come next year, peter-Liar-king will always [b][font=Arial]vote[/font][font=Arial] against[/font][/b] Art Monk in the HoF as he has done [font=Arial][b]relentlessly[/b][/font] all these years.

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Word.

well, well, well, King was wrong?!

Where's drkstar??

LOL

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]well, well, well, King was wrong?!

Where's drkstar??

LOL[/QUOTE]


Matty, didn't you learn anything from last week's war? PETER KING IS NEVER WRONG. Even when he's wrong he's really right, because eventually he will correct himself, thereby making himself right. Right? :pi_lightb

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]Word.[/QUOTE]
Hello BleedBurgundy. --- Please explain what do you mean by "Word"? --- Thanks.

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I was just kidding around. It means I agree with you. Kind of like saying "exactly."

here I am guys.

I am not even going to represent my feelings on his apology and retraction. Somewhere lost in the translation was the fact that I trusted Peter King more so then most of you. If that makes you smarter then me, so be it.

I said in the thread that proceeded this on I was wrong from taking shots at Brud and showed a lack of restraint in doing so. Brud Lee, I am sincerely sorry for being an asshole to you.

As for the rest of you "pile on'ers", I owe you nothing in my book. Most of you think I am a jerk anywho and the members who did not have an opinion of me will not care what I write here.

MattyK, Smoot.... you guys are what you are and I have grown tired reading both of you and your self righteous ways of moderation. Good luck with your board and I wish you two well. Thanks for keeping the news section up to date. I will continue to read on!

Hail to the Redskins!

Jon

Correct me if I'm wrong drkstar, but you are the one that got the ball rolling with this post:

[quote]It is amazing to me that some of you nimwits think you know more about the pulse of the NFL then Peter King.

The man makes a living writing these columns and is profiled on HBO's Inside the NFL. And you Joe Potatohead from some beach town in Delaware know more about NFL football and/or Sean Taylor then he?!?

I mean, disagree if you want but to discredit his column like you know better then he... just who is the loser in that equation?!?[/quote]

Pretty harsh and a little unnecessary if you ask me. But you did apologize so I give you credit for that.

But if you can't take some friendly ribbing over this than so be it, maybe it would be best if you don't post anymore like you said.

If you're gonna dish it out you have to expect some to come back your way.

Does anyone else hear dueling banjo's starting up?

[QUOTE=Cush]here's the link: [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/05/17/king.mmqb/index.html[/url]

So he had no evidence, yet he writes it anyways? I thought reporters were supposed to check their facts?

Eh, who am I kidding, 'reporters' no linger exist, just 'talking heads' :cheeky-sm[/QUOTE]
what a JERK!!!!

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]Does anyone else hear dueling banjo's starting up?[/QUOTE]

LOL

Better lock this one down.

Drkstar - as one of the "nimwits" and "pile on'ers" who questioned the legitimacy of King's first unsupported statment and took offense at the disrepect you showed (and, apparently, continue to show) to anyone who questioned that statement, I disagree with your conclusion that an apology is not due. Be a man and apologize for the "nimwits" remark.

BTW - I understood that you trusted King's opinion more so than others on this forum (and that you probably continue to do so). It was, however, the insulting manner in which you set forth this attitude that started the flame war and notched up the discussion.

Finally, the gratuitous digs at Smoot and Matty are just unneccessary. If they had been "self-rightously" moderating this forum, you would have been banned quite some time ago. You posts were not deleted, you were allowed to continue to post and you were simply asked to tone down your insults.

No need for me to respond to Drkstar's latest comments, no time either...too busy being self-righteous. Henceforth I shall be referred to as Pope Smootsmack! Kiss my Ring!!!

As for everyone else, I would expect some of my opinions to be questioned just like I hope you expect some of yours to be questioned by me. In that same regard, we should question and debate what the paid media disseminates as well. That's the point of this forum after all isn't it? "Redskins Discussion for the Knowlegable Fan". If we all just agree with each other all the time we gain nothing from this forum and don't become any more knowlegeable than when we signed up. I don't know about the rest of you but since signing up for the warpath I feel like I've learned a lot more about the Redskins among many other things.

So yeah let's continue to debate and disagree but let's do it with tact and class.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]So yeah let's continue to debate and disagree but let's do it with tact and class.[/QUOTE]

Tact and class?? Damn, I am screwed.

Personally, I like the "righteous" moderation on this board.

There are so many BBS where the conversations become ridiculous and obscene arguments between people who have never or will never actually meet one another, and if they did, wouldn't say anything abrasive.

This is a well-balanced and clean BBS and I think the moderators do a fantastic job.

For Your Enlightenment – Drkstar: (I don't mean to enlighten you, hence you can
 

[QUOTE=Drkstar]here I am guys.

MattyK, Smoot.... you guys are what you are and I have grown tired reading both of you and your self righteous ways of moderation. Good luck with your board and I wish you two well. Thanks for keeping the news section up to date. I will continue to read on!
Jon[/QUOTE][font=Arial][font=Times New Roman]For Your Enlightenment – Drkstar: (I don't mean to enlighten you, hence you can call yourself Brightstar) LoL ___ :joke: [/font]


[font=Times New Roman]1.) First of all, I have felt Mattyk72 and Smootsmack have [b]been very reasonable[/b] and they have [b]never been self-righteous[/b] toward anyone or you especially. [/font]

[font=Times New Roman]If they were self-righteous, then you, Drkstar would have been banned by now, and you will have to register back again using the name montclair or [b]cowfardness[/b]. [/font]


[font=Times New Roman]2.) Drkstar, I don't know about you, but I am [b]definitely[/b] so grateful to have Mattyk72 financing this forum using his [b]own[/b] hard earned [b]money[/b]. [/font]


[font=Times New Roman]3.) Because of Mattyk72 Warpath forum, Redskins fans from all over the world like me, BleedBurgundy and you are [b]not isolated.[/b] [/font]

[font=Times New Roman]And, we can enjoy the ability to express our opinions on Redskins and we can interact with other Redskins fans. --- [/font][font=Times New Roman]Those ability to express my opinions and the interactions are priceless to me. [/font]


[font=Times New Roman]4.) Thank God for the present of Mattyk72, Smootsmack and other moderators. --- Why? Because we need their guidance and directions to [b]set the right tone[/b] for this forum. [/font]

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Nice apology Dark star. You are equal part class and wit. You call us nitwits and then accuse us claiming intellectual superiority. You acted like an asshole in the first place and then somehow managed to be even more of an asshole in your apology. You are what you are...asshole!

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Tact and class?? Damn, I am screwed.
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I'd say, Joe! Just kidding, you're one of my favorite sparring partners!

Drkstar - I hardly doubt Pope Smootsmack and King Matty the VIII are self-righteous. They let me speak my often times outlandish type of comments and even respect them by not bashing me TOO hard! I don't want you to stop posting, just watch the hostility. We all have one common denominator in mind, and that's the Redskins. I don't feel as if you should be so blatently hostile. We all get in heated arguments and say things we don't mean, but I feel if I've offended anyone I try to make it up to them if possible.

Not saying you should apologize, but your posts are normally well thought out and a good read, I just wish you could try to lose the hostility.

Yea, Daseal has a good point. If the mods were all bad, Daseal would be ripped on constantly. Who else has the nads to say they love(d) Spurrier. It would be boring if thier wasn't any differences here. And as stated in a previous post, you learn a lot more when you see other fans point of view. I don't know squat compared to most people on this board, so I love being educated on so many things.

jeeze Drkstar and his ilk are like school on saturday ... they defend thier right to express an oppinion in however obnoxious way they want then when the counter argument is put across they stick thier hands over thier ears and retreat into thier caves..

Thing is peter king gets paid alot of money to check what he says at least has a touch ofthe truth ... like has been said though the most insulting thing is he thought Skins faithful would be rattled by unsubstantuated rumours...

If you cannot say anything nice y'know....

Bedlam - he get's paid to try to break a story first. Being fans we want the inside scoop ASAP. He tries to do that, and when you go that route, you will fail from time to time.

And not only that, Kingisn't so much a reporter in the MMQB as a columnist. He's there putting is opinion out. Hell if someone came to me personally and said that Sean Taylor didn't like the Skins and he had a credible reason, I would have believed it. What with dropping his agent after the draft,(a move I have never heard of for a top 5 pick), I thought something was odd didn't you.

He heard a tip it must have made sense and he put it out there. If you notice King started it, "I think..."

And for Defensewins the retraction is in the exact spot the original story was I don't think he buried it near the bottom at all.

True. There is a signifigant difference between a journalist and a columnist. King gets paid to wine about NJ softball and starbusts. We are perhaps holding him to too high a standard.

Sorry I missed this, :silly: I was at AC all weekend for a state bowling tournament, all I have to say is kudos to all here who were smart enough to use your head's and rationalize the king article for what it was, NONESENSE! Yes, just because we don't get paid for our knowledge of football, or the skin's, doesn't mean the guy who landed a paying job to write about such thing's is wiser, sound's like drkstar didn't like the call, so he's taking his ball and he's leaving! :madani:

The guy is a horrible sportswriter, hands down one of the worst ... maybe I've been spoiled by the likes of Boswell, Povitch, Kornheiser, Wilbon, etc., but come on, all that endless crap about his daughter and I think I think, isn't that cute now here's a few rumors ... he's his own biggest fan. I understand the guy has to make a living and my hat's off to him for landing a sweet gig but his articles suck and you don't have to be a maligned Redskins fan to see that.

I'd also like to say a word of support for Matty and to a lesser degree, the other moderators. Personally I'm grateful that this site exists ... I think it's well-run, professional, very informative. Most of the people who post here know what they're talking about, and they are able to disagree, even argue angrily, without openly disrespecting each other or resorting to name-calling. I hope it stays that way. I'm pretty sure this is the best site of its kind.

[QUOTE=Ghost]I'd also like to say a word of support for Matty and to a lesser degree, the other moderators. Personally I'm grateful that this site exists ... I think it's well-run, professional, very informative. Most of the people who post here know what they're talking about, and they are able to disagree, even argue angrily, without openly disrespecting each other or resorting to name-calling. I hope it stays that way. I'm pretty sure this is the best site of its kind.[/QUOTE]
[sarcasm]A lesser degree?

A lesser degree?!? :madani: :madani: :madani: [/sarcasm]

I'm voting Ghost off the island. Lesser degree, huh?

Compared to Matty, yes a lesser degree. No offense, all you guys do a good job.

Throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that got hit always comes up yelping.
lol

Ya'll do a great job...THANKS!
peace

mike

Thanks

Matty, I think we need a best moderator poll! J/K!!!!!!! :D

Keep up the great work, [U][B]ALL[/B][/U] of you, or I will lose my mind during the offseason doldrums.

here here... kudos to all you guys

I for one think King deserves a little credit for having the sack to retract the statement. That is more than most reporters would do. How many times do NFL reporters tell us something that turns out to be completely untrue and it is never mentioned again. I am not a huge King fan, mostly for the way he has blackballed Monk in the HOF voting. However, I think he deserves a little slack on this one.

Yeah I'll give him some credit for admitting to his mistake. I'm still not a big fan of King, but I can at least respect him for admitting when he's wrong.

And to think some losers like us sniffed out the truth right from the get go...

LOL, what do we know anyway??