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I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.

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[quote=That Guy]I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.[/quote]

That guy, you have helped me with my draft thoughts in the past, so I'll give you my two cents on yours. First, I am very interested in you draft because I too am picking 10th in a 10 man league, however we have keepers, so guys like Steven Jackson are already off my board. But I love his upside this year. He could very easily end up being a top 5 RB I think. You drafted very well for upside, which I hope to do as well. I like your WR's (they all could easily do better than they did last year). I like Tatum Bell, and I hope to get Joseph Addai in my draft. Overall you have a very Well rounded team that should be able to weather injuries very well, which is important. You also have several players with significant "upside".

Could you put the draft round numbers by these picks? I am curious as to where you drafted whom.

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It looks to me like he did list it by round. Although I am surprised that Cooley was taken way back in the 12th. I also think that Jackson and Jordan are both slightly better than #10 and #11 so those to two to me are steals.

That Guy, any chance you can post your other teams draft list? Overall, I'd say you hit a homerun but the name of the game is comparison.

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sure, two were auto drafts, 2 eagles fans, a giant fan, 4 of unknown affiliation.

cooley is underrated HEAVILY. if you're not with skins fans, he goes around the 10th. derrick mason is also underrated pretty badly, though he goes in the 5th-6th area.

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I find it very interesting that you could get two pretty good quality QBs sooooooooooo late. I am wondering how high P.Manning and Tom Brady went, because while there is a drop off from Manning to T. Green or Plummer, It is not a whole lot, and you were able to wait until rounds 10 and 11 to get them. Great!

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the difference between them is about 7-10 TDs. manning went #6, palmer and brady in the 3rd, daunte and most others before the 5th (bledsoe, delhomme, etc). the drop off in QBs isn't nearly as bad as RBs or even WRs (though 4 (manning, palmer, bledsoe, and brady) are clearly above the rest). there are just 12-14 decent QBs and most won't waste a 9th on their backup with RB and WR depth to fill. everyone else had a qb by round 5 or 6.

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Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

QB = Trent Green is usually one of the best QBs, usually underrated too. It'll be interesting to see how losing Saunders effects KC, but he should still be good. Plummer is a good BACKUP. I wouldn't trust him to start but you picked a great backup.
QB GRADE = A

RB = I'm really high on S. Jackson, especially with Faulk not being around to steal 3rd-down plays from him. Lamont Jordan is not bad and if he's the best that was available...ok. Oakland as a team isn't dependable for fantasy purposes. They'll need Jordan to suceed though, since their QB situation is horrible. Tatum Bell could end up being better than Jordan, so he's a solid pick, especially in the 6th round. Addai is a big unknown. Williams is a good risk to take for a rookie RB. He should be better than Reggie Bush.
RB GRADE = B

WR = I actually think you have a GREAT group of WRs. Wayne is one of the best and could be better without a great running game in Indy, they may have to pass more. Walker is good and will outplay Lelie by far in Denver. Driver is good when healthy even though his team is bad. Kennison is a great 4th WR and you could probably use him as a #3. Chad Jackson is big, fast and plays for New England. They usually have too many WRs for anyone other than Branch to put up big numbers, but this could be a benefit for a rookie because he may see MORE looks since they spread the ball around so much. WR is the toughest position to get consistency. With RBs, you know they'll carry the ball and QBs handle the ball on every play, but WRs never know how many looks they'll get. There are very few WRs you can count on week-to-week and you found some of them. Good job.
WR GRADE = A

TE = Cooley is one who gets a LOT of looks in the red zone. We'll have to see how his production is affected by not being the 2nd-choice by Brunell this year, but he should be good. Spreading the field out so much by the Smurfs of 2006 might leave him wide open. Finding him so late in the draft is a steal though. I'm guessing all teams waited to get a TE with possibly Gates/Gonzales/McMichael being the usual exceptions.
TE GRADE = B

DEF = You have one of the best.
DEF GRADE = A

K = You have THE best fantasy kicker. If you haven't had Rackers before, you're in for a treat, especially if longer kicks count for more points.
K GRADE = A

OVERALL TEAM GRADE (GPA) = 3.67, A-

Without major injuries, you should have a great season.

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Someone wanted to see the entire draft, so here it is. I'll add a team by team roster in a few.

Round - Team ID - Player - Position - (Player's Team)

Round 1.
01-01 Larry Johnson RB (KC)
01-02 LaDainian Tomlinson RB (SD)
01-03 Shaun Alexander RB (SEA)
01-04 Clinton Portis RB (WAS)
01-05 Tiki Barber RB (NYG)
01-06 Edgerrin James RB (ARI)
01-07 Peyton Manning QB (IND)
01-08 Steve Smith WR (CAR)
01-09 Rudi Johnson RB (CIN)
01-10 Steven Jackson RB (STL)*
Round 2.
02-10 LaMont Jordan RB (OAK)*
02-09 Carnell Williams RB (TB)
02-08 Ronnie Brown RB (MIA)
02-07 Terrell Owens WR (DAL)
02-06 Chad Johnson WR (CIN)
02-05 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
02-04 Willis McGahee RB (BUF)
02-03 Brian Westbrook RB (PHI)
02-02 Larry Fitzgerald WR (ARI)
02-01 Torry Holt WR (STL)
Round 3.
03-01 Domanick Davis RB (HOU)
03-02 Randy Moss WR (OAK)
03-03 Chris Chambers WR (MIA)
03-04 Anquan Boldin WR (ARI)
03-05 Julius Jones RB (DAL)
03-06 Antonio Gates TE (SD)
03-07 Jamal Lewis RB (BAL)
03-08 Carson Palmer QB (CIN)
03-09 Darrell Jackson WR (SEA)
03-10 Reggie Wayne WR (IND)*
Round 4.
04-10 Javon Walker WR (DEN)*
04-09 Hines Ward WR (PIT)
04-08 Roy Williams WR (DET)
04-07 Willie Parker RB (PIT)
04-06 Reggie Bush RB (NO)
04-05 Tom Brady QB (NE)
04-04 Kevin Jones RB (DET)
04-03 Reuben Droughns RB (CLE)
04-02 Plaxico Burress WR (NYG)
04-01 Santana Moss WR (WAS)
Round 5.
05-01 Matt Hasselbeck QB (SEA)
05-02 Warrick Dunn RB (ATL)
05-03 Derrick Mason WR (BAL)
05-04 Donovan McNabb QB (PHI)
05-05 Tony Gonzalez TE (KC)
05-06 Joe Horn WR (NO)
05-07 Corey Dillon RB (NE)
05-08 Chester Taylor RB (MIN)
05-09 Jeremy Shockey TE (NYG)
05-10 Donald Driver WR (GB)*
Round 6.
06-10 Tatum Bell RB (DEN)*
06-09 Daunte Culpepper QB (MIA)
06-08 Thomas Jones RB (CHI)
06-07 Andre Johnson WR (HOU)
06-06 Marc Bulger QB (STL)
06-05 Joey Galloway WR (TB)
06-04 TJ Houshmandzadeh WR (CIN)
06-03 Jason Witten TE (DAL)
06-02 Drew Bennett WR (TEN)
06-01 Reggie Brown WR (PHI)
Round 7.
07-01 Cedric Benson RB (CHI)
07-02 Eli Manning QB (NYG)
07-03 Jake Delhomme QB (CAR)
07-04 Todd Heap TE (BAL)
07-05 Ahman Green RB (GB)
07-06 Deion Branch WR (NE)
07-07 Drew Bledsoe QB (DAL)
07-08 Ron Dayne RB (DEN)
07-09 Deuce McAllister RB (NO)
07-10 Deangelo Williams RB (CAR)*
Round 8.
08-10 Joseph Addai RB (IND)*
08-09 Isaac Bruce WR (STL)
08-08 Muhsin Muhammad WR (CHI)
08-07 Lee Evans WR (BUF)
08-06 PIttsburgh Defense DEF (PIT)
08-05 Braylon Edwards WR (CLE)
08-04 Michael Clayton WR (TB)
08-03 Matt Jones WR (JAC)
08-02 Alge Crumpler TE (ATL)
08-01 Kurt Warner QB (ARI)
Round 9.
09-01 DeShaun Foster RB (CAR)
09-02 Curtis Martin RB (NYJ)
09-03 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
09-04 Laurence Maroney RB (NE)
09-05 Chicago Defense DEF (CHI)
09-06 Dominic Rhodes RB (IND)
09-07 Baltimore Defense DEF (BAL)
09-08 Randy McMichael TE (MIA)
09-09 New England Defense DEF (NE)
09-10 Eddie Kennison WR (KC)*
Round 10.
10-10 Trent Green QB (KC)*
10-09 Laveranues Coles WR (NYJ)
10-08 Carolina Defense DEF (CAR)
10-07 Heath Miller TE (PIT)
10-06 Jerry Porter WR (OAK)
10-05 Keyshawn Johnson WR (CAR)
10-04 Koren Robinson WR (MIN)
10-03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
10-02 Indianapolis Defense DEF (IND)
10-01 Vernon Davis TE (SF)
Round 11.
11-01 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
11-02 Ben Roethlisberger QB (PIT)
11-03 LenDale White RB (TEN)
11-04 Aaron Brooks QB (OAK)
11-05 Frank Gore RB (SF)
11-06 Donte Stallworth WR (NO)
11-07 Nate Burleson WR (SEA)
11-08 Michael Vick QB (ATL)
11-09 Chris Brown RB (TEN)
11-10 Jake Plummer QB (DEN)*
Round 12.
12-10 Chris Cooley TE (WAS)*
12-09 Drew Brees QB (NO)
12-08 Keenan McCardell WR (SD)
12-07 Mike Anderson RB (BAL)
12-06 Byron Leftwich QB (JAC)
12-05 Brett Favre QB (GB)
12-04 Marion Barber RB (DAL)
12-03 Kevin Curtis WR (STL)
12-02 Chris Perry RB (CIN)
12-01 Sam Gado RB (GB)
Round 13.
13-01 Ernest Wilford WR (JAC)
13-02 Mike Vanderjagt PK (DAL)
13-03 Dallas Defense DEF (DAL)
13-04 Cedric Houston RB (NYJ)
13-05 Jason Elam PK (DEN)
13-06 T.J. Duckett RB (ATL)
13-07 Eric Moulds WR (HOU)
13-08 Mark Brunell QB (WAS)
13-09 Adam Vinatieri PK (IND)
13-10 Chad Jackson WR (NE)*
Round 14.
14-10 Neil Rackers PK (ARI)*
14-09 David Carr QB (HOU)
14-08 David Akers PK (PHI)
14-07 Jeff Wilkins PK (STL)
14-06 Shayne Graham PK (CIN)
14-05 Chris Henry WR (CIN)
14-04 Tampa Bay Defense DEF (TB)
14-03 Josh Brown PK (SEA)
14-02 Bobby Engram WR (SEA)
14-01 Jay Feely PK (NYG)
Round 15.
15-01 Philadelphia Defense DEF (PHI)
15-02 Billy Volek QB (TEN)
15-03 Courtney Anderson TE (OAK)
15-04 Ryan Longwell PK (MIN)
15-05 Amani Toomer WR (NYG)
15-06 Marty Booker WR (MIA)
15-07 Kellen Winslow TE (CLE)
15-08 Santonio Holmes WR (PIT)
15-09 Keary Colbert WR (CAR)
15-10 Washington Defense DEF (WAS)*

* = my team

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Round - Team ID - Player - Position - (Player's Team)

Team 1.
01-01 Larry Johnson RB (KC)
02-01 Torry Holt WR (STL)
03-01 Domanick Davis RB (HOU)
04-01 Santana Moss WR (WAS)
05-01 Matt Hasselbeck QB (SEA)
06-01 Reggie Brown WR (PHI)
07-01 Cedric Benson RB (CHI)
08-01 Kurt Warner QB (ARI)
09-01 DeShaun Foster RB (CAR)
10-01 Vernon Davis TE (SF)
11-01 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
12-01 Sam Gado RB (GB)
13-01 Ernest Wilford WR (JAC)
14-01 Jay Feely PK (NYG)
15-01 Philadelphia Defense DEF (PHI)

Team 2.
01-02 LaDainian Tomlinson RB (SD)
02-02 Larry Fitzgerald WR (ARI)
03-02 Randy Moss WR (OAK)
04-02 Plaxico Burress WR (NYG)
05-02 Warrick Dunn RB (ATL)
06-02 Drew Bennett WR (TEN)
07-02 Eli Manning QB (NYG)
08-02 Alge Crumpler TE (ATL)
09-02 Curtis Martin RB (NYJ)
10-02 Indianapolis Defense DEF (IND)
11-02 Ben Roethlisberger QB (PIT)
12-02 Chris Perry RB (CIN)
13-02 Mike Vanderjagt PK (DAL)
14-02 Bobby Engram WR (SEA)
15-02 Billy Volek QB (TEN)

Team 3.
01-03 Shaun Alexander RB (SEA)
02-03 Brian Westbrook RB (PHI)
03-03 Chris Chambers WR (MIA)
04-03 Reuben Droughns RB (CLE)
05-03 Derrick Mason WR (BAL)
06-03 Jason Witten TE (DAL)
07-03 Jake Delhomme QB (CAR)
08-03 Matt Jones WR (JAC)
09-03 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
10-03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
11-03 LenDale White RB (TEN)
12-03 Kevin Curtis WR (STL)
13-03 Dallas Defense DEF (DAL)
14-03 Josh Brown PK (SEA)
15-03 Courtney Anderson TE (OAK)

Team 4.
01-04 Clinton Portis RB (WAS)
02-04 Willis McGahee RB (BUF)
03-04 Anquan Boldin WR (ARI)
04-04 Kevin Jones RB (DET)
05-04 Donovan McNabb QB (PHI)
06-04 TJ Houshmandzadeh WR (CIN)
07-04 Todd Heap TE (BAL)
08-04 Michael Clayton WR (TB)
09-04 Laurence Maroney RB (NE)
10-04 Koren Robinson WR (MIN)
11-04 Aaron Brooks QB (OAK)
12-04 Marion Barber RB (DAL)
13-04 Cedric Houston RB (NYJ)
14-04 Tampa Bay Defense DEF (TB)
15-04 Ryan Longwell PK (MIN)

Team 5.
01-05 Tiki Barber RB (NYG)
02-05 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
03-05 Julius Jones RB (DAL)
04-05 Tom Brady QB (NE)
05-05 Tony Gonzalez TE (KC)
06-05 Joey Galloway WR (TB)
07-05 Ahman Green RB (GB)
08-05 Braylon Edwards WR (CLE)
09-05 Chicago Defense DEF (CHI)
10-05 Keyshawn Johnson WR (CAR)
11-05 Frank Gore RB (SF)
12-05 Brett Favre QB (GB)
13-05 Jason Elam PK (DEN)
14-05 Chris Henry WR (CIN)
15-05 Amani Toomer WR (NYG)

Team 6.
01-06 Edgerrin James RB (ARI)
02-06 Chad Johnson WR (CIN)
03-06 Antonio Gates TE (SD)
04-06 Reggie Bush RB (NO)
05-06 Joe Horn WR (NO)
06-06 Marc Bulger QB (STL)
07-06 Deion Branch WR (NE)
08-06 PIttsburgh Defense DEF (PIT)
09-06 Dominic Rhodes RB (IND)
10-06 Jerry Porter WR (OAK)
11-06 Donte Stallworth WR (NO)
12-06 Byron Leftwich QB (JAC)
13-06 T.J. Duckett RB (ATL)
14-06 Shayne Graham PK (CIN)
15-06 Marty Booker WR (MIA)

Team 7.
01-07 Peyton Manning QB (IND)
02-07 Terrell Owens WR (DAL)
03-07 Jamal Lewis RB (BAL)
04-07 Willie Parker RB (PIT)
05-07 Corey Dillon RB (NE)
06-07 Andre Johnson WR (HOU)
07-07 Drew Bledsoe QB (DAL)
08-07 Lee Evans WR (BUF)
09-07 Baltimore Defense DEF (BAL)
10-07 Heath Miller TE (PIT)
11-07 Nate Burleson WR (SEA)
12-07 Mike Anderson RB (BAL)
13-07 Eric Moulds WR (HOU)
14-07 Jeff Wilkins PK (STL)
15-07 Kellen Winslow TE (CLE)

Team 8.
01-08 Steve Smith WR (CAR)
02-08 Ronnie Brown RB (MIA)
03-08 Carson Palmer QB (CIN)
04-08 Roy Williams WR (DET)
05-08 Chester Taylor RB (MIN)
06-08 Thomas Jones RB (CHI)
07-08 Ron Dayne RB (DEN)
08-08 Muhsin Muhammad WR (CHI)
09-08 Randy McMichael TE (MIA)
10-08 Carolina Defense DEF (CAR)
11-08 Michael Vick QB (ATL)
12-08 Keenan McCardell WR (SD)
13-08 Mark Brunell QB (WAS)
14-08 David Akers PK (PHI)
15-08 Santonio Holmes WR (PIT)

Team 9.
01-09 Rudi Johnson RB (CIN)
02-09 Carnell Williams RB (TB)
03-09 Darrell Jackson WR (SEA)
04-09 Hines Ward WR (PIT)
05-09 Jeremy Shockey TE (NYG)
06-09 Daunte Culpepper QB (MIA)
07-09 Deuce McAllister RB (NO)
08-09 Isaac Bruce WR (STL)
09-09 New England Defense DEF (NE)
10-09 Laveranues Coles WR (NYJ)
11-09 Chris Brown RB (TEN)
12-09 Drew Brees QB (NO)
13-09 Adam Vinatieri PK (IND)
14-09 David Carr QB (HOU)
15-09 Keary Colbert WR (CAR)

Team 10.*
01-10 Steven Jackson RB (STL)*
02-10 LaMont Jordan RB (OAK)*
03-10 Reggie Wayne WR (IND)*
04-10 Javon Walker WR (DEN)*
05-10 Donald Driver WR (GB)*
06-10 Tatum Bell RB (DEN)*
07-10 Deangelo Williams RB (CAR)*
08-10 Joseph Addai RB (IND)*
09-10 Eddie Kennison WR (KC)*
10-10 Trent Green QB (KC)*
11-10 Jake Plummer QB (DEN)*
12-10 Chris Cooley TE (WAS)*
13-10 Chad Jackson WR (NE)*
14-10 Neil Rackers PK (ARI)*
15-10 Washington Defense DEF (WAS)*

* = My team

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I meant to take donte stallworth over eddie kennison, but i just lost focus for a second and went on auto-pilot.

antonio bryant was the best player to go undrafted (and the only undrafted guy of note, i believe). I'll try to get him on waivers and ditch the Wash DEF. after preseason i can look at him compared to chad jackson (rookie WRs are generally a bad bet, even if they're guaranteed starting jobs). Being 10th means i get first dibs on the first waiver wire move.

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[quote=Buster]
QB = Trent Green is usually one of the best QBs, usually underrated too. It'll be interesting to see how losing Saunders effects KC, but he should still be good. Plummer is a good BACKUP. I wouldn't trust him to start but you picked a great backup.
QB GRADE = A

RB = I'm really high on S. Jackson, especially with Faulk not being around to steal 3rd-down plays from him. Lamont Jordan is not bad and if he's the best that was available...ok. Oakland as a team isn't dependable for fantasy purposes. They'll need Jordan to suceed though, since their QB situation is horrible. Tatum Bell could end up being better than Jordan, so he's a solid pick, especially in the 6th round. Addai is a big unknown. Williams is a good risk to take for a rookie RB. He should be better than Reggie Bush.
RB GRADE = B
[/quote]

thanks for the comments, just a few notes:
QB:
trent green gets 4k yards, but only 20 or so TDs (plummer has the exact same problem and can't play in bad weather). I'm hoping (if lelie shuts up) that plummer will have 2 #1s and a good #2 to throw to. otherwise, he'll still be an average FF QB like trent green (but a bit worse). I'm not going to rack up a ton of positive points on QB matchups, but thats the trade off for going heavy on RBs and WRs (which have much steeper drop offs).

RB:
jordan could easily get 1200 yards and 11 tds (what he was on pace for, but he missed 2 games), so he's really not that bad (though he obviously isn't as nice as LJ etc). I probably should have taken C williams (TB) or ronnie brown (MIA), but I'm not sure they'll do as well this year (neither one has good TD prouction and williams had more bad games than good ones). Brown suffered from lack of carries though, so he's still a (promising) unknown. I liked deangelo because d foster can't stay on the field and I think he's a #2 quality back anyways. I liked addai cause manning creates a running game, so whoever you stick in there has a good chance of getting 1,000.

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basically the top 5 picks are scripted:
LJohnson
LTomlinson
SAlexander
CPortis
TBarber

then Edge and Rudi Johnson also go as safe RB picks with peyton and steve smith. the 10th 1st rounder is always an RB, usually lamont jordan or steven jackson, but sometimes its ronnie brown or C williams.

I'd personally take tiki over portis (1.8k vs 1.5k) in non keeper leagues, but portis has more upside this season if everything clicks.

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#2. Jordan my boy outta suitland/ UMD this has to be his breakout year.
#15. Wash Def. smart choice

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[quote=That Guy]I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.[/quote]Very solid grabs in the first two rounds, and I like how you were able to consistently get steals in the late rounds. Cooley in the 12th is highway robbery. Lots O' mediocre receivers though. I know hindsight is 20-20, but maybe you should have grabbed a stud WR with the 2nd pick considering your ability to find quality RBs late. As it is I'm envious of the RB situation you have. At QB, Green is a great seasonal pick as he is a lock for close to 4000 yds.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.[/QUOTE]
I think this is a rather good draft.
You're living on potential at RB but it is a good job of getting some RBs that can actually help you win.

I disagree on WR. You look solid to me. Wayne is superior. Walker is potentially superior. Driver is a main option and Kennison is a real steal at 9. Short on depth but from 10 you did real good. You can probably trade one of your potentialized backs for solid WR depth in the first few weeks after injuries mount elsewhere in your league.

You're living large at TE, K and D.

I applaud this one.

As an aside. I have done analysis of every league I have ever been in(in football) and have realized that picking the sandwhich is almost a death kill. On average in my leagues(19 of them) the sandwhich pick finishes over 2 standard deviations below the mean and has never finshed better than fourth(14 team league). The only time it wasn't totally a death kill was in a 14 team league where it was split into divisions. The guy who ended up fourth was in the weaker division that had a losing record against the other division. He finished 1st in that division becuase he had no injuries and his divison fell apart.

Translation: sandwhich pick sucks.

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[quote=FRPLG]

As an aside. I have done analysis of every league I have ever been in(in football) and have realized that picking the sandwhich is almost a death kill...

Translation: sandwhich pick sucks.[/quote]

when i hear sandwich I think the #5 pick, but you mean the #10 right? does the #1 tend to win? this year every #1 seems to get LJ, holt/r moss (user choice) and D Davis to start, and usually ends up with shockey in the 5th as well... that's for 10 man leagues though.

I do get first waiver wire and antonio byrant is undrafted. I can drop Wash D and pick him up until i have to make a choice in week 1. i think he's a lock for 800-1k yards even with the crap 49ers. I'm worried about TD production though.

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Yeah I mean the last pick in the first round.

In fact if you take a total point production from a previous year the 10(or12 or 14 or whichever depending on league size) always has the lowest total.

Just from looking through and doing some subjective analysis I think it has to do with the propensity for the 10 pick to reach. Usually the top RBs are gone by 7 or 8 and then a top WR goes and the top QB. At 10 you have at best a top WR or a second tier RB and inevitably everyone always grabs the RB and immediately puts themselves in a hole. This year and to some degree last year are a little different in that there are a few more good RBs to be had around 10 so maybe the trend is swaying.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]when i hear sandwich I think the #5 pick, but you mean the #10 right? does the #1 tend to win? this year every #1 seems to get LJ, holt/r moss (user choice) and D Davis to start, and usually ends up with shockey in the 5th as well... that's for 10 man leagues though.

I do get first waiver wire and antonio byrant is undrafted. I can drop Wash D and pick him up until i have to make a choice in week 1. i think he's a lock for 800-1k yards even with the crap 49ers. I'm worried about TD production though.[/QUOTE]
Will you lose Wass's D if you drop them? Even without knowing your D scoring I would think the dropoff from Wash to whoever else is there might be precipitous. Maybe not though.

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[quote=FRPLG]Will you lose Wass's D if you drop them? Even without knowing your D scoring I would think the dropoff from Wash to whoever else is there might be precipitous. Maybe not though.[/quote]

Due to lack of turnover's, Washington's D has never yielded very good fantasy production. They are usually middle of the pack (only as far as fantasy goes). If they can produce more turnover's then they could be a top fantasy defense but until then...

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Due to lack of turnover's, Washington's D has never yielded very good fantasy production. They are usually middle of the pack (only as far as fantasy goes). If they can produce more turnover's then they could be a top fantasy defense but until then...[/QUOTE]
Yeah but TOs are pretty variable. I like to take good defenses and hope they simply have a good TO year.

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[quote=FRPLG]Yeah but TOs are pretty variable. I like to take good defenses and hope they simply have a good TO year.[/quote]

True. This is why I change Defenses quite frequently based on matchups. Rookie/inexperienced QB's = higher probability for INT for any team.

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[quote=FRPLG]Yeah I mean the last pick in the first round.

In fact if you take a total point production from a previous year the 10(or12 or 14 or whichever depending on league size) always has the lowest total.

Just from looking through and doing some subjective analysis I think it has to do with the propensity for the 10 pick to reach. Usually the top RBs are gone by 7 or 8 and then a top WR goes and the top QB. At 10 you have at best a top WR or a second tier RB and inevitably everyone always grabs the RB and immediately puts themselves in a hole. This year and to some degree last year are a little different in that there are a few more good RBs to be had around 10 so maybe the trend is swaying.[/quote]

This is an interesting observation and study FRPLG. I have that sandwich pick this year, because I won our league and we are doing our draft based on last year's finish. However, we are doing a 2 player "non-last year 1st round" Keeper league. (It means you can keep two players from last year who were not picked in the first round). I am keeping Portis and A. Boldin. So I feel like I already have a top 5 RB, but you are right in that I will be looking at "best available" when my picks come. Unfortunately, other non-1st rounders who are being kept are guys like L.J.(total stinker) Steven Jackson, Ronnie Brown, C. Williams. By the time my number 10 pick comes, I will be looking at RBs 10-15, so I may have to go Manning or C. Johnson or somthing with that pick.

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One thing is for sure. Every draft is totally different. Outside the first round it is hard to predict how a draft will unfold. Knowing your fellow drafters is a big advantage since the name of the game is basically information.

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jacksonville D, cards, etc are untaken. the difference between whatever Ds i'm picking from wont be a big deal. i used the last pick of the draft on wash D, meaning no one else wanted them.

last year the bengals (not a good D) and chicago D took me a long way and both were uncontested week 2 pickups (in different leagues).