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TheMalcolmConnection 07-26-2006 10:05 AM

Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Just wondering if anyonen else is worried about the opening day game like I am. Sure, the Vikings lost their #1 WR in free agency, but they have the best guard in the game coming over, right next to a Pro Bowl center in Birk. The running game shouldn't be too bad.

Their defense has also been steadily improving over the years. In addition, they added Chad Greenway in the draft who should contribute immediately. For some reason, I don't think this will be the blowout many of us are predicting. Thoughts?

12thMan 07-26-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I think this is a team we should beat. I don't think they are pushovers, but Brad J. has to be close to empty in the gas tank.
I see us pounding the ball for like 180 yds.

TheInspector 07-26-2006 10:18 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I admit that Brad Johnson is old, but he is a late bloomer of sorts. We must not forget that he won a superbowl, and with protection he can be a dangerous quarterback to face.

I still think we'll win the game...there have been too many changes for the vikes in the offseason.

gibbsisgod 07-26-2006 10:31 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
We will win the game but don't expect a blowout. The Vikes will be ready to show that all of the distactions of the last few seasons are behind them. They will play hard and give us a good game but we have way too many weapons and I dont think their d is the stong point on that team.


on a side note, I heard BJ might hold out. he will be the lowest paid starting qb in the league. I dont think thats right being that he is a SB winning QB.

cpayne5 07-26-2006 10:43 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
42-0 by the end of the first. :D

TheMalcolmConnection 07-26-2006 10:50 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I think we'll win, but by no means will it be a blowout.

Monkeydad 07-26-2006 10:51 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Let's see...

Brunell vs. Johnson = REDSKINS
Portis/Betts vs. Chester Taylor/Mewelde Moore = REDSKINS
Moss/Lloyd/Randel El/Patten/Cooley vs. Koren Robinson/Travis Taylor/Troy Williamson/Marcus Robinson/Wiggins = REDSKINS
O-Line = REDSKINS
Defense = REDSKINS
Special teams = REDSKINS
John Hall vs. Ryan Longwell = VIKINGS, I'll give them this one!

ArtMonkDrillz 07-26-2006 10:52 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I get nervous about every game, in fact I get really nervous before some games because I feel like I'm not nervous enough. I guess I'm just a worrier, that's probably why my friends call me whiskers.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-26-2006 10:53 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=cpayne5]42-0 by the end of the first. :D[/quote]
Half or quarter? ;)

scowan 07-26-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
We are at home, in a season opener on national TV and FIRED UP!!!

I think the Skins win, but it may be closer than you think. Chester Taylor was a good pick up at RB. I think he will be a pleasant surprise for them this year.

12thMan 07-26-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=Buster]Let's see...

Brunell vs. Johnson = REDSKINS
Portis/Betts vs. Chester Taylor/Mewelde Moore = REDSKINS
Moss/Lloyd/Randel El/Patten/Cooley vs. Koren Robinson/Travis Taylor/Troy Williamson/Marcus Robinson/Wiggins = REDSKINS
O-Line = REDSKINS
Defense = REDSKINS
Special teams = REDSKINS
John Hall vs. Ryan Longwell = VIKINGS, I'll give them this one![/quote]

Buster, that looks real good on paper but that's why they line between the white lines my man. But your point is well taken!

paulskinsfan 07-26-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
The only reason Im nervous is that I think it will take a few weeks for the players to become confortable in Saunders offense.

ArtMonkDrillz 07-26-2006 10:57 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=paulskinsfan]The only reason Im nervous is that I think it will take a few weeks for the players to become confortable in Saunders offense.[/quote]
...and in the meantime the vikes defense may have figured out how to play up to their expectations.

BrudLee 07-26-2006 10:58 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I'm willing to take the players off of the board for this one.

Match up the coaches in this case. While Childress may turn out to be a very good coach, he'll be sitting at the grownup's table for the first time ever, matched against an offensive coordinator with more head coaching experience, a defensive coordinator with more head coaching experience, an offensive line coach with more head coaching experience, and inarguably one of history best head coaches. They will be in a stadium [u]full[/u] of Redskins fans (since the Vikings aren't exactly a traveling fan base), who will be Monday Night loud.

The Vikings will require perfection from themselves and mistakes from their opponents to win this if personnel was even.

OK, now put the players back on the table.

Jesus. Our guys are a lot better than their guys.

Redskins by 14.

Hail2theskins 07-26-2006 11:03 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Im with yall im nervous come every game we play, but thats part of the excitement of watching if i were to go in thinking wed blowout every team then id just be even more pissed off when we lost, you just gotta remember on any given sunday anything can happen...

12thMan 07-26-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
The only games that really make me nervous are divisonal games. Don't care how bad or good the NFC EAST is, usually those games could go either way.

That Guy 07-26-2006 11:09 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
skin and not that close... too many changes in vikings land.

BDBohnzie 07-26-2006 11:09 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I can't see the Skins losing an opening, Monday night game, against a team like the Vikings. Not saying it won't happen, just can't see it going down like that.

cpayne5 07-26-2006 11:11 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Half or quarter? ;)[/QUOTE]
Quarter.

jamf 07-26-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
It's scary to play a team like the Vikes. We don't know what to gameplan for...
It's going to be alot closer than what everyone is expecting.

12thMan 07-26-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=jamf]It's scary to play a team like the Vikes. We don't know what to gameplan for...
It's going to be alot closer than what everyone is expecting.[/quote]

Trust me they are in the same boat in that regard. We'll be lining up at least 4 or 5 new guys. Besides, that early in the season neither team has much game film to go on.

dblanch66 07-26-2006 11:37 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
TDs: Portis, Moss, Cooley, Lloyd
Hall kicks 3 FGs. So...

dblanch66 07-26-2006 11:37 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
37-7 : Ballgame. Skins win.

BrudLee 07-26-2006 11:45 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[QUOTE=12thMan]Trust me they are in the same boat in that regard.[/QUOTE]

Vikings.

Boat.

(snicker)

12thMan 07-26-2006 11:47 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=BrudLee]Vikings.

Boat.

(snicker)[/quote]

hahaha - you caught that.

you genios you!

ArtMonkDrillz 07-26-2006 11:48 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Damn you Brud, you beat me to it, you win this round.

Monkeydad 07-26-2006 11:55 AM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=12thMan]Buster, that looks real good on paper but that's why they line between the white lines my man. But your point is well taken![/quote]

You're right. That's why we have to run up the score so the game doesn't come down to Hall's foot.

jbcjr14 07-26-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I think this will be a very tough game. Our offense will struggle the first couple weeks being a little new.

GTripp0012 07-26-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
The Vikings are the kind of team I would be worried about if this game was midseason. Because this game is at home and because it is opening day, a night game no less, the Skins will win it. (It's also on grass...and the Vikings track record on any grass field that isn't Lambeau would make any Vikings fan puke.) It's also Childress' first game as an HC and they always say how tough it is to win your first one.

724Skinsfan 07-26-2006 12:22 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=GTripp0012]The Vikings are the kind of team I would be worried about if this game was midseason. Because this game is at home and because it is opening day, a night game no less, the Skins will win it. (It's also on grass...and the Vikings track record on any grass field that isn't Lambeau would make any Vikings fan puke.) It's also Childress' first game as an HC and they always say how tough it is to win your first one.[/quote]

The OBC won his first one.

The Skins have a knack for turing every "easy win" game into a challenge. But I think we'll have about a 4 point line on this one.

MTK 07-26-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
The first game of the season always scares me the most. You really have no idea how some teams are going to look, and that goes for the Skins as well.

Are they going to come out firing on all cylinders? Will they struggle early on to find their groove?

GTripp0012 07-26-2006 12:42 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=Mattyk72]The first game of the season always scares me the most. You really have no idea how some teams are going to look, and that goes for the Skins as well.

Are they going to come out firing on all cylinders? Will they struggle early on to find their groove?[/quote]Which is why we were so fortunate to draw a home game vs. the Vikings on opening day. The offense can come out slow, and the Skins can still win pretty easily. Not that the Vikings won't be competitive, but at home, we don't need to play our best football to beat them.

gibbsisgod 07-26-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
GTripp, thats the kind of attitude that could do the skins in on opening day. Lets hope the team doesnt think that way or we all could be saying, "What the hell happened?"

steveo395 07-26-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
You guys talk about us learning a new offense, so are they...and theirs is a lot different from the one they had before. Gregg Williams knows how to stop the eagles offense, so he should be able to stop this one because it is the same thing, but with worse players. We should definitely win, but I'm still worried.

Schneed10 07-26-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Things to consider with the Vikes:

Can Moss and Lloyd perform well against Antoine Winfield and a healthy Fred Smoot? Smooty was hurt last year and had a tough season, but he's a solid player, and healthy again. Luckily their nickel CB sucks, so Randle-El may have opportunities here in the slot.

Do we have the CB depth to match up with Troy Williamson, Koren Robinson, Marcus Robinson, and Travis Taylor? Exactly how good is our nickel, Kenny Wright?

Can our D-line get to Brad Johnson? Their tackles are iffy, but exactly what do we have in Andre Carter?

I'm confident in our offensive line's ability to create holes for Portis. I'm confident Brunell won't make bad decisions. I'm very confident in our return game. And I'm extremely confident in our run defense. But there are concerns when we match up with the Vikes. Luckily the things I feel confident about outweigh the things I'm concerned about.

Redskins 24, Vikings 16

That Guy 07-26-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
those are all junk WRs. our nickel is fine, but not great against speedsters. I wouldn't worry about their passing game too much.

jdlea 07-26-2006 01:19 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
I don't think that any game in the NFL can be considered a definite win. However, I do think the Skins should and will beat the Minnesota Vikings. Chester Taylor doesn't really scare me too much. Niether do the wide recievers on that roster. Defensively, I think they could be solid (middle of the pack) and they have a new coach. Who knows how long it will take them to come together as a team. I don't think this a definite win, but certainly a game they should win.

BrudLee 07-26-2006 01:30 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Kenny Wright was a 16 game starter in Jacksonville for the #6 overall defense (#7 Passing). Yeah, I'll let him sit at the nickel. I'll let him start if Springs is feeling 31 years old.

GTripp0012 07-26-2006 01:33 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
[quote=gibbsisgod]GTripp, thats the kind of attitude that could do the skins in on opening day. Lets hope the team doesnt think that way or we all could be saying, "What the hell happened?"[/quote]You make a good point, but I don't believe they will be taking that attitude into the season. I will, but Gibbs is too good of a coach to allow that to happen.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-26-2006 01:40 PM

Re: Vikings: Pushovers?
 
Exactly. I don't remember the Skins ever looking over-confident last year (maybe the Giants game, but that was such an anomaly.)


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