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Okay I know a lot of people here are probably big college ball fans as well, so how bout a lil ncaa talk... who would be your preseason top 10, heisman candidates etc...

Personally I like
1. ohio state
2. texas
3. WVU
4. norte dame
5. lsu
6. miami
7. usc
8. louisville
9. oklahoma
10. TCU

i can see michael bush, the running back for louisville running away with the heisman this year given the big easts softness, he'll be able to rack up the numbers again this year, that being said, a darkhorse in the same conference in steve slaton... (i may be a little mountaineer bias )

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i hear alot of talk about brady quinn for heisman. and wvu will be real good for the next 3 years at least

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Yeah brady quinn is getting recognition all over the place, thanks in part to what charlie weis did to that offense

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I agree about Quinn. He has a legitimate shot at the Heismann. Despite the fact that I am a self-proclaimed homer, I realistically think Va Tech will be in the top ten.

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did va tech decide glennon will be the starter?



by the way... hokies suck :cheeky-sm

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I'd be shocked if Texas was that good this year. They obviously lost their best player, and now their starting RB wants to transfer. Plus, half their D is gone.
Notre Dame should be pretty nasty. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if Peterson from OU rebounds this year.

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texas also has 2 other backs that combined for like 20 TD's last season, i think they have a lot of talented depth in that area, the biggest concern is definitley QB

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[quote=Hail2theskins]did va tech decide glennon will be the starter?



by the way... hokies suck :cheeky-sm[/quote]

Glennon is the starter....for now. In truth all of the QB's on the roster are fairly equivalent to one another. Beamer's teams have made a lot of average QB's look good.

HAHA! Hokies DO suck but Mountaineers.. [edited due to PETA protestations]

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[quote=724Skinsfan]HAHA! Hokies DO suck but Mountaineers.. [edited due to PETA protestations][/quote]

hahaha, i can see tech being a legitamate top 25 team this year, probably in the top 15, especially with their schedule i would expect nothing short of 9 wins this fall

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[quote=Hail2theskins]hahaha, i can see tech being a legitamate top 25 team this year, probably in the top 15, especially with their schedule i would expect nothing short of 9 wins this fall[/quote]

You're right. Their schedule is so cake. I can't remeber the last time I looked at their schedule and visibly smiled. Miami away is the only tough one. Virginia and BC will be interesting games but neither of those team are cruising along at the same speed as the rest of the ACC.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]Also, I wouldn't be suprised if Peterson from OU rebounds this year.[/quote]

theres been a lot of talk about him and oklahoma this year and i just dont buy it, they went 8-4 in a rebuilding season yes, but their wins were over very soft opponnents they lost to everry decent team they played, the only quality win i give them is over a VERY overrated oregon team

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I meant Peterson individually. He was injured most of last season if I'm not mistaken. He was so good his freshman year that I'd be suprised if it was just a fluke.
I have no idea how OU will do in general.

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[quote=724Skinsfan] Virginia and BC will be interesting games but neither of those team are cruising along at the same speed as the rest of the ACC.[/quote]

BC will take a step back this year, and UVA, come on, even tech cant screw that up... wait... maybe....

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I like Tech, but damn, they've got to learn how to win the big game.

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West Virginia will likley be playing for the national championship because of the weak big east schedule they'll play...and they're a pretty good team.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz]I meant Peterson individually. He was injured most of last season if I'm not mistaken. He was so good his freshman year that I'd be suprised if it was just a fluke.
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true, injury combined with the infamous "sophmore slump"... thats why im worryin about my boy slaton this year, hopin he doesnt fall into that category....

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[quote=Gmanc711]West Virginia will likley be playing for the national championship because of the weak big east schedule they'll play...and they're a pretty good team.[/quote]

actually the soft schedule will hurt them come time for the computer rankings...

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[quote=Hail2theskins]actually the soft schedule will hurt them come time for the computer rankings...[/quote]

They do have a very good team but they are going to need to blow their opponents away every game in order to get championship consideration.

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i like ND, they've probbably got the #1 QB and WR for the 2007 draft on the team. peterson makes oklahoma good if he can rebound (which is likely)...

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peterson plays for oklahoma...

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here are position ratings from NFLdraftscout (i'm omitting the blurbs)

QB:
1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame, 6-4, 230, SR:
Quinn was already considered one of the nation's more gifted quarterbacks before coach Charlie Weis was hired in 2005 to resurrect Notre Dame's proud tradition. The combination of Weis' tutelage and Quinn's natural talents made for a good fit from the start. In 12 starts in 2004, Quinn threw for 2,586 yards and a respectable 17-10 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Last year, however, Quinn was arguably the best quarterback in the country, passing for 3,919 yards and 32 touchdowns compared to only seven interceptions.

Quinn has the classic blend of size, arm strength and tenacity pro scouts are looking for in a franchise quarterback. His ability to adapt so quickly to Weis' complicated offensive scheme speaks volumes about his work ethic and understanding of the game. Quinn enters next season not only as the top-ranked quarterback in the country, but the odds-on favorite to be the first player selected in the 2007 NFL Draft.

2. Drew Stanton, Michigan State, 6-3, 222, SR:
3. Pat White, West Virginia, 6-2, 185, rSO:
4. Jordan Palmer, Texas El-Paso, 6-5, 232, SR:
5. Brian Brohm, Louisville, 6-4, 224, JR:
6. Troy Smith, Ohio State, 6-1, 205, SR:
7. Chad Henne, Michigan, 6-2, 225, JR:
8. Kevin Kolb, Houston, 6-3, 224, SR:
9. Chris Leak, Florida, 6-0, 210, SR:
10. JaMarcus Russell, LSU, 6-5, 252, JR:

RB:
1. 1. Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, 6-2, 218, JR:
Adrian Peterson will claim his status as the nation's top collegiate running back with Reggie Bush off to the NFL. There are some who feel Peterson would have been the top back in the country in 2006 even if Bush had remained with the Trojans for his senior season. Peterson signed with Oklahoma as an elite prep talent, and it didn't take him long to live up to the hype. As a true freshman, Peterson finished with an OU-record 1,925 rushing yards despite starting just eight games. He finished second in the Heisman voting as a true freshman, the highest any freshman has ever ranked in the Heisman polling.

Unfortunately, Peterson was hampered by an ineffective passing offense and injuries in 2005. With quarterback Jason White graduating, the Sooners were led into battle by Rhett Bomar, and opposing defenses were able to crowd the line of scrimmage. That slowed Peterson considerably, and a nagging ankle sprain was even more bothersome. The injury caused Peterson to miss all or more than half of four games in 2005. He still led all Big 12 backs with 1,024 yards and once again earned consensus All-Big 12 honors. He possesses a spectacular combination of size, speed, strength and is a natural, fluid runner who can change directions easily.

2. Michael Bush, 6-2, 248, Louisville, SR:
3. Kenny Irons, Auburn, 5-11, 202, SR:
4. Brian Leonard, Rutgers, 6-2, 235, SR:
5. Marshawn Lynch, California, 5-11, 215, JR:
6. Lorenzo Booker, Florida State, 5-11, 195, SR:
7. Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois, 5-07, 174, SR:
8. Steve Slaton, West Virginia, 5-10, 185, So:
9. Darius Walker, Notre Dame, 5-11, 200, JR:
10. Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern, 5-09, 190, So:

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1. Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech, 6-4, 228, JR:

Already considered by many to be the top wide receiver in the country, Johnson is only entering his junior season. Despite being double-teamed on most snaps, Johnson is still responsible for more than 40 percent of Tech's passing production over the past two seasons. His rare combination of size, strength, hand-eye coordination and acrobatics has drawn comparisons to Larry Fitzgerald and even Cris Carter.

An All-ACC selection each of the past two seasons, Johnson's exploits earned him All-American honors in 2005. Because so many players are relative products of collegiate offenses, it is important to point out that Georgia Tech is hardly a passing powerhouse. In fact, before Johnson arrived, the Yellow Jackets had not produced a wide receiver with any type of All-American honors since Billy Martin was recognized -- in 1963. After just 24 games, Johnson has 102 receptions for 1,725 yards and 13 touchdowns; ranking him seventh in Tech history in career receiving yards, 10th in receptions and tied for sixth in touchdown receptions.

Johnson's opportunities became limited once teams began to increasingly role coverage toward him in 2005. He was held to only four catches over the final two games, losses to Georgia and Utah. Johnson will likely be entering his final collegiate season, as a chance at NFL riches could be too much to pass up.



2. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame, 6-5, 216, SR:

Entering last season, Samardzija was known more for his pitching exploits than for his production on the football field. In fact, before the 2005 season, Samardzija had only 24 career receptions and no touchdowns. Of course, with former New England Patriot offensive coordinator Charlie Weis becoming Notre Dame's head coach and future first-round pick quarterback Brady Quinn coming into his own, the table was set for Samardzija to enjoy a breakout season. Still, no one could have predicted his record-breaking performance -- breaking school records for most receiving yards (1,249) and touchdowns (15) and tying a 35-year-old record for most receptions in a single season (77) previously set by Tom Gatewood.

NFL scouts are intrigued by Samardzija due to his rare combination of size and agility. Though he lacks spectacular speed, Samardzija is deceptively smooth and is at his best with the ball in the air. Like Johnson, Samardzija has rare hand-eye coordination and has shown a knack for making the spectacular reception in tight coverage. The game comes naturally to Samardzija even though his spring practice time is limited due to his commitments as a pitcher for the Irish baseball team. Professional football and baseball scouts are left imagining what this kid could do if he focused on one sport.

3. Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, Ohio State, 6-0, 180, JR:
4. Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC, 6-5, 210, JR:
5. Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina, 6-4, 192, SO:
6. Todd Blythe, WR, Iowa State, 6-5, 210, JR:
7. Jason Hill, WR, Washington State, 6-1, 210, SR:
8. Jarrett Hicks, WR, Texas Tech, 6-3, 210, SR:
9. Greg Olsen, TE, Miami, 6-5, 252, JR:
10. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State, 6-4, 254, JR:

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[quote=Hail2theskins]Okay I know a lot of people here are probably big college ball fans as well, so how bout a lil ncaa talk... who would be your preseason top 10, heisman candidates etc...

Personally I like
1. ohio state
2. texas
3. WVU
4. norte dame
5. lsu
6. miami
7. usc
8. louisville
9. oklahoma
10. TCU

i can see michael bush, the running back for louisville running away with the heisman this year given the big easts softness, he'll be able to rack up the numbers again this year, that being said, a darkhorse in the same conference in steve slaton... (i may be a little mountaineer bias )[/quote]I'm an Irish fan, and I do think they are the best team in the nation, but their schedule is redick. I could see them taking a loss to Michigan or maybe USC. Either way, I have to open with them at no. 1 because they are the best team in the nation, and Ohio State is way overrated losing 9 guys on defense to the draft.

1. ND
2. West Virginia
3. Auburn
4. Ohio State
5. Oklahoma
6. Louisville
7. USC
8. Texas
9. California
10. LSU

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anybody else think samardzija playing pro baseball while in college is ridiculous?? im thinkin some norte dame loophole here

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[quote=GTripp0012]Ohio State is way overrated losing 9 guys on defense to the draft.

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but its jim tressel, he could build a top 10 defense with the cheerleading squad

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[quote=Hail2theskins]but its jim tressel, he could build a top 10 defense with the cheerleading squad[/quote]Which is why they are good every year, not the no. 1 every year.

Ohio State can't be number 1 when they have 9 guys on defense that have never proven jack. No. 4 is me giving Tressel the benefit of the doubt. If a few of these guys can't play, this is a 3-4 loss team, and probably out of the top 25.

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[quote=Hail2theskins]anybody else think samardzija playing pro baseball while in college is ridiculous?? im thinkin some norte dame loophole here[/quote]

Elway did it.

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I dont know about norte dame being number one though, they showed that their defense could be exposed when playing a team of similar caliber, however they are a year better and weis focused more on the D big time during spring...

i just have a hard time putting them in the one spot, i hold a certain amount contempt for ND as they thwarted WV's last shot at a title...

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elway did it? i did not know that, learn something new everyday

i retract my previous statement about smardzija

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[quote=Hail2theskins]I dont know about norte dame being number one though, they showed that their defense could be exposed when playing a team of similar caliber, however they are a year better and weis focused more on the D big time during spring...

i just have a hard time putting them in the one spot, i hold a certain amount contempt for ND as they thwarted WV's last shot at a title...[/quote]My boy Zbikowski will do more than hold down the fort, and hes also one of the best returners in the nation. Everyone knows how good that offense is.

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im sensing a ND WV title bout rematch... this time itll be WV on top

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I'm a homer...Maryland may not win the ACC or anything, but I can see a bowl game in their future.

As much as I can't stand them, it looks like Notre Dame is finally back on top. USC will fare better than Texas this year.

Mark November 2nd on your calendars...the day the Big East will be decided as West Virginia and Louisville meet on Thursday night.

The Big 10 is anyone's guess, I see it coming down to Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State. Look for Ohio State to come out on top...because out of those three, they don't play Notre Dame.

SEC has tons of talent. I forsee the usual suspects (Florida, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Alabama) fighting along with Spurrier's Cocks and Tennessee being dark horses.

The winner of Miami/FSU will decide the winner of their repective division. Look for Va Tech to take Coastal if Miami loses, NC State (weak conference matchups) to win if FSU loses.

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NC state? ive got my money on clemson and BC over NC state to take acc Atlantic if fsu falls short

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Clemson maybe as they play Va Tech, Ga Tech and UNC from the Coastal Division but Boston College plays Va Tech and Miami (and Duke). NC State has Virginia, UNC and Ga Tech from the Coastal.

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[quote=BDBohnzie]Mark November 2nd on your calendars...the day the Big East will be decided as West Virginia and Louisville meet on Thursday night.
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Also mark that night down because it is AMD's Birthday Eve. So you can send the hookers over to my [parent's] house around 9pm.

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you got a basement entrance we send them to...a friend of a friend knows this tranny that...wait, i don't want to ruin the surprise.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz]Also mark that night down because it is AMD's Birthday Eve. So you can send the hookers over to my [parent's] house around 9pm.[/QUOTE]

Fellow scorpio! nice, very nice

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[QUOTE=Hail2theskins]texas also has 2 other backs that combined for like 20 TD's last season, i think they have a lot of talented depth in that area, the biggest concern is definitley QB[/QUOTE]

The defense for UT will be BETTER than last year and YOUNG. Biggest question is at QB. The running back that left, was BOOTED and a trouble maker (Ramonce Taylor). Two big time backs will take the load this year with an offensive line that is all back with the exception of right tackle. Texas is a top 5 team and could be better yet if they can get a W vs. Ohio State the second week of the season in Austin!

Hook em Horns!

I still think that Notre Dame will be very good and Quinn will win the heisman.

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[quote=Hail2theskins]im sensing a ND WV title bout rematch... this time itll be WV on top[/quote]I agree on the title game between a undefeated WVU and an undefeated or maybe one loss ND team. ND would win it though.

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ha slaton and white would embaress ND's secondary just like they did to all american "i want to show these big east freshman SEC football" greg blue