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Come on, you KNOW we had to discuss it eventually. I, for one, was wishing LaVar nothing but the best except when he plays us, now I want his ass to be a total bust for NY. He needs to learn when to shut his fucking mouth.

[I][B]"They let us all go," he said. "You can go further than just me, Ryan [Clark] and Antonio [Pierce]. Go back to Champ [Bailey]. Go back to Stephen Davis. Should I keep going? Go back to Brad Johnson. Even Marty [Schottenheimer]. We would be playing for Super Bowls had they kept Marty. And after [Steve] Spurrier left, that was it for me. [/B][/I]

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blah blah blah

If he's so happy to be moving on why is he still talking about it?

Deep down he's hurt, he knows it. Welcome to the NFL, LaVar, it's a cold business.

'No comment' is so underrated.

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oh yeah, spurrier showed alot of promise?!?!!

davis had what, one good season after he left washington? i guess LA knows best when it comes to how to run a team.

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[quote=Mattyk72]blah blah blah
[I][B]
If he's so happy to be moving on why is he still talking about it?[/B][/I]

Deep down he's hurt, he knows it.

'No comment' is so underrated.[/quote]

Because he's an absolute douchebag and I hope he lives out the last years of his career bouncing around from team-to-team living on his old reputation.

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This article really ticked me off. I can't say I want anything bad to happen to him physically but, damn, I hope his career ends on a low note. Quickly forgotten, like a fart in the wind.

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and did we really lose that much going from peirce to marshal? laVar is an ass, plain and simple.

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He gets booed from me when he comes out against us. I was going to be indifferent.

Not anymore.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]and did we really lose that much going from peirce to marshal? laVar is an ass, plain and simple.[/quote]

Pierce pisses me off even more than LaVar. Pierce is constantly bad-mouthing the team after they had him one season (right?) and then because HE didn't want to be a team player, but wanted to get paid, he left for money.

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note that he is the only one slinging mud. the skins(coaches or players) have said nothing about his me first attitude and his freelancing tendencies. lavar has a hard on for this organization and i hope he never makes it back to the playoffs with any team, while the skins win multiple sbs

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LoL?? yes we let go of champ to get portis...what a bust that was...................................LoL...oh and yes im sure we will regret losing ryan when archuleta and taylor literally break people in half.....lol and wow Gibbs is deffinately not as good as Marty or Spurrier..what were we thinking...and Brad Johnson is too easy so i shall leave that one alone!!!....bottom line...he is not that bright...all of the players/coaches he named we have obvious upgrades for...the only one that we did not receive a straight upgrade was Champ...but for him we got a pro-bowl and possibly a future HOF back!!...good call Arrington...see you soon buddy!!!

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But just like with ANY ex-Skin, he's going to make a game-changing play like f-ing Pierce did the first time we played them.

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I still don't blame Pierce for leaving. He gave the Skins a fair shot at re-signing him. The Giants contract was simply structured with more money up front, as we know the Dan doesn't roll like that, he likes to backload the deal. No doubt the Giants knew this and structured his deal that way.

Besides, with the money we saved from Pierce, we're a lot better off. We have Marshall who did a great job at a fraction of the cost of Pierce.

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On a side note, Chad Morton can suck my balls. Ever notice how ANY TIME he returns a kickoff past the 20, he gets up like he just ran it in for a TD?

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Chad Morton still plays? I hadn't noticed.

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Next time you watch a Giants game, on the kickoff return, he'll be the one dry-humping his teammates over his 10-20 yard return.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Pierce pisses me off even more than LaVar. Pierce is constantly bad-mouthing the team after they had him one season (right?) and then because HE didn't want to be a team player, but wanted to get paid, he left for money.[/quote]i know right, he shows no appriciation for a team that gave an undrafted rookie a chance and then bolts right out of town for a little bit more cash. the skins offer wasn't that much less and then he wants to talk trash about them. all the players that were let go under the old coaching staffs were to repair a organzation that was in shambles. gibbs has this team on the right track now and these guys are jealous that they are not going to be a part off it.

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I would seriously love to know what LaVar's gripe is now. He's bringing up old shit.

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Let's keep in mind of course these guys are going to talk trash. It's a big division rivalry, they do what they have to do to get pumped up. I think LaVar is genuinely ticked, Pierce on the other hand talks trash for the sake of it. I don't get the feeling that he's got any bad feelings over the whole deal.

As for Chad Morton... who?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I would seriously love to know what LaVar's gripe is now. He's bringing up old shit.[/quote]

He's overly sensitive, always has been. He needs a babysitter or someone to hold his hand, pat him on the back every once in a while and tell him he's the greatest. When he doesn't get that he acts out and throws a fit like a child.

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[quote=Mattyk72]He's overly sensitive, always has been. He needs a babysitter or someone to hold his hand, pat him on the back every once in a while and tell him he's the greatest. When he doesn't get that he acts out and throws a fit like a child.[/quote]amen brother matty

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Ugh. Screw him. Can't wait to see Sellers flatten him. I also have visions of little Moss catching him blindsided and laying him out.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]and did we really lose that much going from peirce to marshal? laVar is an ass, plain and simple.[/quote]

actually we did. cause losing pierce and moving marshall inside meant we were forced to start warrick holdman, who was worse than terrible.

washington-pierce-marshall was a GREAT LB lineup. arrington was decent last year, but if we still had pierce i don't think he would have seen a single down.

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I actually believe Holdman will be vastly improved this year. Williams doesn't give props for nothing.

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That Guy is rightfully harsh on Holdman, but I'm holding out on him being the Comeback Player of the Year. There is potential if you look past last year. I wonder what the uninspiring play (or lack there of) was due to?

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All LA needed to do to feel good about himself was read the posts on this site from 2 years ago by everyone that is now bashing him saying how he is the greatest LB ever.

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[quote=724Skinsfan]That Guy is rightfully harsh on Holdman, but I'm holding out on him being the Comeback Player of the Year. There is potential if you look past last year. I wonder what the uninspiring play (or lack there of) was due to?[/quote]

I don't know about Comeback Player of the Year, but I REALLY think he's going to hold things down while Rocky works his way in.

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I hate to say it, but Lavar overall does have some points about the way the organization's been run. However, that's in the past & its Gibbs' show now, and we've already seen the difference.
I don't doubt though that the Danny would be an absolute ass if you were on his bad side, & I've said before on our multitude of Lavar threads, my best theory on it is that Lavar got Danny pissed when he sided w/his agents. I don't know about all that stuff that Coles' claimed last year, but he too had personal stuff to say about DS.
Speakin of agents & Lavar, check today's news on that - the nflpa has suspended them after getting fed up w/them delaying the hearing dates.
As for Pierece, he's just tryin to be a good teamate w/Lavar, he's also hurt that we didn't sign him for big $. I do wish we'd have kept him though.

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There's a disconnect in Arrington's comments. He's obviously jaded by the treatment he received from Snyder over the last five seasons. He names Davis leaving, Champ, Marty, Spurrier, etc. But Lavar, those are all things that happened as a result of Dan Snyder being involved in the franchise. Now that Gibbs is back, Snyder is not meddling. Gibbs and Williams are making the calls, and surprise surprise, the Skins made the playoffs last year once Snyder got out of the way and let the coaches do what they do.

Lavar's hurt mostly because he knows that Dan Snyder finally is getting out of the way, and there are finally good coaches in place. Notice how he didn't criticize Gibbs or Williams? Lavar is upset because finally, FINALLY the Skins have something going, and the coaches didn't think he deserved to be a part of it. That's what really hurts. Because in the end Dan Snyder is a guy that knows nothing about football. But when a hall-of-fame coach treats you like you're not wanted, that has to hit home.

And it hits home for a reason. Lavar was out most of last season and we went 10-6. GW obviously doesn't need him to put up a good defense, which of course answers the ultimate question in today's NFL: is this player worth his cap figure? The answer is a resounding no.

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[quote=irish]All LA needed to do to feel good about himself was read the posts on this site from 2 years ago by everyone that is now bashing him saying how he is the greatest LB ever.[/quote]

C'mon now, things have definitely changed over the last 2 years.

He definitely hasn't endeared himself to a lot of fans with his complaining and lashing out against the team. He's certainly not an innocent victim. The fans didn't turn on him for no reason. And he still has his fair share of supporters to boot.

And in the end the majority of people are going to support the team over an individual player. That shouldn't be surprising.

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[quote=Schneed10]There's a disconnect in Arrington's comments. He's obviously jaded by the treatment he received from Snyder over the last five seasons. He names Davis leaving, Champ, Marty, Spurrier, etc. But Lavar, those are all things that happened as a result of Dan Snyder being involved in the franchise. Now that Gibbs is back, Snyder is not meddling. Gibbs and Williams are making the calls, and surprise surprise, the Skins made the playoffs last year once Snyder got out of the way and let the coaches do what they do.

Lavar's hurt mostly because he knows that Dan Snyder finally is getting out of the way, and there are finally good coaches in place. Notice how he didn't criticize Gibbs or Williams? Lavar is upset because finally, FINALLY the Skins have something going, and the coaches didn't think he deserved to be a part of it. That's what really hurts. Because in the end Dan Snyder is a guy that knows nothing about football. But when a hall-of-fame coach treats you like you're not wanted, that has to hit home.

And it hits home for a reason. Lavar was out most of last season and we went 10-6. GW obviously doesn't need him to put up a good defense, which of course answers the ultimate question in today's NFL: is this player worth his cap figure? The answer is a resounding no.[/quote]

All good points but I thought Lavar played really well at the end of the season. I also think his being humbled combined w/his knee recovering fully, will make him a better player this year. I hated to see him go, but also did an awful lot to deserve his treatment by the team.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]C'mon now, things have definitely changed over the last 2 years.

He definitely hasn't endeared himself to a lot of fans with his complaining and lashing out against the team. He's certainly not an innocent victim. The fans didn't turn on him for no reason. And he still has his fair share of supporters to boot.

And in the end the majority of people are going to support the team over an individual player. That shouldn't be surprising.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what you said but I am just wondering how LA went from the greatest LB in the NFL to a loudmouth bum. Even last season when he went nuts in his first game back he was extolled by most on this site and Greg Williams was ripped for not using such a great player.

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It's when he makes stupid ass comments like this. I don't think anyone is denying that he's an upgrade for the Giants, but we all WISH he plays poorly.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]It's when he makes stupid ass comments like this. I don't think anyone is denying that he's an upgrade for the Giants, but we all WISH he plays poorly.[/QUOTE]

Posts 2 & 4 (yours) dont sound like the NYG got an upgrade with LA.

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Let me get some popcorn...

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[quote=irish]Posts 2 & 4 (yours) dont sound like the NYG got an upgrade with LA.[/quote]

That's right, because I'm talking about how I hate him.

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[quote=irish]I agree with what you said but I am just wondering how LA went from the greatest LB in the NFL to a loudmouth bum. Even last season when he went nuts in his first game back he was extolled by most on this site and Greg Williams was ripped for not using such a great player.[/quote]

I guess people just got tired of his complaining, and the reality set in that this defense simply didn't need him and in fact is probably better off without him.

That's life in the NFL and sports in general. One day the hero, the next the goat.

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[QUOTE=DaveyFoSho]LoL?? yes we let go of champ to get portis...what a bust that was...................................LoL...oh and yes im sure we will regret losing ryan when archuleta and taylor literally break people in half.....lol and wow Gibbs is deffinately not as good as Marty or Spurrier..what were we thinking...and Brad Johnson is too easy so i shall leave that one alone!!!....bottom line...he is not that bright...all of the players/coaches he named we have obvious upgrades for...the only one that we did not receive a straight upgrade was Champ...but for him we got a pro-bowl and possibly a future HOF back!!...good call Arrington...see you soon buddy!!![/QUOTE]
If I'm not mistaken, Champ was offered a pretty lucrative deal and he turned it down; and to be frank, he hasn't exactly had a stellar run in Denver. He gets beat regularly, like....in the playoffs last year. He's a "biter".

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[quote=Mattyk72]I guess people just got tired of his complaining, and the reality set in that this defense simply didn't need him and in fact is probably better off without him.

That's life in the NFL and sports in general. One day the hero, the next the goat.[/quote]

Right on, i remember last year when he wasn't playing a reporter asked Gibbs if he had any conversations w/ LA about his lack of playing time. JG said that he had talked w/ LA more than he had talked w/ any other player throughout his coaching career. I think they were just tired of it.

I don't think its cause to boo him, though.

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I bet there were some people waiting to see what I had to say on this :

I think he keeps talking about it, because people keep asking him. I believe the reason he sounds bitter is because he always said he wanted to be here when things turned around, and now he's not. He felt he lived through all the bad times and wanted to be part of the good times. his feelings are probably a little hurt, given how emotional the guy is. But, that is part of the NFL, here one day , gone the next. and with the way Danny runs the team thats our motto. Thats our plan. this is what we can offer, take it and stay or we have to let you go. I think our D will be just fine, maybe better. But, we all have to admit that certain things he said is the truth. We did turn our backs on players that we said we REDSKINS. Steven Davis, all though up in age, still had a year of two of good play in him. He took Carolina to super bowl his first year. Brad Johnson, won a super bowl. Smoot, was labled a REDSKIN so was Pierce. They chose to take more upfront money , but who wouldn't. The owners dont have loyalty to players, so they players have become the same way. They look at it like, hey this is my career, I may get hurt and never play again. I can get guaranteed 6 million this year for this team, or guaranteed $750K and maybe make 6 million in a couple years. name one person out here who wouldn't take the money up front. Loyalty with players and teams does not exist anymore.

Bottom line, I think we have a unbelievable chance to do something special this year, and LaVar is hurt that he isn't a part of it. I think it will work out the best for both sides that he is gone. no more drama all season of is he playing, why isn't he playing. did he miss that or that. We ALL need to move the hell on!

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People are going to keep asking as long as he answers.

Same for the tired TO/McNabb drama. You know TO will keep talking, that's why McNabb should stop addressing it.

If LaVar said no comment, I'm not talking about the Redskins anymore, the questions would eventually stop. I'm sure we're going to hear about this all season.