Hamden Update
 

I had a chance to see Gibran play again, and I have to say every time I see him he impresses, he's acurate, and very smooth, even under pressure, but I think the most impressive part of his game that really stand's out, is his poise, he just look's like he know's exactly what he's going to do out there, it's only a matter of snapping the ball, he split's time with C. Sthoener who is horrible, but I guess that's what they have to do in the europe league, I am officially going to say he will win the 3rd string QB job, hand's down, he fit's everything Gibbs look's for in a QB, on the other hand, hasselbach [ even though he used to live down the road from me ] doesn't, he's to small, and more importantly his arm is to week, which is a must in Gibb's offense.

OK let em rip. :silly:

Couldn't agree more on the Hamdan assesment, it made me nuts when they'd drive down the field, chnage for the end of a qtr and Stoener came on. Leave the GOOD QB on!

He'll be a great back-up to Ramsey in years to come, hopefully the 6th QB that wins a Super Bowl under Gibbs (after Brunell and Ramsey).

I hope Hamden never wins a super bowl under Gibbs. Assuming Gibbs stays for his five years, and only his five years that would mean Hamdan would be a starter within five years. I hope that Ramsey has a longer career with us than that.

yeah....he's our Rohan Davey. But if he had a great preseason, or another great Euro-ball season, should we trade him? I think the Pats should see what they can get for Davey, because if a team like the Dolphins would've seen this months ago, they may not have traded for Feeley. I have no doubts the Pats could get a second rounder for Davey if they're smart

I'm also impressed by Hamdan every time I watch him play. I think he could be a very valuable assett to the team. Another check in the Spurrier column fellas!

Hamdan may be looking good in NFLE, but has he improved enough to earn the #3 job in '04? I kinda doubt it simply because he's still so green in terms of football experience. I think Hasselbeck will hang on to the #3 spot and Hamdan will ride the practice squad again.

Since neither Hamdan or Hasselbeck would create much of a salary cap ripple with their release, it's very possible that they'll both be gone, and the backup may be someone with Gibbs-like qualities and a little more NFL experience.

I have to agree with Brudlee. Gibbs has picked up veteran Qb's on final cut day in the past. However if Hamden Hasselback continue to play well they could both remain, one on the practice squad.

Here are Hamden's stats this NFLE season:

Hamdan, G (WAS) Att. 49 Comp. 24 Yards 361, 49.0% completion 7.37yds. per pass, 54.9 QB rating

Not very good, but you guys are right his confidance is growing as of late, which is big.

Thank you to Defensewins!!!

This thread started out with claims that Hamden was accurate and sharp and all that stuff. Folks, against NFL Europe defenses, he completed less than 50% of his throws and his QB rating would get him benched in favor of a chimpanzee during an NFL season. Take off the rose colored glasses, folks.

Hamden is RAW. He needs lots of schooling. If he was on the practice squad last year - I don't recall - he is only allowed to be on it for one more year and then he is on the roster here or outta town. If Hamden has to play in any game where there is less than a 4 TD lead either way midway through the 4th quarter, the Skins' season is TOAST!! Barring a miracle, that is probably true for the next several years...

I also wouldnt be surprised to see Giibs take a vet for a third string QB.

As far as Hamdam, his stats dont look impressive, and I havent watched any NFL Europe games but didnt one of you say that they take him out at the end of the QTR. And on many account he'll lead them down the field and then not be in to get the TD. If thats the case mabye his QB rating would be a lot higher, touchdowns play a big part of that. Either way the completion percentage isnt all that hot.

Let's remember that Wuerffel was a star in NFLE, enough said.

yea you really need to atleast be a star in the CFL to get a chance...heh

speaking of our man Danny, check this out:

[url]http://www.canada.com/sports/football/story.html?id=BF03EA90-FEF4-4BC9-B027-EB620D65599A[/url]

Hamden Update
 

Hasselbeck showed a better understanding of the game than Ramsey last year. He's not nearly as physically talented, but he's smart as a whip and can move the chains. In other words, he's the perfect emergency qb.

DW is a class act, I'll always wish him the best.

Put his head on a 6-3, 230 LB frame with a rocket arm and he would have been a star.

I agree that Hamden is raw. Can he be practice squaded again? Has he had any access to the current coaching staff? I'd like to see him at least get some snaps at training camp under the eye of Gibbs and co. Whatever they decide, I'll take their word for it..

When has Gibb's opted for a veteran 3rd string QB? schroeder, humphries, rypien, conklin, he has alway's used the 3rd spot to develope a young QB, he just wanted a veteran at the #2 spot, Sthoener an ex- NFL starter, Hamden is head and shoulder's better than him, as well Hamden is the only guy moving the ball, every time he put's together a drive he get's benched, I think they have some kind of agreement with the NFL to get everyone playing time, as for his stat's, don't really care, I have never been a stat guy, I have seen him play twice now, and have yet to see him throw 1 bad pass, the kid is a cool customer on the field, and is showing a lot of potential, just the kind of guy Gibb's will look to develope, it can also be looked at this way, who will bring back more in a trade 2 or 3 year's from now? Hasselbach or Hamden? I say Hamden is the guy with a real chance to bring back some pick's for us.

just for kicks let's put it to a vote, who's your #3 QB for 2004?

I'd say our #3 will be Hasselbeck, with Hamdan on the practice squad for another year while learning from a real NFL coaching staff. In 2005, it will be interesting, depending on what kind of impression they both make on the coaches this year.

I agree with SkinsRock

Hasselbeck should be our #3 next year hands down. Hamden may have looked good against all the other fourth and fifth stringers in the NFL, but Hasselbeck, while not looking amazing, still held his own in there against the #1's in the league last year.

Still, though, I dont want to see Hamden get cut either. Is it possible for him to be on the practice squad again this season. I think he could be a nice project for Gibbs & Co. However, though I'd have to take Hasslebeck for the time being. If GiBran looks good in preseason, then maybe I'll have to look at it harder.