Mike Rumph just a man not superhero.
 

This is an early article that pulls Mikes card.
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History of being torched.
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He wasnt playing when we torched them in '05 and '04. It seems his upside is tackling though the 49ers on WP say he cant do that either. I think we can move forward with him not so much for his immediate need of ability but a role he can ease into getting use of him by his experience. Maybe he can keep Morton/Patterson company.

His draft report.
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It's a good lateral move, we had too many recievers and not enough depth at CB. Taylor Jacobs wasn't going to make the team anyway, at least this way we get something for him. Now if we can just keep all our injury prone corners from being hurt at the same time.

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i dont know anything about rumph except for what i just read and i love this trade already. jacobs isnt an nfl receiver and we could use a corner. and like i said before, the more guys from the U, the better. if our coaches cant get the best out of him, then next season he will be out of the league

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He had alot of upside coming out of college.

Maybe Williams and company can help get him back on track.

He seems to fit the mold of a GW corner... big, physical, and versatile.

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Worst case he gets cut - so would Jacobs; best case he gets Williamsized and lives up to his potential. I'd say we can't lose.

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This way, we at least get to hear Jacobs badmouth the franchise on the way out the door. August just doesn't seem right unless Rod Gardner (who?) or Darnerian McCants (huh?) is telling someone how we missed out on a good thing.

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i can just hear arrington now "they did tell me anyhing and they didn't say anthing to taylor jacobs either, terrible franchise"

if i have to hear that i'm going to throw up

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IMHO an average corner with upside potential is worth more than an average receiver with upside potential. Corners are tougher to come across, and even if this guy can only become a nickel and dime package guy, that is better than a 5th or 6th receiver with no heart.

I also liked the post someone made about Nolan getting run out of town here a few years ago. Frankly, if Williams and his staff of ex D-coordinators see something in this guy worth going after, then I have a lot more confidence in their judgement than Mike "prevent-d in the third quarter" Nolan.

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It's a good deal for us. We have WR depth, especially with Espy's great preseason. We have always needed secondary depth. It seems even when we had it, we'd have enough injuries to wish we had MORE.

Besides, it finally rids us of Taylor Jacobs. We could trade him for a BBQ grill and I'd love the deal.

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Here is how I break this trade down:

Jacobs: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.
Rumph: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.

Jacobs: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.
Rumph: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.

Jacobs: Likely to be cut.
Rumph: Likely to be cut.

Looks like a great deal for both players who each get a chance at a fresh start. It will be a great deal for the team of the player takes advantage of this second chance.

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this was the best case senario because if we would have cut gim he would have wound up on an NFC East team giving away the secrets to our new playbook... at least this way he doesn't go somewhere that will hurt us and if rumph can balance out to first round talent then even better

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules;204068]Here is how I break this trade down:

Jacobs: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.
Rumph: Entered the league with high expectations due in large part to speed.

Jacobs: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.
Rumph: Frequent injuries derailed player development and led to repuation as an underachiever.

Jacobs: Likely to be cut.
Rumph: Likely to be cut.

Looks like a great deal for both players who each get a chance at a fresh start. It will be a great deal for the team of the player takes advantage of this second chance.[/QUOTE]

You are correct, sir.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;204073]this was the best case senario because if we would have cut gim he would have wound up on an NFC East team giving away the secrets to our new playbook... at least this way he doesn't go somewhere that will hurt us and if rumph can balance out to first round talent then even better[/quote]

Hmm..Tim Hassleback anyone?

It is interesting how the 49ner's are quickly becoming our New York Jets of the the West.

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The real question is how is he on Madden 07?

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I like the trade in that we add depth to a position so desperately needed. On the other hand, what disturbs me most is, all around the area of CB seems to be injuries. Shawn Springs had problems late last season and is having some problems now. Carlos Rogers had lingeering problems most of last year and has had some early problems this year. Mike Rumph in his brief NFL career has been beset with injury. I guess my biggest concern is how we're going to use injured players as depth for injured players. Kenny Wright was a drum Sunday night, and Jimoh is having problems also. Let's hope this injury problem somehow finds a way to no onger be a concern or we could have serious problems later on.

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Are we saying we should've drafted a CB?

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By the way, Roger McIntosh is a going to be a good LB.

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[quote=EXoffender;204231]By the way, Roger McIntosh is a going to be a good LB.[/quote]

Roger that!





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[QUOTE=EXoffender;204230]Are we saying we should've drafted a CB?[/QUOTE]


I would not have been upset had we drafted a CB but what I'm more concerned with is the fact when we have injuries we bring in guys with injury concerns. Sort of like fighting fire with fire.

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Getting a corner drafted in the first round for a guy who you were going to drop is a steal. This guy has started in the NFL several seasons, he has just been hurt the last two years.

If this pans out this may be the best move that Cerrato has ever made (if you consider all of the variables).

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i guess jacobs leaving means that david van patten will be around all season
now then does'nt it?

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where was patten in the pre season opener???

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;204346]i guess jacobs leaving means that david van patten will be around all season
now then does'nt it?

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Maybe not or maybe so. Mike espy is pretty good but time will tell.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;204344]Getting a corner drafted in the first round for a guy who you were going to drop is a steal. This guy has started in the NFL several seasons, he has just been hurt the last two years.

If this pans out this may be the best move that Cerrato has ever made (if you consider all of the variables).[/QUOTE]


Where a player is drafted does not determine whether he can play. I've seen just as many first round bust as seventh round ones. The player he was traded for was a second round choice and he's damaged goods too if he's always injured.

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I was looking at a youtube video of sanfran preseason game and saw rumph got burned for a td agianst the second team of the bears

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i would have given jacobs away. even if he goes out in first cuts, we're still better off.

he needed depth at OT, S, CB, and experienced help at DT/LB. while i'm not high on folau, i don't know much about him and on paper we've fixed our depth problems.

between antaun edwards, julian battle, and rumph, we should be able to find at least one guy better than jimoh, and if that happens, it means this was a good move. It's the Braves philosophy - the more arms you take, the more you'll graduate into the major leagues. The broncos used the draft to take 3-4 CBs a couple years ago and one of them (foxworth) turned out to be pretty good.

the only downside is that we've got a lot of injury histories on our defense.

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[quote=Longtimefan;204259]I would not have been upset had we drafted a CB but what I'm more concerned with is the fact when we have injuries we bring in guys with injury concerns. Sort of like fighting fire with fire.[/quote]

right now there's only two types of players you can get (and during the offseason/draft two types that are values): injury problems and crappy players. springs was an injury problem that's worked out fairly well, among others. barrow noble and fiore were ones that didn't work out, but they were VERY cheap mistakes.

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I thought Rumph actually played quite hard last Saturday. He's not the best CB in the world but will be the equivalent of Walt Harris. With such incredible Safeties we have a little help, but still am not opposed to adding another say #28?! Where is Walt Harris? I'd take #27 if I couldn't get #28.

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Are you really serious? The man is like 45 or 46 by now, there is now way he could contribute on the field...

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Honestly I think he could. Still in great shape. Not a good run stopping corner for his sake, but a fast coverage corner, better than Deion now!

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DG is not in great shape. he may be fit, but that's a lot different from football shape. that's less realistic than seeing mike espy as a #1 starter.