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This is one I have going with another guy at work. I wont be able to keep up with it every week so he is going to help me out when I cant do it.The draft was last night.

We got stuck with the last pick of the 1rst round(12 teams)

QB: Brady,Volek
RB: Rudi Johnson,J.Lewis,L.Betts
WR:R.Brown(philly),Toomer,Driver
TE:Dallas Clark,Gates
D/ST:Chicago,Cincy
K:Graham(Cincy)

The wideouts are weak but I have some tradde bait with Clark and Volek!

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You need a bit of help at WR and RB, I am not sold on J.Lewis with M.Anderson there, and Betts is a decent backup, but need a RB as well. Trade Dallas Clark.

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Middle of the pack at best.

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I'm curious to know who you took with your 2nd overall pick. Gates? I think you were fortunate to get Rudi with the #12 spot but you probably should have picked a second RB with the following pick. I actually think Jamal Lewis will have a very good year so maybe there will be no harm with picking up Gates. He's better than a lot of receivers.

Cincy: you're going to play Chicago most of the time so drop/trade for wide receiver or running back depth

Dallas Clark: The TE position is not one to acquire depth in; drop/trade for wr depth. You've got Volek, grab Givens (if available). He's being paid to be a #1.

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Apparently Jeff Fisher is talking about rotating Vince Young for a few series every game starting with game one, to confuse the defenses. I don't know if he's being serious, but if so that doesn't bode so well for Volek

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That would indeed suck for Volek but the Titans need to prepare for the future.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;204362]I'm curious to know who you took with your 2nd overall pick. Gates? I think you were fortunate to get Rudi with the #12 spot but you probably should have picked a second RB with the following pick. I actually think Jamal Lewis will have a very good year so maybe there will be no harm with picking up Gates. He's better than a lot of receivers.

Cincy: you're going to play Chicago most of the time so drop/trade for wide receiver or running back depth

Dallas Clark: The TE position is not one to acquire depth in; drop/trade for wr depth. You've got Volek, grab Givens (if available). He's being paid to be a #1.[/quote]it went like this
1.johnson
2.brady
3.gates
4.chicago

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I think you're going to need the most help at WR, then RB. You should have tried to grab either a top tier receiver with your second (Harrison, Holt, Ftizgerald, etc) or at least a second running back. Then again, I always undervalue QBs and get stuck with Roethlisberger or worse.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;204515]it went like this
1.johnson
2.brady
3.gates
4.chicago[/quote]

Gigity, no offense man, but I'd love to play against you in a league for money. Brady with the 13th pick is WAY overpaying. And taking a defense anywhere higher than the 8th round is a rookie mistake.

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that said, if you got Jamal Lewis in the 5th round or later, you got good value.

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QB: Brady,Volek
RB: Rudi Johnson,J.Lewis,L.Betts
WR: R.Brown(philly),Toomer,Driver
TE: Dallas Clark,Gates
D/ST: Chicago,Cincy
K: Graham(Cincy)


QB = Brady is a mediocre Fantasy QB. I had him last year and traded him for a top-tier RB and it worked out GREAT for me. Volek may not even play all year depending on Vince Young's progress.
QB Grade = C

RB = Johnson and Lewis are great WHEN healthy and should work out well for you. You may want to consider dropping an extra Defense or TE for Mike Anderson as a handcuff for Lewis. Betts is a great backup/emergency fantasy back and is expected to be more involved in the offense this year. If you get return yards, he may contribute a few bonus points there.
RB Grade = B

WR = Brown and Toomer need upgraded badly. Philly's passing game is a mess and Toomer is not a promary target in NY. If you must lose one of them, make it Brown over Toomer. Driver is a great pick, he's all GB has. Maybe you could target a FA WR like Bobby Engram.
WR Grade = C

TE = You have the BEST TE in Gates and a great backup in Clark that could start for a lot of fantasy teams since TE is so shallow of a position. Clark should be used to upgrade another position. It's better to have a good WR every week than to have a backup TE for one bye week.
TE Grade = A


DEF = Chicago is one of the better defenses. Great pick. Cincy was ranked 28th in Defense last year and can be dropped since you have other needs in more important positions. You can always pick up a defense for your bye week. I dropped Cincy's defense for Ladell Betts on one of my teams this year.
[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byteam?group=Defense&cat=Rankings&conference=NFL&year=season_2005&sort=530&old_category=Total&old_group=Offense"]NFL - Statistics by Team - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]
DEF Grade = A (for Chicago)

K = Graham is reliable.
K Grade = B


Overall Grade = B- but can be improved easily.

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[quote=Buster;204571]QB: Brady,Volek
RB: Rudi Johnson,J.Lewis,L.Betts
WR: R.Brown(philly),Toomer,Driver
TE: Dallas Clark,Gates
D/ST: Chicago,Cincy
K: Graham(Cincy)


QB = Brady is a mediocre Fantasy QB. I had him last year and traded him for a top-tier RB and it worked out GREAT for me. Volek may not even play all year depending on Vince Young's progress.
QB Grade = C

RB = Johnson and Lewis are great WHEN healthy and should work out well for you. You may want to consider dropping an extra Defense or TE for Mike Anderson as a handcuff for Lewis. Betts is a great backup/emergency fantasy back and is expected to be more involved in the offense this year. If you get return yards, he may contribute a few bonus points there.
RB Grade = B

WR = Brown and Toomer need upgraded badly. Philly's passing game is a mess and Toomer is not a promary target in NY. If you must lose one of them, make it Brown over Toomer. Driver is a great pick, he's all GB has. Maybe you could target a FA WR like Bobby Engram.
WR Grade = C

TE = You have the BEST TE in Gates and a great backup in Clark that could start for a lot of fantasy teams since TE is so shallow of a position. Clark should be used to upgrade another position. It's better to have a good WR every week than to have a backup TE for one bye week.
TE Grade = A


DEF = Chicago is one of the better defenses. Great pick. Cincy was ranked 28th in Defense last year and can be dropped since you have other needs in more important positions. You can always pick up a defense for your bye week. I dropped Cincy's defense for Ladell Betts on one of my teams this year.
[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byteam?group=Defense&cat=Rankings&conference=NFL&year=season_2005&sort=530&old_category=Total&old_group=Offense"]NFL - Statistics by Team - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]
DEF Grade = A (for Chicago)

K = Graham is reliable.
K Grade = B


Overall Grade = B- but can be improved easily.[/quote]

My feeling is you're being WAY too nice about the WR corps. I'd give it an F. Driver is the only one with a shot at cracking the top 20 WRs.

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i got volek with the 1st pick in the 14th.
i got lewis in the 7th or 8th.

schneed, as soon as i picked my defense, the next 3 picks were defense. and by the time i got to my pick in the first and second rounds that was the best i could do(johnson and brady). most of my picks were strategic according to when my starters had there bye week. If Brown from philly has the year i think he will, i will be fine.

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Yeah but according to Yahoo, you took Brady way too high. He is going 23rd overall on average, which is way lower than your pick of 13th overall.

And you're definitely playing with some amateurs if defenses are flying off the board in round 4. Chicago on average is being picked 43rd overall, and Pittsburgh Carolina and the Giants aren't going until the beginning of the 7th round. Even that's too high for a defense, IMO.

Was Steve Smith available at 13? How about Chad Johnson? Lamont Jordan? Steven Jackson? Cadillac? Torry Holt? All would have been way better options than Brady there.

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i think the only one that was left was holt. i thought he would fall down as far as my next pick and he almost did. some guy picked him right before i picked gates.

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[quote=Schneed10;204573]My feeling is you're being WAY too nice about the WR corps. I'd give it an F. Driver is the only one with a shot at cracking the top 20 WRs.[/quote]
Yeah, I was about to give it a D and I probably should've. To me, an "F" would be NO valuable players, he has 1. :)

He has extra players (and Cincy) to use to upgrade the WRs though, so it's not a lost season yet.

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oh yeah schneed.......hi!

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One point to make about drafting with regards to bye weeks. Don't give it it so much weight that you select an inferior player over a better performing player. The loss of a player affects one week. The use of an inferior player affects the entire season.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;204585]i think the only one that was left was holt. i thought he would fall down as far as my next pick and he almost did. some guy picked him right before i picked gates.[/quote]

You said that you picked Rudi at 12, and I'm going to assume that LJ, Alexander, and Tomlinson all went in the top 3. That means that if Chad Johnson, Cadillac, Lamont, Steven Jackson, and Steve Smith were all gone by pick 13, that means one of the following had to be available:

Ronnie Brown
Edgerrin James
Clinton Portis
Tiki Barber

You're officially certifiable to pass on any one of those guys for Tom Brady at 13.

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I am apparently not as fantasy savvy as you schneed. I am sorry to offend you by my shitty draft. Since this is only my third every fantasy league I would still consider myself a rookie. Now that you have smashed what little bit of confidence I had, I think I may just shoot myself now.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;204607]I am apparently not as fantasy savvy as you schneed. I am sorry to offend you by my shitty draft. Since this is only my third every fantasy league I would still consider myself a rookie. Now that you have smashed what little bit of confidence I had, I think I may just shoot myself now.[/quote]

LOL sorry homie. I don't mean to be harsh or critical in any way. Your thread asked for opinions in a public forum, so I gave my opinion. My choice of words was probably poor in calling you crazy and stuff like that, so I'm sorry about that (really I mean it). I probably should have just said A, B, and C were mistakes.

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Its cool Shneed. I am still very green when it comes to fantasy football.I'll be the first one to admit that this one wasn't very good. I am going to use all the advice on a future draft I have coming up on the 28th. I am still learning how to draft. When I got stuck with the 12th pick it kinda messed up my whole plan. All my top guys at every position(excpet defense) was already taken and i kinda pannicked and totally threw away my plan of going rb with my first 2 picks.

In my own defense, its a team with 2 owners. my co-worker and i went in together. I had to comprimise on quite a few picks. My next draft will be much better. Please give me another chance????.....=[I]sniff,sniff[/I]=....please?

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[quote=gibbsisgod;204640]Its cool Shneed. I am still very green when it comes to fantasy football.I'll be the first one to admit that this one wasn't very good. I am going to use all the advice on a future draft I have coming up on the 28th. I am still learning how to draft. When I got stuck with the 12th pick it kinda messed up my whole plan. All my top guys at every position(excpet defense) was already taken and i kinda pannicked and totally threw away my plan of going rb with my first 2 picks.

In my own defense, its a team with 2 owners. my co-worker and i went in together. I had to comprimise on quite a few picks. My next draft will be much better. Please give me another chance????.....=[I]sniff,sniff[/I]=....please?[/quote]

I've got a few suggestions if you're interested, by no means is this the Bible but it's one experienced player's opinion:

1) It usually doesn't pay to take a QB early, unless his name is Peyton Manning. The difference from the #2 QB (Brady) to the #8-10 QB (Delhomme, Warner) isn't that great. You can hold off on a QB till like the 6th or 7th round and still get a pretty dependable one. That allows you to focus on RBs and WRs early.

2) Same concept applies to defenses. Chicago seems to be the best. But I wouldn't take a D too early because the difference from the #2 D isn't very big from the #12. Waiting on a D till round 8 again allows you to build valuable depth at RB and WR.

3) If you can land two stud RBs in the first two rounds, that's pretty huge. If it comes around to your 2nd rounder and you don't see an RB studly enough, there should be a top-flight WR available (Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, TO, Marvin Harrison, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin).

4) Here's a good link for overall player rankings. By no means do you have to stick to it, but if you find yourself picking a player 12-24 spots before this thing says you should, it's likely that you're making a mistake.

[url=http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=bf-bigboard-football&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&league=fantasy/nfl]Yahoo! Sports - Fantasy - Big(ger) Board: Football[/url]

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[quote=gibbsisgod;204322]This is one I have going with another guy at work. I wont be able to keep up with it every week so he is going to help me out when I cant do it.The draft was last night.

We got stuck with the last pick of the 1rst round(12 teams)

QB: Brady,Volek
RB: Rudi Johnson,J.Lewis,L.Betts
WR:R.Brown(philly),Toomer,Driver
TE:Dallas Clark,Gates
D/ST:Chicago,Cincy
K:Graham(Cincy)

The wideouts are weak but I have some tradde bait with Clark and Volek![/quote]I like this draft more than most people would. You are very strong at TE, Def, and Kicker. Those positions usually get overlooked, but in many cases decide the winner and loser of close games.

You will need to upgrade your WRs, but this can be done through Free Agency throughout the year. No need to rush out and make a deal.

I would try to upgrade Lewis. Maybe you could package him with Betts to the guy who has Portis for a better back.

In a 12 team league, you are very well off as is.

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Did you listen to that Fantasy Football commercial on the NFL Network?


[QUOTE]Take a kicker early, don't worry about running backs until later rounds, you can always trade for one and oh yeah, Manning retired..."which one?"...Both of them![/QUOTE]

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not a good draft :(

if you follow the yahoo etc pre-ranking list you could do better until you have your sea-legs.

try to pickup dante hall, wes welker, mike bell, or frank gore on waivers if available (also, hall and welker are only good if return yardage counts and are very good if you get 1 point per reception as well).

chris perry is also better than l betts is a point per reception league and is almost gauranteed to be undrafted. see if a guy like terry glenn or brandon lloyd slipped through the cracks (happens sometimes) or consider barlow.

drop volek for mcnair or bledsoe if available, volek isn't gauranteed starting time. drop cinncy DEF for RB/WR depth and see if betts or toomer can be updgraded.

you're going to have to waiver wire snipe like crazy to try and get that team into the playoffs, but i've made it work before (when i had p holmes, gonzo, d jackson, d mccalister, and d culpepper all on the same team last year. what i thought was my best team ever turned into its own hospital wing :/ )

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i have offered a couple of trades. this is the one i hope works out

Clark for Reggie Wayne(the guy is loaded with wideouts and has yet to pickup a te)

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[quote=gibbsisgod;206594]i have offered a couple of trades. this is the one i hope works out

Clark for Reggie Wayne(the guy is loaded with wideouts and has yet to pickup a te)[/quote]

that's completely one sided, but if he's silly enough to bite, that'd be a major win for you.

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alright guys! this is my other team. i used some of the advice schneed gave me. tell me what you think.

this league was set up a bit different. instead of picking a whole defensive squad, you pick one player.and we have an additional slot for a wr or rb in addition to the already 2 rb's and 2 wr's each sunday. that spot is T.J. houshman.....

Qb:Mcnabb,Brunell,
RB:L.johnson,McGahee,Foster,T.Jones
WR:Mason,Fitzgerald,M.Jones(JAC),T.J.Houshman.....,
TE: Cooley, Stevens
Defensive player:Tatupu
K:Feely, Kaeding

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[quote=gibbsisgod;207168]alright guys! this is my other team. i used some of the advice schneed gave me. tell me what you think.

this league was set up a bit different. instead of picking a whole defensive squad, you pick one player.and we have an additional slot for a wr or rb in addition to the already 2 rb's and 2 wr's each sunday. that spot is T.J. houshman.....

Qb:Mcnabb,Brunell,
RB:L.johnson,McGahee,Foster,T.Jones
WR:Mason,Fitzgerald,M.Jones(JAC),T.J.Houshman.....,
TE: Cooley, Stevens
Defensive player:Tatupu
K:Feely, Kaeding[/quote]

Much, MUCH better, Gigity.

A stud in LJ, McGahee looks great in preseason so far, and Foster and Jones provide two guys who add great depth because they play for winning teams whose coaches love to run the ball and play keep away when they have the lead.

McNabb is solid and Brunell gives you a good backup.

Mason, Fitzgerald, and TJ Housemazilli are a great top 3 WRs. Matt Jones could pay off huge, though you don't even need him to.

Cooley should be a top 5 or 6 TE. Jeramy Stevens is out for 8 weeks, so you can drop him and grab more depth somewhere else. You probably don't need a backup kicker either. I'd keep Feely, Giants should score well.

I think you've got a serious contender here. Well done.

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By the way, I'd watch the Carolina and Chicago RB situations very closely. If it appears that either Foster or T Jones will be reliably getting 20+ carries per game, I'd play one of them instead of Housemazilli at your RB/WR spot.

Featured RBs on good teams almost always put up more points than WRs like Housemazilli.

Though there should be weeks when Housemazilli is a better play than Derrick Mason. Depends on the matchups. A good tip is to figure out the week's opponent and check to see who their cornerbacks are. If the CBs are really good, sit that WR and play the other one.

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Second draft should be playoff bound!
My only criticism is regarding Stevens.
He's injured and could be out for a few weeks.
Ditch him and your backup K and pick up some depth at RB and/or WR.
You can never have enough RBs.
Houshmanzilla. Lock it. Championship.

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thanks guys! my thoughts on stevens are this: i dont need him until week 8 when cooley has a bye. i think he will be healthy by then so i took a chance on him. i got him in the next to last round i think so i didn't waste a high pick on him.