What Happen to Your D
 

Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?

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snore

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We're totally screwed. Doomed I tell ya. Doomed! Might as well shut the site down Matty, season's over. Time to sell the team, sell the domain name. Focus on our jai alai message board.

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What Happen To Your O?

thought turl owen was suppose to be awesome 4 u and big tuna was cool with him bludsoe was gonna be awesom this yr

oh right his hammy hurts, b/c the real drew that runs yr team (rosenhauser) says hes too injured to play...

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First team D was good and you don't wanted any part of the cowboy!!!

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lets talk about our crappy defense when its real.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/QUOTE]


Been busy thinking about the cow-not-quite-men, double-beat-down last year! Season hasn't started yet.

HTTR! Beat Dallas!

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[quote=dgack;206097]What Happen To Your O?

thought turl owen was suppose to be awesome 4 u and big tuna was cool with him bludsoe was gonna be awesom this yr

oh right his hammy hurts, b/c the real drew that runs yr team (rosenhauser) says hes too injured to play...[/quote]


Yeah, because everyone knows [B]IT'S ALL ABOUT THE O[/B].

[I]"Visit the leader of the Dallas O at Overrated.com"[/I]

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I don't think D'Boyz is trying to trash talk us. I think he's earnestly asking our opinion of the problems.

On the run defense, I noticed Williams lining the guys up in a straight 4-3 most downs. Williams' ultimate run defense formation is a 5-2, when he lines Daniels over one of the guards, Griffin over the center, Salave'a over the guard, and Carter right over the tackle. He then moves Washington up to the line, just outside the other tackle. The formation prevents the center from reaching the second level, forcing him to handle Griffin, and allowing each of the D-lineman to go man-on-man with the offensive line. The players all use their quickness to generate penetration, and since the center is occupied with Griffin, Lemar Marshall runs free to the ball-carrier. He never ran this formation once against the Jets. He just lined the guys up in terrible situations and they were letting up 4 and 5 yards on a consistent basis. Of those 140 yards you mentioned, 61 came on that reverse play which was simply the result of overpursuit. That part is the player's fault, but otherwise I think it was simple scheming.

If the Skins get gashed by Dillon/Maroney this week against the Patriots, then I'll be worried about the run defense.

As for the offense, the receivers are getting open and the line is protecting Brunell. But Brunell's timing isn't there yet. That comes with time. Some holes were getting opened pretty well for Sellers and Betts at times against the Jets, and they took advantage. But those are holes that Portis can turn into 12 yard gains instead of the 6 yard gains that Sellers and Betts were ripping off. The offense will take some time to get in sync fully.

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Ugh. Already wanting to think way too much into preseason stats. Griffin went down. Williams starts putting people on islands to see how they react. Also, it was yet another trick play in PRESEASON by a shitty team. I honestly think it almost surprises our guys that someone is flaming enough to run one then. Aside from that, the defense played fairly lights out. Lots of good pass D and fairly good run D, even after Griffin went down.

Way to come in and try to stir the pot. Just like was mentioned above, come back when the games matter.

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[quote=Schneed10;206147]I don't think D'Boyz is trying to trash talk us. I think he's earnestly asking our opinion of the problems.

On the run defense, I noticed Williams lining the guys up in a straight 4-3 most downs. Williams' ultimate run defense formation is a 5-2, when he lines Daniels over one of the guards, Griffin over the center, Salave'a over the guard, and Carter right over the tackle. He then moves Washington up to the line, just outside the other tackle. The formation prevents the center from reaching the second level, forcing him to handle Griffin, and allowing each of the D-lineman to go man-on-man with the offensive line. The players all use their quickness to generate penetration, and since the center is occupied with Griffin, Lemar Marshall runs free to the ball-carrier. He never ran this formation once against the Jets. He just lined the guys up in terrible situations and they were letting up 4 and 5 yards on a consistent basis. Of those 140 yards you mentioned, 61 came on that reverse play which was simply the result of overpursuit. That part is the player's fault, but otherwise I think it was simple scheming.

If the Skins get gashed by Dillon/Maroney this week against the Patriots, then I'll be worried about the run defense.

[I][B] As for the offense, the receivers are getting open and the line is protecting Brunell. But Brunell's timing isn't there yet. That comes with time. Some holes were getting opened pretty well for Sellers and Betts at times against the Jets, and they took advantage. But those are holes that Portis can turn into 12 yard gains instead of the 6 yard gains that Sellers and Betts were ripping off. The offense will take some time to get in sync fully.[/B][/I][/quote]

AND did you notice that Saunders ran the EXACT same play like 3-4 times in a row?

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[quote=Schneed10;206147]I don't think D'Boyz is trying to trash talk us. I think he's earnestly asking our opinion of the problems.[/quote]

Hey, it's preseason...there are no problems. I was trying to explain that to my wife that these are basically "practice games" to see who makes the team.

Nothing to worry about, except CP's shoulder.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;206147]I don't think D'Boyz is trying to trash talk us. I think he's earnestly asking our opinion of the problems.[/QUOTE]

I just couldn't resist, in light of the ongoing TO saga. It's hard to intentionally compose a message that way, though...

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We have a jai alai message board? Since when? Can I use my 724Skinsfan as my login name?



Oh yeah...Our D is just fine.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/QUOTE]
It's preseason.
Dallas Sucks.

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I think our D will be fine, its the offense and teams that I am a little worried about.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]

Hey man same D that swept through your town last year will be coming soon to a stadium of yours.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]

Our thoughts? It was a bad game. The guys were not mentally in it because it was pre-season. Gibbs wants them more focused than they were, and he was pissed that they didn't put on a better show for the home crowd. At least it wasn't the end of the season playoff deciding game....

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Yeah, at home...against the Rams.

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Hi guys, this is my first post, kinda feel stupid that it is responding to thread started by a dallas fan. However I feel the same way, everyone is making a big deal about these preseason games. While the injury situation is unfortunate, the actual losses don't really matter. The Colts currently are on an 8 game preseason losing streak. I don't hear people saying that their looking bad for the season. Also if you all remember in 1991 when the Skins won their last super bowl they went 0-4 in the preseason. Like some of you all were saying these games are for the coaches to guage what players will actually make the team. By the way is anyone else impressed with the play of Mike Espy, he has been a pleasant surprise. Being loaded at wide receiver hurts his chances but I hope he makes it. Anyways let me know what you all think.

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I WAS impressed until all the drops last game. He alone stalled some drives that could have given Campbell more reps and the Skins more points.

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[quote=hesscl34;206216]Our thoughts? It was a bad game. [/quote]

Nah, it was an intersquad practice & tryout. :oink:

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Wow. The troll uses really poor bait and still manages to get a whole lot of bites.

1) Preseason
2) This coming from a Dallarse fan?
3) STILL Preseason.

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I've never considered D'BOYZ a troll.

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Well, consider him promoted to 'Troll'.

What else would you call obvious baiting?

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]

I dont know what happened to your franchise?
Looks like it needs to be redone like Jerry Jones' facelifts over the years.

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[QUOTE=SkinsTerps424;206239]Hi guys, this is my first post.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the best Redskins site anywhere!

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]

[COLOR=black]Posted Quote from NFL.com regarding TO:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]"Players like Owens obviously don't understand the significance of their actions. I really have wondered just how contrite Owens could be after his last debacle in Philadelphia, but with him wearing a Discovery Team cycling shirt and helmet, he's making a mockery out of Parcells and whatever rules the coach places upon injured players"[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black] [/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Dude, stop asking us what's wrong with our team and start worrying about your own. [/COLOR]

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[quote=SkinsTerps424;206239]Hi guys, this is my first post, kinda feel stupid that it is responding to thread started by a dallas fan. However I feel the same way, everyone is making a big deal about these preseason games. While the injury situation is unfortunate, the actual losses don't really matter. The Colts currently are on an 8 game preseason losing streak. I don't hear people saying that their looking bad for the season. Also if you all remember in 1991 when the Skins won their last super bowl they went 0-4 in the preseason. Like some of you all were saying these games are for the coaches to guage what players will actually make the team. By the way is anyone else impressed with the play of Mike Espy, he has been a pleasant surprise. Being loaded at wide receiver hurts his chances but I hope he makes it. Anyways let me know what you all think.[/quote]

Solid first post.

I'm not quite so much in the camp of "ah it's preseason, it doesn't matter." Preseason doesn't matter for the teams who manage to turn things around before the season starts. But if you're a team who gets overconfident and doesn't change the attitude, or can't pick up the system, or can't get healthy, or can't get timing down between QB and WR, then you're not going to turn things around before the season starts.

We're in a situation where something has to change for us to be able to look back on this preseason and say "see, that preseason we went 1-3, looked like crap, and still made the playoffs." If something doesn't change, we're going to look back and say that preseason was a harbinger of things to come.

We have to:

A) Figure out why we look so bad. Is it overconfidence, injuries, lack of motivation, not understanding the system, not having timing down between QB/WR, vanilla schemes, etc.

and

B) Fix it in a hurry. There should be a sense of urgency on the part of the coaching staff and the players to enact change. And we should not just simply assume it's going to happen.

The thing is we still have a few weeks, so there is time. It's not time to panic yet. But if we don't see some signs of improvement in the last two games, it's officially time to check our expectations for the season.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]


yes gibbs was pissed and he should be....he will get this teams attention before the regular season starts
and yes this is preseason,wake me up when the real games count..
i,m looking forward to seeing that player tonight aren,t you.....from the sidelines..

i,m with matty here --i,m snoring too.

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Just laying in the weeds waiting for you guys!

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For my 500th post I ask that this be locked. I am not going to discuss the best defense in the league with a Cowturd fan who doesnt even have ground to speak on. Its funny he is even here to begin with. Pick a side and stay on it.

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Apparently you do not know who our starters are.

1st preseason against the Bengals - 2 series played total of 19 yards given up.

2nd presason game against the Jets - 1st series 0 yards, 2nd series 40 yards, 3rd series 6 yards Total of 46 yards

Most Starters removed after 1st quarter.

So go back to defendeding the signning of TO and Concrete legs with your fabulous o-line.

CRT is back it is time to rumble.

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[quote=SkinsTerps424;206239]By the way is anyone else impressed with the play of Mike Espy, he has been a pleasant surprise. Being loaded at wide receiver hurts his chances but I hope he makes it. Anyways let me know what you all think.[/quote]



i was more impressed with JIMMY FARRIS, that guy never drops a pass thrown his way. i would like to see him make the team.

ESPY has been hot and cold, he dropped a few very catchable balls last game.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;206093]Hey Guys I didn't actually saw the game followed it by Gamecast, but man your first team defense got torch for more then 140 yards rushing by a crappy Jets running game.

This is suppose to be your strength and the offense that even I believe it's going to be explosive has been non existence

And Man was Gibbs pissed after the game

what are your thoughts about all the things happening?[/quote]

What do I think? I think the same defense that humiliated your pathetic team in the most lopsided game in the rivalry improved over the offseason. What did you guys do besides get rid of your best lineman and pay Roy for getting older and slower?

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too much hate.

it's just preseason. it happens.

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[quote=Schneed10;206147]I don't think D'Boyz is trying to trash talk us. I think he's earnestly asking our opinion of the problems.[/quote]

Schneed10 thxs for your opinion man yeah I wasn't trying to trash talk I wanted and honest direct opinion and I appreciate your really well rounded and based opinion.

I'm a little concerned because I really believe your team is a mayor contender but I haven't seen that yet, I expected some off timing on your offense as you said specially on Brunell I just don't see much on his tank left.

But I really expected your D to dominate specially in the run game I was just surprised your first team d to get run over but you cleared that up really good let's see this weekend how it goes.

Sorry for the delay on the response lost my connection the past days

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[quote=D'BOYZ;207459]Schneed10 thxs for your opinion man yeah I wasn't trying to trash talk I wanted and honest direct opinion and I appreciate your really well rounded and based opinion.

I'm a little concerned because I really believe your team is a mayor contender but I haven't seen that yet, I expected some off timing on your offense as you said specially on Brunell I just don't see much on his tank left.

But I really expected your D to dominate specially in the run game I was just surprised your first team d to get run over but you cleared that up really good let's see this weekend how it goes.

Sorry for the delay on the response lost my connection the past days[/quote]

Domination comes in week 2.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ;207459]Sorry for the delay on the response lost my connection the past days[/QUOTE]

There's a Parcells-TO joke here. I just know there is. Let me ask you a question. Seems like Marion Barber is getting a lot of carries in the red zone this preseason. Is that to keep JJ fresh? Are they going to platoon them? Or is the first step toward phasing Jones out of there? I think that's your big X factor this year, the running game.

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ohh and to the 1 saying it's only preseason MAN I Know.... we all know teams don't show their playbook only "vanilla" plays as they call it.

During preseason I don't care if the team wins or loses. I look for the first team offense to move the chains in the few drives they play, QB look comfortable and in sink with wr, look for the protection of the line and see if they can open holes, if the wr are getting separation.

In case of the D even if they don't blitz a lot try to see the coverage, speed and control on the line.

But specially I try to see the younger guys see if anyone shows something that can contribute to the season more than just practice squad, and if there seems to be any problems get to them before the season starts.

That's why asked you guys about your team