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Donte is probably now their ace at wideout...

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I really don't like this guy in our division. He is very talented and can get deep against any secondary. With the health of Springs an issue this could spell trouble for us down the road. Just think about it McNabb can by time with the speed of Stallworth it can be very dangerous.

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I agree what what a threat if he can stay healthy. Hasnt health always been an issue for him?

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His Class of speed is dangerous. But speed alone is overrated. Just ask Albert Connell, Leslie Sheppard, and antonio brown.

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More importantly, what does this mean for Darkerien?

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aw christ. can we get another corner now?

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thats def bad news for us,it's not like he's washed up,he had a carrer yr last yr

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Stallworth is a great pick-up for them and that's definitely bad news for every team in the division. He can go deep and with Westbrook in the backfield, watch-out!

I'm officially worried about the Eagles because we really don't know what to expect from them. I doubt they'll stinking it up like everyone (including myself) thinks they will. I hope the Eagles have slow start.

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It's nothing we can't handle!

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I don't know. Let's just hope our pass defense shows up better than they did against Daniel Graham and Ben Watson the other night.

With or without Springs, the rest of the secondary -- including Sean Taylor -- got turned around and bent over against Patriot tight ends.

Philly's offense just got way better than it was.

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hes like another jacobs and not living up to expectations.

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Regardless of the addition of Stallworth, we need corner depth pronto. We got torched when Springs was out, and it's a weakness that teams will exploit. Considering our division (bledsoe, mcnabb, manning) we need to be trading some draft picks or something.

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Oh no! Stallworth! Wasn't he practicing with the Saints second string? He's no major upgrade over Reggie Brown or Stinkston (yeah, Pastabelly, I said it) for that matter.

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I've heard that Hank Baskett is a guy to watch out for in Illadelph.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;209557]Oh no! Stallworth! Wasn't he practicing with the Saints second string? He's no major upgrade over Reggie Brown or Stinkston (yeah, Pastabelly, I said it) for that matter.[/quote]

move on or move out... MOVE ON OR MOVE OUT

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[quote=Master4Caster;209467]It's nothing we can't handle![/quote]

True but it is too Eagles advantage their young Bunkley will be a future star and nightmare. Imagine D.Ware times 5. I think he should be DNA tested for Hulk-Itis.

Seems like the love child of the Incredible and the Hulkster.

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The Eagles continue to do their thing and Stallworth is an excellent addition to their football team. This was a good move by their front office and bad news for others in the NFC East.

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We're worried about a guy who's usually hurt more often than he's healthy and who's season best is 945 yards??

I don't think this move changes much in the division. He's a decent #2/#3 guy, but he's not a playmaker that will keep defensive coordinators up at night.

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Ugh. Another reason the Eagles go 3-1 or 4-0 during the first four game stretch. They play shitty teams with the exception being the Giants. Then we get to hear the slurping.

:doh:

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;209514]hes like another jacobs and not living up to expectations.[/quote]

70 catches and nearly 1000 yds is hardly Taylor Jacobs my friend. If this kid is healthy, he could def. give us some problems. Keep in mind too, he had Aaron Brooks pitching him the ball not D. McNabb.

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[quote=Mattyk72;209633]We're worried about a guy who's usually hurt more often than he's healthy and [B]who's season best is 945 yards[/B]??

I don't think this move changes much in the division. He's a decent #2/#3 guy, but he's not a playmaker that will keep defensive coordinators up at night.[/quote]

I'm keying on the bolded part. Can't you make that argument against Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randle-El? Neither of them have come close to cracking the 1000 yard mark.

What Stallworth gives the Eagles is a serious deep threat. No he's not a stud. But he will stretch defenses. If you don't have CBs who can run with him and Reggie Brown (and right now I think we only have one, Carlos Rogers) then you'll have to give safety help over the top. That presents a challenge when you have to watch the middle of the field for LJ Smith who has speed, and you have to get on top of speedy Brian Westbrook in a hurry or else he'll bust one on you.

Stallworth's presence opens up the field for the Eagles just as Lloyd and Randle-El do for the 'Skins. It's not like they just signed Jerry Rice at his peak, but it's an improvement.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;209636]Ugh. Another reason the Eagles go 3-1 or 4-0 during the first four game stretch. They play shitty teams with the exception being the Giants. Then we get to hear the slurping.

:doh:[/quote]

It won't just be slurping. They are our biggest competition this year.

They'll be leading the division on December 1. Then they have to play AT NYG, AT Dallas, and AT Washington. That's when they'll fall on hard times and we'll need another Gibbsian push in December to overtake them.

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Definitely our biggest competition, but when they blow out the likes of the Texans, the media will be all up on their bandwagon.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;209645]Definitely our biggest competition, but when they blow out the likes of the Texans, the media will be all up on their bandwagon.[/quote]

Yeah they should be expected to whip up on the Texans anyway. Hopefully the media doesn't get all wrapped up in that game.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;209633]I don't think this move changes much in the division. He's a decent #2/#3 guy, but he's not a playmaker that will keep defensive coordinators up at night.[/QUOTE]


Sometimes a decent #2 is just the trick for an offense. Not to mention the fact that Stallworth will for the first time in his career have a much more consistent quarterback throwing him the ball.

No, he's not in the mold of a T.O. or Steve Smith, but could he be like a Reggie Wayne?

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Here's the thing, the Eagles went to the NFC Championship game with this coaching staff, this QB, basically this offensive line, this running back, but with Thrash and Pinkston at WR.

This year, they have that same coaching staff, that same QB, basically that same offensive line, that same explosive running back, but with Stallworth and Reggie Brown at WR.

You tell me which is tougher. Nobody should let the Eagles sneak up on them this season.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;209656]Here's the thing, the Eagles went to the NFC Championship game with this coaching staff, this QB, basically this offensive line, this running back, but with Thrash and Pinkston at WR.

This year, they have that same coaching staff, that same QB, basically that same offensive line, that same explosive running back, but with Stallworth and Reggie Brown at WR.

You tell me which is tougher. Nobody should let the Eagles sneak up on them this season.[/QUOTE]

I would add to that a dangerous tight end in L.J. Smith, along with a healthy Corell Buckhalter backing up Westbrook.

Now, the defense was really what enabled the Eagles in their NFC Championship years -- I think there's been a steady, moderate decline in the overall capability of their D, but it's still a force to be reckoned with.

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[quote=Schneed10;209640]I'm keying on the bolded part. Can't you make that argument against Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randle-El? Neither of them have come close to cracking the 1000 yard mark.

What Stallworth gives the Eagles is a serious deep threat. No he's not a stud. But he will stretch defenses. If you don't have CBs who can run with him and Reggie Brown (and right now I think we only have one, Carlos Rogers) then you'll have to give safety help over the top. That presents a challenge when you have to watch the middle of the field for LJ Smith who has speed, and you have to get on top of speedy Brian Westbrook in a hurry or else he'll bust one on you.

Stallworth's presence opens up the field for the Eagles just as Lloyd and Randle-El do for the 'Skins. It's not like they just signed Jerry Rice at his peak, but it's an improvement.[/quote]

Difference is we don't need Lloyd or Randle El to come in and light things up. Philly is in a more desperate situation, you don't bring in a guy this late unless it's due to injury or you have serious doubts about the guys you already have.

Stallworth isn't quite the deep threat he was when he came into the league due to his injury problems.

While he could have an impact for them, I'm just not all that concerned.

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stallworth is much better than anything they've got, and his 945 yards came on the other end of Aaron Brooks. McNabb is ever-so-slightly better.

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[quote=Mattyk72;209661]Difference is we don't need Lloyd or Randle El to come in and light things up. Philly is in a more desperate situation, you don't bring in a guy this late unless it's due to injury or you have serious doubts about the guys you already have.

Stallworth isn't quite the deep threat he was when he came into the league due to his injury problems.

While he could have an impact for them, I'm just not all that concerned.[/quote]

the eagles have a much better QB.

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[quote=Beemnseven;209653]Sometimes a decent #2 is just the trick for an offense. Not to mention the fact that Stallworth will for the first time in his career have a much more consistent quarterback throwing him the ball.[/quote]

Sure, but they don't have a decent #1.

Right now they have a bunch of #2 and #3 guys.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;209665]Sure, but they don't have a decent #1.

Right now they have a bunch of #2 and #3 guys.[/QUOTE]

Just like what they had when they were the best of the NFC just a few seasons ago.

In '99, the emergence of Albert Connell gave us a powerful #1 and #2 where there wasn't before. My point is you never know what a player will bring in terms of chemistry and providing what could be the last essential piece of an offensive puzzle.

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[quote=12thMan;209639]70 catches and nearly 1000 yds is hardly Taylor Jacobs my friend. If this kid is healthy, he could def. give us some problems. Keep in mind too, he had Aaron Brooks pitching him the ball not D. McNabb.[/quote]

Look at that big word in your reply.... IF this kid is healthy. might have had 1 good yr ill give him that like i look for lloyd and RE to have a pretty good yr this yr. I know our db's can handle him.. no need to worry about this one.

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I've said this before and I'll say it again: Reggie Brown had two good games against us last year (171yrds and 3TDs total). While those aren't the biggest numbers, they were enough to make both games nail-biters. He's the only receiver on their team that concerns me at all. Now, Stallworth will help stretch the field. I'm hoping that Brown has a nice big sophomore slump that lasts a few seasons.
Damnit, I don't like the idea that philly's not a pushover.

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[quote=Beemnseven;209658]I would add to that a dangerous tight end in L.J. Smith, along with a healthy Corell Buckhalter backing up Westbrook.

Now, the defense was really what enabled the Eagles in their NFC Championship years -- I think there's been a steady, moderate decline in the overall capability of their D, but it's still a force to be reckoned with.[/quote]

Not sure how much of a decline there really is on defense. Darren Howard is there now, so the pass rush will be strong. The LBs have always been weak outside of Trotter. And the secondary is still young and strong. Dawkins is the only one you might say is aging, and he's still good.

They don't have Corey Simon anymore, so where the D may have dropped off is at DT.

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[quote=Mattyk72;209661]Difference is we don't need Lloyd or Randle El to come in and light things up. Philly is in a more desperate situation, you don't bring in a guy this late unless it's due to injury or you have serious doubts about the guys you already have.

Stallworth isn't quite the deep threat he was when he came into the league due to his injury problems.

While he could have an impact for them, I'm just not all that concerned.[/quote]

Well, I'm not really concerned about the Eagles BECAUSE they brought in Donte Stallworth. I'm concerned about the Eagles because I thought they were already the second best team in the NFC East (besides us) BEFORE they brought in Stallworth.

When you add speed on the outside it forces you to respect the deep ball. I don't think the Eagles need Stallworth to light things up either, because Brian Westbrook is going to be the biggest beneficiary of his presence. The field just got more open for Westbrook, who didn't need a whole lot of extra space to begin with.

My main point is I thought the Eagles were strong from the get-go. They're getting overlooked right now, which is exactly what was happening to the 'Skins last year. That puts a chip on your shoulder.

Never count out a team with a QB as good as McNabb, tackles as good as Tra Thomas and John Runyan, and a back as elusive as Westbrook. I know Gibbs and company aren't overlooking these guys, because they are very dangerous now that they're all healthy.

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Donte will need to develop some timing with McNabb early on, but it won't take him long. I just drafted him Sunday in my Fantasy football league thinking he would be a Saint. Now I am loving him being an Eagle, but absolutely HATING him because I am a Redskins fan. So what is the Depth Chart for WR now in Philly? Brown #1, Stallworth #2, or is Stallworth the #1, because of his experience?

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Not sure where all of this injury talk is coming from. Stallworth has missed one game in that past two seasons for injury. I'd like to think he's not that good of a receiver because now he's an Eagle, but if I'm being honest with myself this move is a great move for the Eagles. If Stallworth was a Skin, he'd be our second best WR. Sure, the Eagles still don't have a marque #1WR........but Brown, Stallworth, Baskett is a heck of a lot better than Brown, Baskett, and anyone else they have (Lewis/Gaffney/Bloom/Avant/Pinkston). They've addressed their biggest need with a great trade and gave up essentially nothing (Simoneau sucks and who cares about a 4th round pick).

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whats stallworths contract status?

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i think he's on the last year of a 5 year deal. i've haven't heard of a new contract as of yet.