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jamf 09-18-2006 05:38 PM

Find a Remedy
 
[QUOTE=Henry Ford (actually its a Quote)]"Don't find a fault. Find a remedy"[/QUOTE]

Time to move on from the drama.

Offensively: Attack down field. Force the defence to breakdown instead of waiting for them to breakdown. Alot less Ladell Betts. Cooley is a natural H-Back. But he struggles in TE blocking and route running situations. Move him around and possibly play him in the slot so he wont get bumped at the line.

Defensively: Not much we can do to add depth. Play ADE more.

Special Teams: Continue to play that way.

Special Note:
I'm happy for Rock. He is a good guy and excellent redskin. I would like to see rock get more carries in the offence.

Dallas: They did a good job of making changes. They didnt let Glenn cover Moss. They made cooley fight to get off the line of scrimmage. They did a good job.

The coaches need to adjust to the players a little bit more. Ladell isnt Portis. Cooley isnt Gonzales.

Longtimefan 09-18-2006 06:38 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;217224]Time to move on from the drama.

Offensively: Attack down field. Force the defence to breakdown instead of waiting for them to breakdown. Alot less Ladell Betts. Cooley is a natural H-Back. But he struggles in TE blocking and route running situations. Move him around and possibly play him in the slot so he wont get bumped at the line.

Defensively: Not much we can do to add depth. Play ADE more.

Special Teams: Continue to play that way.

Special Note:
I'm happy for Rock. He is a good guy and excellent redskin. I would like to see rock get more carries in the offence.

Dallas: They did a good job of making changes. They didnt let Glenn cover Moss. They made cooley fight to get off the line of scrimmage. They did a good job.

The coaches need to adjust to the players a little bit more. Ladell isnt Portis. Cooley isnt Gonzales.[/QUOTE]




I like the title of your post, it headlines one of my sentiments exactly in that the time has come to think of solutions (if we know of any) as opposed to repeatedly pointing out the problem. It's plain for the world to see we have problems, what is not so clear is how do we fix them? We have one of the highest paid, and most experienced coaching staffs in the history of the NFL and I'm counting on them to get it right. There are several things that have been repeatedly pointed out that we feel will bring us some relief, starting with the benching of Brunell, but knowing JG like I do, there's no way he's going to sit Brunell. What we must hope for is that the coaches will continue driving home the points of importance to these players,and that they will finally get it and begin to play the way we all feel they're capable.

skinsguy 09-18-2006 07:48 PM

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It's so refreshing to hear Redskins fans being positive and optimistic. You guys will live alot longer than some here! :)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-18-2006 10:16 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;217276]It's so refreshing to hear Redskins fans being positive and optimistic. You guys will live alot longer than some here! :)[/QUOTE]

If we lose to the Texans next week, I'll be dead by Monday morning.

SouperMeister 09-18-2006 10:50 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
I have a simple cure - start winning in the trenches particularly on passing downs, and we'll start winning games. Brunell has virtually no time to get rid of the ball, hence the deep pass is taken away as a viable option. On the flip side, first Brad Johnson, then Bledsoe had all day to throw, especially on 3rd down. I hate how conservative Gregg Williams is coaching with Springs out. When was the last time he rushed 3 on a crucial 3rd and 10? Bledsoe must have had five seconds to work thru all his progressions before dumping to Marion Barber for the first down that set the stage for T. Glenn's TD that broke the game open.

That Guy 09-19-2006 02:42 AM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
play better. win more.

cowboykiller89 09-19-2006 10:32 AM

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The changes we want most will not occur unless we either lose to the Texans or Mark Brunell gets seriously hurt. I'm not so sure, at this point, if we can even beat the Texans. Afterall, they do have a better Quarterback than we do and we don't have the passrush to alter his game; as Philly and Indy were able to do. I love my Skins but we are in a serious mess here.

MTK 09-19-2006 10:58 AM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
Getting Springs and Portis back to 100% will go a long way in curing our woes.

But we have alot of other issues that need immediate attention. The stupid penalties and mental errors. We're just not playing smart football right now.

We need to play smarter, and we need to play more efficiently on 3rd downs on both sides of the ball.

hesscl34 09-19-2006 11:04 AM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
[quote=Mattyk72;217446]Getting Springs and Portis back to 100% will go a long way in curing our woes.

But we have alot of other issues that need immediate attention. The stupid penalties and mental errors. We're just not playing smart football right now.

We need to play smarter, and we need to play more efficiently on 3rd downs on both sides of the ball.[/quote]

Does ANYONE know the status on Springs??? They keep saying day to day... what does that mean??? 2 weeks, 4, 1????

MTK 09-19-2006 11:06 AM

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I think at this point Springs literally is day to day and could return at any time.

JWsleep 09-19-2006 11:09 AM

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We have to find a way to run the ball consistently--obviously the return of Portis, if he's ready, we'll be a big lift. That brings the safties up, keeps teams out of nickle, and makes a passing game run by a QB with a weak arm possible. Remember, in KC Saunders had an awesome running game. Right now, the O-line's play in general has been shakey, so a lot is on them to step up. But if we can't run, we'll be in long yardage passing downs facing pass rush and nickle. And we've seen we have serious trouble with that!

I don't see the point of having Kenny Wright on the field at this point. THe return of Springs is obviously a big deal, but we need someone to step up and take the third corner role. We also need more pressure from our front four. Funny to find yourself missing Cedric Killings!

I'm willing to accept that some of this is learning the new offense. But come on. And like most others, I'm all for Campbell right now, but no way JG does that. Oh, well. I trust him, but this has always been one of his weakness (if you want to call it that)--he sticks too long with the vet at QB. So Gibbs ought to tell Brunnell to take more chances. Not losing is not enough. You've got to win.

BDBohnzie 09-19-2006 11:14 AM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
Remedy? A few kegs of beer, 2 boats, strippers and a lake...oh wait, that's been done already.

The OLine needs to step up. Too many false starts (hello? you know what the snap count is) and not giving Brunell enough time to throw. Brunell needs to hang in there a moment longer. There were several times on Sunday night that he had open people but didn't step up in the pocket to make the throw.

Defensively, the guys need to tackle better. A lot of whiffs and bad tackling in the first 2 games. Seemed to me that Marcus Washington got beat bad a few times by Jason Witten... GW needs to blitz more, let those who drop back into coverage take care of business.

Cartwright made a helluva runback, but right before that, I kept asking myself why is he back there? If you watch the replay, the Cowboys overpursued and Rock just happened to find the hole. Put Randle El and Thrash back there and let them go to town.

DaveyFoSho 09-19-2006 11:27 AM

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It sucks that we lost to dallas but lets be realistic here..even before preseason and before the Vikings game the sunday night matchup, atleast for me, was always marked as a possible loss. This is not the end of the season guys lets not get ahead of ourselves. Many great teams have had bad weeks. All we need is a little spark to ignite our offense. Portis can and will give us that spark. As for the defense when Springs comes back and its 24 & 22 defending we will be in much much better shape!!!!

DaveyFoSho 09-19-2006 11:30 AM

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It will be much easier for Brunell with portis back as well. With him out defenses knew they did not have to really focus in on our running attack which made it alot harder for Brunell to find the open man. I really think that we should put in Campbell, BUT Brunell might be able to get the job done when defenses are wondering whether Portis will be the one burn them or if its one of our speedy receivers.

cowboykiller89 09-19-2006 11:34 AM

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Yeah, we'll definitely need him soon. Especially in the home game against Dallas, to cover Terry Glenn, who in my opinion is the bigger threat between himself and Terrel Owens. (At least when they play against the Redskins). I'm not so sure if he'll make an immediate impact against the Texans though.

DaveyFoSho 09-19-2006 11:46 AM

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I absolutely hate Terry Glenn. Next time we see Dallas it will be here(THANK GOD!) And with Springs back they will see alot more blitzing. (F Bledsoe) and With Portis back they will see the back of our jerseys in the endzone the entire game!

DaveyFoSho 09-19-2006 11:47 AM

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We left so many people back in coverage and the primary concern seemed to be TO so they had their like 17th string tight end owning us. Bledsoe had all day last game but u better believe GW is sending the house on the first play next game to show them we arent messing around!

RobH4413 09-19-2006 04:27 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
[quote=BDBohnzie;217454]Remedy? A few kegs of beer, 2 boats, strippers and a lake...oh wait, that's been done already.

The OLine needs to step up. Too many false starts (hello? you know what the snap count is) and not giving Brunell enough time to throw. Brunell needs to hang in there a moment longer. There were several times on Sunday night that he had open people but didn't step up in the pocket to make the throw.

Defensively, the guys need to tackle better. A lot of whiffs and bad tackling in the first 2 games. Seemed to me that Marcus Washington got beat bad a few times by Jason Witten... GW needs to blitz more, let those who drop back into coverage take care of business.

Cartwright made a helluva runback, but right before that, I kept asking myself why is he back there? If you watch the replay, the Cowboys overpursued and Rock just happened to find the hole. Put Randle El and Thrash back there and let them go to town.[/quote]

Mabye it was an optical illusion, but he seemed faster than I've ever seen him before. If he has that kind of burst on a consistent level... then I'd be more than happy keeping him back there. I think [U]Mike Sellers[/U] needs to be incorporated in the offense more as well... (the little offense that we have). He probably isn't considered to be a threat outside of the redzone. Sellers seems like he has acquired a burst this year too.

My philosophy is that if someone else steps up when an offense isn't working... then give them the ball. Once we start making plays... then spread the ball baby.

I hope we show up on Sunday. It's long overdue.

Monkeydad 09-19-2006 04:30 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;217340]If we lose to the Texans next week, I'll be dead by Monday morning.[/quote]

DIBS ON YOUR MODERATOR JOB!

warriorzpath 09-19-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
[quote=RobH4413;217568]My philosophy is that if someone else steps up when an offense isn't working... then give them the ball. Once we start making plays... then spread the ball baby.
[/quote]

Good philosophy. That's actually how all teams should be - working or not.

jamf 09-19-2006 04:44 PM

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;217568]Mabye it was an optical illusion, but he seemed faster than I've ever seen him before. If he has that kind of burst on a consistent level... then I'd be more than happy keeping him back there.[/QUOTE]

It wasnt an optical illusion. He ran a 4.42s 40 yard dash at the combine.
[url=http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives2001/draft_2001/combine_analysis_032802.asp]Best performances at Combine - Nawrocki 032802[/url]

RobH4413 09-19-2006 04:50 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
I know it's obvious... but its not happening.

We're not letting out players make plays and thats aggravating. We're stopped before a play can develop, they don't even have a chance. Lets do what works... and that's plow through w/ the backs we have, and don't give up on them. Brunell didn't have a hot route to go to... he rolled into instead of away from blitzes. It's very fixable.

The whole team looks unorchestrated, and that's all on Saunders. IMO Joe Gibbs would be pounding the ball to provide some relief to the O-line (who have proven themselves as elite run blockers). And don't give me that we don't have Portis talk... He is an amazing back... but Duckett, Sellers, and Betts are well above average. Looks like he's coming back next week anyways.

The defense is ok. Rumph is starting to play to his potential, and looks like a good back-up in the works. Rodgers isn't solid, but he is close. With Springs healthy I'm confident we'll return to classic Greg Williams form.

dall-assblows 09-19-2006 04:57 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
if u ask me houston is just what the doctor ordered

Longtimefan 09-19-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Find a Remedy
 
Can anyone PINPOINT exactly where the breakdown seems to come from in the OL? With the exception of Rabach these are the same players who under Steve Spurrier proved they were unable to block for Patrick Ramsey when we lined up in three wide formations. A great deal of our success last year came with max protection, coupled with the running of portis. The question now becomes, is it the players? Madden mentioned in his commentary monday night, it could be we don't have the right players (espically up front) to do what we want to accomplish? What are your thoughts?

dmek25 09-19-2006 07:25 PM

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it seemed like when we went to minimum protection, the cowboys blitzed. why not use the wr screen to hold the dline alittle. last year that was one of our most successful plays

Longtimefan 09-19-2006 07:36 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;217671]it seemed like when we went to minimum protection, the cowboys blitzed. why not use the wr screen to hold the dline alittle. last year that was one of our most successful plays[/QUOTE]


I'm reminded of one series in the game monday night we went with three wide with Duckett in the backfield, and he was eaten by a Dallas defender. I can't remember whether it was the DE or LB but Brunell wound up being sacked on the play. Someone seems to constantly get beat up front, and it apears we miss Portis's blocking as well because there dosen't seem to be anyone picking up the blitzers or anyone who may break free from the OL.


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