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12thMan 10-01-2006 08:26 PM

T.J. Duckett watch
 
Okay, so Duckett looked like he was inactive for a second week in a row. Now, I'm certainly not one that feels like he's been or bust or anything like that. But this could be an interesting development with the way the RBs and the O-line are playing.

My point is, if a key running back goes down elsewhere in the NFL later this year, and again provided that we maintain our health and productivity, it's possible we could part ways with Mr. Duckett.

hesscl34 10-01-2006 08:28 PM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=12thMan;222085]Okay, so Duckett looked like he was inactive for a second week in a row. Now, I'm certainly not one that feels like he's been or bust or anything like that. But this could be an interesting development with the way the RBs and the O-line are playing.

My point is, if a key running back goes down elsewhere in the NFL later this year, and again provided that we maintain our health and productivity, it's possible we could part ways with Mr. Duckett.[/quote]

I say bye, thanks for stopping in.... and don't let the door hit you in the butt. I think him going is better for the team. I think him coming in left a bad taste in the mouths of Betts and Portis.... He's a great player, I wish him well if he goes.

MightyJoeGibbs 10-01-2006 08:29 PM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
why not, wouldnt he be worth a 3,4th rounder pick. However I think we beat the Giants we keep TJ and have an ace in our pocket in case he is needed as we storm into the playoffs.

Big C 10-01-2006 08:30 PM

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him coming has really made betts play better, plus duckett doesnt know the offense

Bushead 10-01-2006 08:31 PM

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He could be added into the mix.

12thMan 10-01-2006 08:31 PM

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Again, I'm not saying he's not useful or that he's a bust but granted he may have some value down the road.

Alvin#40 10-01-2006 08:33 PM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=hesscl34;222086]I say bye, thanks for stopping in.... and don't let the door hit you in the butt. I think him going is better for the team. I think him coming in left a bad taste in the mouths of Betts and Portis.... He's a great player, I wish him well if he goes.[/quote]\

Haaa Hess....he will deff b a part of our O soon. Have no answer why he's inactive but doubt much longer

LadyT 10-01-2006 08:37 PM

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It would be nice to see him actually PLAY before we trade him away. Can't understand why we gave up a 3rd round pick for him and he's inactive for two weeks.

skinsguy 10-01-2006 08:38 PM

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[QUOTE=LadyT;222096]It would be nice to see him actually PLAY before we trade him away. Can't understand why we gave up a 3rd round pick for him and he's inactive for two weeks.[/QUOTE]

Insurance..............

jbcjr14 10-01-2006 08:40 PM

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He is inactive due to the tight end situation. I think with Cooley and Fauria getting healthy he will be active soon. He is EXCELLENT insurance.

Beemnseven 10-01-2006 10:21 PM

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We'll be glad we have him next season when Ladell Betts signs that fat contract with his new team.

Blame Duckett's inactive role on the NFL and its arcane roster rules.

SmootSmack 10-01-2006 10:25 PM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
For two weeks in a row, I've forgotten to bench Duckett and take Portis off the bench in my fantasy football team.

I need to hire someone to run my fantasy team, handle the day-to-day details

FRPLG 10-02-2006 12:38 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
He is insurance. With the way our offense obvously needs a good Rb in there I think we keep him in case Betts or Portis goes down. I love Rock but i don't want to see him getting 7-12 carries regularly because of injuries.

MTK 10-02-2006 08:53 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=TAFKAS;222193]For two weeks in a row, I've forgotten to bench Duckett and take Portis off the bench in my fantasy football team.

I need to hire someone to run my fantasy team, handle the day-to-day details[/quote]

I'm not complaining! ;)

MTK 10-02-2006 08:54 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
Duckett is just an insurance policy right now.

With the way Betts is running and Cartwright returning kicks full-time, it's going to be pretty hard to get Duckett suited up.

NAVYSKINSFAN 10-02-2006 10:40 AM

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Betts is up next year right? Someone will pay him alot more than we will with portis around. Duckett will be the number two next year, and like said before he is great to have in the pocket incase either of our main backs get hurt.

bigmarley4 10-02-2006 10:56 AM

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[quote=NAVYSKINSFAN;222439]Betts is up next year right? Someone will pay him alot more than we will with portis around. Duckett will be the number two next year, and like said before he is great to have in the pocket incase either of our main backs get hurt.[/quote]

I think we can safely assume Duckett will be inactive for all games where there is not a significant injury to a RB (or a really bad game from Betts where he fumbles like 3 times or something). No team can afford to use 4 roster spots on RB's. We will have Portis, Betts and Rock active for every game they are healthy. I like to have TJD in the wings but I wish we could somehow get him in the mix regularly.

hurrykaine 10-02-2006 11:38 AM

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Can TJ beat up on people like Brandon Jacobs can?

That Guy 10-03-2006 12:12 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=NAVYSKINSFAN;222439]Betts is up next year right? Someone will pay him alot more than we will with portis around. Duckett will be the number two next year, and like said before he is great to have in the pocket incase either of our main backs get hurt.[/quote]

duckett is up next year, and i'm not sure he'll want to stay if he's inactive for 16 games. betts is a good pass catcher, duckett, not so much.

as far as talent, duckett wins and he's a nice pounder with surprising speed, but betts has found a role as the 3rd down pass catching back here (he and chester taylor are basically clones).

12thMan 10-03-2006 09:13 AM

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Ditto that Guy. Betts seems to finding his groove in Saunders offense. If I had my druthers, I would keep Betts over Duckett.

MTK 10-03-2006 09:22 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
Duckett is a nice insurance policy right now. Before the year is out I think he'll play an important role. Right now it's just a numbers game preventing him from dressing.

Gibbs raised a good point in the presser, if they are paying these guys why can't they play them? Does anyone know the rationale behind having to keep 7 guys inactive each week?

I found an interesting article that brings up the same question.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7786742]NFL.com - NFL News[/url]

12thMan 10-03-2006 09:27 AM

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I still think if a viable trade opportunity came up before the deadline the Skins would weigh their options with Duckett. Of course, all things being equal.

Drift Reality 10-03-2006 09:28 AM

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He was mainly signed because they were unsure about how Portis would rehabilitate from his injury. Now that Portis has fully recovered and Betts is playing as solidly as he is, it seems as though it was a bad move in hindsight. I definitely think if a team made the right offer (a 3rd rounder) the Skins would think seriously about letting him go.

12thMan 10-03-2006 09:29 AM

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Of course, we're one nicked Portis shoulder or a Betts hammy from seeing a lot of Duckett. You never know, especially in the NFL.

MTK 10-03-2006 09:39 AM

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[quote=12thMan;223084]Of course, we're one nicked Portis shoulder or a Betts hammy from seeing a lot of Duckett. You never know, especially in the NFL.[/quote]

Exactly.

And with their injury history, it's not so far fetched to imagine one or both of them missing some time at some point this year.

12thMan 10-03-2006 09:41 AM

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True that. It will be an interesting side story as the season unfolds.

I'll say this, Rock and Betts have had a fire under their butts since he's come to town.

artmonkforhallofamein07 10-03-2006 09:58 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
With the way Betts is playing right now, will we be able to afford him next year? Is it just me or is Betts a better back when he is playing with Portis in the game as well. He didn't seem to be very good in the Dallas game but with Portis splitting time with him, he's making better runs.

I think we try to sign Betts now and trade TJ for our draft pick back. We need it.

12thMan 10-03-2006 10:13 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
Although I started the thread what about Duckett, I think we hold on to him for now. In fact, I would expect them to do so. Still a trade later on down the road wouldn't shock me. If the Skins had to choose, let's say, during the off season between the two, I would think they would lean toward Betts. Simply because he's been a Redskin for a while now.

I would agree, that Betts is a good change of pace back. I don't like how the guys calling the game Sunday tried to compare him and Portis. They really are two different backs.

61cad 10-03-2006 10:15 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
My guess is he the style of runner Al Saunders likes.

He stays!

redsk1 10-03-2006 10:18 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
I still don't see it making alot of sense. I say trade him if somebody offers us a decent deal.

Every team in the nfl can say that we're just 2 injuries away from being in trouble.

RiggoRules 10-03-2006 10:19 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
Obviously, I don't have all the information the coaches have, but big picture, I'd go with TJ over Betts.

My feeling is the size and proven success in short yardage is something that fits better with Portis than having two, relatively undersized RBs.

In fact, if we had Duckett on the field during the 3rd and 1 right before the 2 minute, I don't think the game goes to OT.

12thMan 10-03-2006 10:19 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=redsk1;223111]I still don't see it making alot of sense. I say trade him if somebody offers us a decent deal.

Every team in the nfl can say that we're just 2 injuries away from being in trouble.[/quote]

Unfortunately, one of those teams include the Redskins.

12thMan 10-03-2006 10:21 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=RiggoRules;223113]Obviously, I don't have all the information the coaches have, but big picture, I'd go with TJ over Betts.

My feeling is the size and proven success in short yardage is something that fits better with Portis than having two, relatively undersized RBs.

In fact, if we had Duckett on the field during the 3rd and 1 right before the 2 minute, I don't think the game goes to OT.[/quote]

Well that's all conjecture about what Duckett could have or would have done, because we just don't know. What we do know, is that Portis and Betts are finding a real groove in Al's offense. Not to mention that battering ram named Sellers.

RiggoRules 10-03-2006 10:27 AM

Re: T.J. Duckett watch
 
[quote=12thMan;223115]Well that's all conjecture about what Duckett could have or would have done, because we just don't know. What we do know, is that Portis and Betts are finding a real groove in Al's offense. Not to mention that battering ram named Sellers.[/quote]

I agree that my post was wildly speculative.

However, what isn't conjecture is:

-We didn't make the 3rd down that would have essentially sealed the game.
-We have been absolutely horrible in 3rd & 1 situations (3rd & 2 and 3rd & 3 have been shockingly bad as well) this year.
-TJ is a proven dominator in short yardage situations.

So while it is conjecture as to what would have happened, I don't think it is outrageous to suggest that the probability is that TJ has a better chance in 3rd and 1 than Betts does.

12thMan 10-03-2006 10:29 AM

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Agreed, agreed.

I don't think it was wildly speculative, I was just trying to use a $50 word:)


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