Burgundy Army: Gameplanning for the NY Giants
 

It’s tough to determine which Giants team the Redskins will face this weekend. Will it be the team that fell to deficits of 35-0 and 42-3 against Seattle? Or will it be the team that came back from a 17-point fourth quarter deficit to defeat the Philadelphia Eagles in overtime during Week 2? The Redskins must be prepared to face the latter. With that in mind, the following keys will be of the utmost importance to the Redskins’ gameplan.

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well written article, schneed ... good analysis. Thanks!

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I believe our O-line determines the outcome. If they can get Portis running downhill as they did against the Jags, Brunell won't be faced with many 3rd and longs, which opens up the downfield attack as NY commits a safety to help against the run. And BTW, is there a better lead blocker in the NFL than Mike Sellers? He was blowing guys up last Sunday.

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i think the 36-0 game seems like decades ago. we are a totally different team from that game( in a good way) and the giants are totally different team, also( in a bad way) good read. the skins have, for the most part, kept barber in check. and the giants corners are horrible. if our offensive line gives brunell time, we should win easily

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[quote=dmek25;224307]i think the 36-0 game seems like decades ago. we are a totally different team from that game( in a good way) and the giants are totally different team, also( in a bad way) good read. the skins have, for the most part, kept barber in check. and the giants corners are horrible. if our offensive line gives brunell time, we should win easily[/quote]

Yeah agreed, we'll put points all over the board if Brunell has time to throw. The line protected great against the Jags (no sacks) and fixed the penalty problem. It's quite a bit tougher to do that in someone else's stadium where it's noisy and you're on a silent count, that's the only part that makes me nervous. But if the Skins line keeps penalties to a minimum and keeps Brunell upright for this AWAY game, then not only will they win but I'll be convinced that we're in Super Bowl form.

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Nice Work Schneed. I really believe this game will come down to coaching, particularly making adjustments on the fly.

And, I say this with complete impartiality ;), Coughlin and his staff are no match for Gibbs and his gangstas

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Very good insight.

2 questions:
1) Will our WR/RB-screens help to combat the speed of their DEs or is good blocking really the only way to handle it?
2) Have you heard anything about Shockey's health? I feel like he's been noticably limping everytime I see him but I haven't heard anything about why.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;224335]Nice Work Schneed. I really believe this game will come down to coaching, particularly making adjustments on the fly.

And, I say this with complete impartiality ;), Coughlin and his staff are no match for Gibbs and his gangstas[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better myself TAFKAS!

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To be honest...the only people who scare me on the giants are....both DE's Burress and Pierce....the rest of them are a joke....well maybe Tiki as well.....

You havent heard anything about Shockey because they told his big ass to STFU and never to speak again.....

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(He is currently in time out)

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;224337]Very good insight.

2 questions:
1) Will our WR/RB-screens help to combat the speed of their DEs or is good blocking really the only way to handle it?
2) Have you heard anything about Shockey's health? I feel like he's been noticably limping everytime I see him but I haven't heard anything about why.[/quote]

That first question is a really good one. Saunders used the quick dump offs in the Houston game because I think in the Cowboy game right before it he saw how bad the line got owned by Dallas. So the remedy was to get the ball out of Brunell's hands sooner. Certainly any screens and quick slants are a great way to take Strahan and Osi out of the equation. Of course you'd like to be able to threaten the deep part of the field at times too, just to keep the safeties from creeping up. Saunders will probably try a mix, and like TAFKAS said, since the Skins coaching staff is so superior, he'll probably adjust as the game goes along based on how the tackles are holding up against the pass rush. If the pass rush is killing Brunell he can run RB and WR screens, draws, keep Cooley in, and quick slants. If the pass rush isn't getting to Brunell, he can run just about anything.

I have Shockey on one of my fantasy teams, and Yahoo's little yellow note next to his name said that he practiced pretty well yesterday and is looking pretty healed. He had a sore ankle, but seems closer to 100% now. We've given up a lot of plays to TEs and RBs in the passing game so far, he'll be a headache for us. We'll need to commit LBs to covering him, so the front four is going to have to get the pressure.

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And, I say this with complete impartiality ;), Coughlin and his staff are no match for Gibbs and his gangstas[/quote]

is there any coach/coaching staff in the league that can match wits with mr gibbs and company?

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its the truth...they are no match...al saunders offense makes even the second string guys look like future hall of famers

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[QUOTE=dmek25;224409]And, I say this with complete impartiality ;), Coughlin and his staff are no match for Gibbs and his gangstas[/quote]

is there any coach/coaching staff in the league that can match wits with mr gibbs and company?[/QUOTE]

Well I think Gibbs has a real challenge on his hands when he faces the likes of Bill Parcells, a Tom Coughlin I'm not so worried about wits wise

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[quote=TAFKAS;224423]is there any coach/coaching staff in the league that can match wits with mr gibbs and company. Well I think Gibbs has a real challenge on his hands when he faces the likes of Bill Parcells, a Tom Coughlin I'm not so worried about wits wise[/quote]

If wits were tits the Giants would have to be bottle fed.

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[quote=dmek25;224409]And, I say this with complete impartiality ;), Coughlin and his staff are no match for Gibbs and his gangstas[/quote]

is there any coach/coaching staff in the league that can match wits with mr gibbs and company?[/quote]
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I agree that the O-line is the key to this game. I think the counter gap could work to either side. I also like the fact that Saunders has been running out of three and four wide sets. There is no reason that that wouldn't work against N.Y. as well. . Pass wise, I like flair control with Cooley, Fauria, and Sellars to slow down the ends. I might also try the Go Route with LLoyd. Whoever guards him is bound to be the dregs, right? And if he can get COMPLETELY behind the defense, he doesn't have to worry about getting hit.

On an off the wall note, I look for Ade Jimoh to make a big play in this game, somewhere, somehow. You can only keep him down so long.

Lastly, let's hope that the weather is nice. 20 mile winds could really help them because it might limit our passing game. I would guess that Eli would be less affected by wind than Mark B. Also, Hall into a strong Meadowlands wind (the one that blows right to left across your radio dial) would not be dependable beyond 35 or 40 yards.

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This hasn't really gotten much press, but is anyone else as worried as I am about Randy Thomas's hamstring injury. He said that by the end of the Jags came he couldn't pull any more so they were only running up the middle and/or pulling from the left side w/Dockery.

Thomas is one of if not the best pulling guards in the league, and if he can't move out quickly, our rushing attack will be limited (I was going to say hamstrung, but that was too cheesy even for me).

Any word on this injury? He's listed as probably for the game, but he's still on the injury report which means he is still getting treatment for the problem.

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I think if he can play then it is only a strain. Of course a strain can turn into a pull real quick so I think they'll be carefull with him in the play calling.

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I had no idea that Thomas was knicked. That does kind of suck. Hopefully that clears up!

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[quote=Mc2guy;224536]This hasn't really gotten much press, but is anyone else as worried as I am about Randy Thomas's hamstring injury. He said that by the end of the Jags came he couldn't pull any more so they were only running up the middle and/or pulling from the left side w/Dockery.

Thomas is one of if not the best pulling guards in the league, and if he can't move out quickly, our rushing attack will be limited (I was going to say hamstrung, but that was too cheesy even for me).

Any word on this injury? He's listed as probably for the game, but he's still on the injury report which means he is still getting treatment for the problem.[/quote]

He is listed as probably for the game.... I'm sure he'll play. Cornelis is also listed as probable...due to a sore hip.

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i don't think it was major, and thomas has been the most consistant and solid (and fastest) guy on that line, so i'd expect him to be ready to go.