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Ok guys, quit bashing Saunders, we really need him, bc Gibbs has even admit that he hasn't adapted fully to the game. Al ran an amazing offense in KC, an d they opened it up. Brunell cannot pass deep well, and I think both him and Al know that. Brunell is scared to pass deep so he doesnt, and Al is scared he will throw a pick.

Our offense has shown that it can be much better than last year, but it has not fully gelled with everyone, and don't expect it to until the end of the season. And god, please stop crying for Al's head, or even Gibbs. That is just ignorant and stupid, Gibbs is by far the best chance the Skins have to get to the playoffs, and GW is as well.

I honestly thought this game would be close, and that we would win, but that did not happen. You really can't blame Al, from getting away from the run. There was a point, after the 1st quarter, which we were getting stuffed in the run, and our O-line was not performing well. I think some blame falls on him, for not running Portis more, but regardless Brunell did not perform consistantly in the oppurtunities he was given.

Oh yeah, btw our defense sucks pretty hard.

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Even Gibbs, or GW, I am sick of people calling for their heads. Yeah they def need to work this week and get the damn players in line, but our current coaching staff is the best chance we have to win.

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[quote=hooskins;228930]Ok guys, quit bashing Saunders, we really need him, bc Gibbs has even admit that he hasn't adapted fully to the game. Al ran an amazing offense in KC, an d they opened it up. Brunell cannot pass deep well, and I think both him and Al know that. Brunell is scared to pass deep so he doesnt, and Al is scared he will throw a pick.

Our offense has shown that it can be much better than last year, but it has not fully gelled with everyone, and don't expect it to until the end of the season. And god, please stop crying for Al's head, or even Gibbs. That is just ignorant and stupid, Gibbs is by far the best chance the Skins have to get to the playoffs, and GW is as well.

I honestly thought this game would be close, and that we would win, but that did not happen. You really can't blame Al, from getting away from the run. There was a point, after the 1st quarter, which we were getting stuffed in the run, and our O-line was not performing well. I think some blame falls on him, for not running Portis more, but regardless Brunell did not perform consistantly in the oppurtunities he was given.

Oh yeah, btw our defense sucks pretty hard.[/quote]
I agree that we must keep Al because we're still adjusting to an offense that is proven to work. Most importantly, for Jason Campbell to ever develop, we must keep an offense in place for more than one season. I do disagree when you say we were getting stuffed on the run in the first quarter - two TD drives with many excellent runs in both. Perhaps Al did get away from the run, but even worse, the Defense did nothing to stop Travis Henry from running all over us which led to a huge disparity in time of possession.

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who else is at fault here? last year we ran a power game and won 6 games in a row. I am sorry, this crap we are running now is a joke. we played the worst rush defense in the NFL and Portis touches the ball 15 times? are you kidding me? we are up 14-3 and cant get the ball into his hands? we are down three with 5 minutes plus to go and we throw the ball 3 times in a row. the play calling was awful. we played like we were down 10. you pay Portis all this money and you take the game out of his hands, againt might I mind you, against THE WORST RUSH D IN THE NFL. A TEAM THAT HASN'T WON A GAME!!!! I say all scaps the play book and go with what won us the games last year to get us in the playoffs. portis left, portis right, portis up the gut!! this finesse crap isn't working. our O line isn't built for this bullshit.

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[quote=#56fanatic;228976]who else is at fault here? last year we ran a power game and won 6 games in a row. I am sorry, this crap we are running now is a joke. we played the worst rush defense in the NFL and Portis touches the ball 15 times? are you kidding me? we are up 14-3 and cant get the ball into his hands? we are down three with 5 minutes plus to go and we throw the ball 3 times in a row. the play calling was awful. we played like we were down 10. you pay Portis all this money and you take the game out of his hands, againt might I mind you, against THE WORST RUSH D IN THE NFL. A TEAM THAT HASN'T WON A GAME!!!! I say all scaps the play book and go with what won us the games last year to get us in the playoffs. portis left, portis right, portis up the gut!! this finesse crap isn't working. our O line isn't built for this bullshit.[/quote]

Dude you are just repeating what Sonny Jurgenson was saying after the game. Our offense will eventually be sick nasty. Our players didn't executte, and our D sucked. Period.

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it's not even that hard to spell out.

the redskins have sucked.

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People are upset b/c we are so in bed contractually that even if we wanted to fire or replace it would cost so much to break those contracts we wouldn't even be able to replace them at all.

Damned cuz we did, damned cuz we can't.
Hooray Redskins you would finish 2nd in the special olympics and 2nd is good enough for me in my heart.

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The last passof the game was not Al's fault it was Brunnel's for not recognizing the quintuplet coverage on Moss. He should have gone to the next option.

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[quote=hooskins;228980]Dude you are just repeating what Sonny Jurgenson was saying after the game. Our offense will eventually be sick nasty. Our players didn't executte, and our D sucked. Period.[/quote]

Hey Hooskins.. Tough day. Bless you man..... but when is this [B]Eventually[/B] you speak of???- Like the offseason when they go against our crappy Defense or do you mean next year when we can make all the wild claims of how great we are during training camp.

This shit is DeJaVu every freaking year....
Next years big offseason signing will be ....

[SIZE=6][B]the return of Andy Katzenmoyer, Brian Bosworth, and Akili Smiths Nephew Achilles Smith[/B][/SIZE]

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[quote=hooskins;228930]Ok guys, quit bashing Saunders, we really need him, bc Gibbs has even admit that he hasn't adapted fully to the game. Al ran an amazing offense in KC, an d they opened it up. Brunell cannot pass deep well, and I think both him and Al know that. Brunell is scared to pass deep so he doesnt, and Al is scared he will throw a pick.

Our offense has shown that it can be much better than last year, but it has not fully gelled with everyone, and don't expect it to until the end of the season. And god, please stop crying for Al's head, or even Gibbs. That is just ignorant and stupid, Gibbs is by far the best chance the Skins have to get to the playoffs, and GW is as well.

I honestly thought this game would be close, and that we would win, but that did not happen. You really can't blame Al, from getting away from the run. There was a point, after the 1st quarter, which we were getting

stuffed in the run, and our O-line was not performing well. I think some blame falls on him, for not running Portis more, but regardless Brunell did not perform consistantly in the oppurtunities he was given.

Oh yeah, btw our defense sucks pretty hard.[/quote]

I hear ya my friend. Brunell had a bad day...again...i believe its time for a change...But deff NOT offensive play calling fault. Throw a little D into that pot of blame.

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[quote=Alvin#40;228999]I hear ya my friend. Brunell had a bad day...again...i believe its time for a change...But deff NOT offensive play calling fault. Throw a little D into that pot of blame.[/quote]

Yeah, when the defense shows up they have a lot of questions to answer, too bad they stole ... my heart.. and ran away to Mexico.

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[quote=MightyJoeGibbs;229004]Yeah, when the defense shows up they have a lot of questions to answer, too bad they stole ... my heart.. and ran away to Mexico.[/quote]

:cheeky-sm

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[quote=Alvin#40;228999]I hear ya my friend. Brunell had a bad day...again...i believe its time for a change...But deff NOT offensive play calling fault. Throw a little D into that pot of blame.[/quote]


Toss an extra dash of D and Special Teams(for blocked punt/safety) into that pot for me....:Flush:

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I agree, while I do think they should have run Clinton Portis more, but it's hard for me to believe that no one is running deep when Brunell is throwing 5 yard passes on 3rd and 8. The only time Brunell throws it deep is when they look they're done. I don't believe for a second that Brunell's only options are short routes. He's just not throwing it down the field.

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He rarely gets to the point where he's looking for the deep ball. Just watch a game this season and see how quick he is to go to the outlet option. Pathetic.

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We can sit and talk about all the players that should be benched, but bottom line is that we as a TEAM, suck. The play calling I believe has been fine, I wish Portis would have gotten more touches, but its the execution. We can't execute a thing. We are the Yankees of the NFL. Great on paper, wishy washy on the field. We have the talent, but not the execution.

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Does anybody ever get really bad gas and have no idea what you ate that made it so bad or how long it will last??? Its the worst.

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At least Philly lost in conference today, so that's good. I thought the Giants would lose badly, but they played real good today. We're clearly the worst team in the division as of now, and we need some division and conference wins bad. If we can't beat Dallas at home after the bye, we do not deserve to be in the league this year.

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[quote=twinskinsfan;229071]We can sit and talk about all the players that should be benched, but bottom line is that we as a TEAM, suck. The play calling I believe has been fine, I wish Portis would have gotten more touches, but its the execution. We can't execute a thing. We are the Yankees of the NFL. Great on paper, wishy washy on the field. We have the talent, but not the execution.[/quote]

Thank you, it is execution folks, not the freaking play calling.

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[QUOTE=MightyJoeGibbs;229075]Does anybody ever get really bad gas and have no idea what you ate that made it so bad or how long it will last??? Its the worst.[/QUOTE]

POST OF THE WEEK ALERT!!!!

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[quote=Alvin#40;228999]I hear ya my friend. Brunell had a bad day...again...i believe its time for a change...But deff NOT offensive play calling fault. Throw a little D into that pot of blame.[/quote]
Nothing wrong with this post.... I agree...sums it up nicely...short but sweet..

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If anyone blamed the game today on Saunders it makes no sense to argue with them because they have no idea what they are watching.

Travis Henry destroyed us today. Travis f-ing Henry.

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What's with the STFU in the thread title?

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[quote=TAFKAS;229164]What's with the STFU in the thread title?[/quote]

Stfu tends to make my weak arguements much stronger...Actually I was pissed when I posted this thread, bc people were bashing Saunders.

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It's a very emotional time for us all....

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brian mitchell said that al saunders doesnt trust brunell to run his offense so he limits his playbook and his playcalling

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[QUOTE=Big C;229177]brian mitchell said that al saunders doesnt trust brunell to run his offense so he limits his playbook and his playcalling[/QUOTE]

It was no more evident than the game against the Texans, you could see that Saunders called every play under the sun that he could think of to move the ball without actually having Brunell to have to throw the ball downfield, so he set a record big deal, 22 passes for about 50 yards before YAC. Unfortunatly D-coordinators see that and take it away and force Brunell to have to throw downfield, the game plan is simple stack for the run and the short passing game and force Brunell to beat you deep, not only can't he, but he won't even try, end result 2-4.

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Right now we have no offensive identity.

I'm wondering if there isn't some resistance there from the players not buying into this offense.

We really need to focus on an identity and stick with it.

Run the damn football! I felt like it was 2003 all over again yesterday. We should have pounded those guys into the ground.

Something is seriously wrong when Travis Henry gets 32 carries and Portis gets 14. It doesn't take a genius to guess the winner of the game just by looking at that stat.

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[quote=Big C;229177]brian mitchell said that al saunders doesnt trust brunell to run his offense so he limits his playbook and his playcalling[/quote]

I heard the same thing after the horrible preseason performance from the offense. When asked about the limitations of the passing attack, Saunders basically said "Kurt Warner won a superbowl in his first year with my offense."

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;229164]What's with the STFU in the thread title?[/QUOTE]

That seems to be the only way people under 30 can communicate on this site.

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[QUOTE=irish;229347]That seems to be the only way people under 30 can communicate on this site.[/QUOTE]

yeah, we are such immature little kids arent we :Smoker:

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;229332]Right now we have no offensive identity.

I'm wondering if there isn't some resistance there from the players not buying into this offense.

We really need to focus on an identity and stick with it.

Run the damn football! I felt like it was 2003 all over again yesterday. We should have pounded those guys into the ground.

Something is seriously wrong when Travis Henry gets 32 carries and Portis gets 14. It doesn't take a genius to guess the winner of the game just by looking at that stat.[/QUOTE]


I think its exactly the opposite. I think the coaches dont believe they have the players to run the offense.

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[quote=irish;229351]I think its exactly the opposite. I think the coaches dont believe they have the players to run the offense.[/quote]

Run what, Saunders' cutesy offense?

If that's what they believe they need to stop forcing the issue and instead tailor things towards the talent we have. We're cut out for being a running team right now and the coaches need to call the game accordingly. Otherwise it's like trying to force a square peg through a round hole.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;229354]Run what, Saunders' cutesy offense?

If that's what they believe they need to stop forcing the issue and instead tailor things towards the talent we have. We're cut out for being a running team right now and the coaches need to call the game accordingly. Otherwise it's like trying to force a square peg through a round hole.[/QUOTE]

Yes, thats why AS was brought to DC, to run his offense. Everyone said Gibbs was too conservative last year (and Gibbs by his own admission said he needed help getting up to date offensively) so to address that problem he went to KC got As and now they have an 700 page playbook that it seems AS does not think he has the players to do.

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Only problem i have with saunders this game is that were playing the worst team against the run and portis gets 14 carries. explain that one to me

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[quote=irish;229362]Yes, thats why AS was brought to DC, to run his offense. Everyone said Gibbs was too conservative last year (and Gibbs by his own admission said he needed help getting up to date offensively) so to address that problem he went to KC got As and now they have an 700 page playbook that it seems AS does not think he has the players to do.[/quote]

Well it's time to face the facts that either we don't have the personnel or the adjustment period is taking longer than expected. In the meantime we need to change things up or the season will be over before it even started.

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[QUOTE=bigm29;229372]Only problem i have with saunders this game is that were playing the worst team against the run and portis gets 14 carries. explain that one to me[/QUOTE]

rush attempts by Moss and Randle El. Sellers had some too. i expect some rush attempts by Dockery next.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;229374]Well it's time to face the facts that either we don't have the personnel or the adjustment period is taking longer than expected. In the meantime we need to change things up or the season will be over before it even started.[/QUOTE]

The skins dont have the personnel. Sad but true.

If the skins change things up AGAIN, when will the AS offense get implemented?