Just to set the record straight (Denver Draft Pick in 07')
 

Just to set the record straight.....

The only way that the Broncos get to trade with our first round pick in 2007 is if we have pick #21-30 and they have a higher number in that catagory. (Ie' we have #21 and they have #28, then they would pick 21st and we'd pick 28th)....

If we continue to be the worst team ever, and get a top 5 pick, we will keep it unless we trade it elsewhere.

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Thanks, man. Any little thing helps right now!

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Thank heavens.

Now let's just hope the front office doesn't give us another dud like Carlos Rogers.

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[quote=Beemnseven;232508]Thank heavens.

Now let's just hope the front office doesn't give us another dud like Carlos Rogers.[/quote]
carlos rogers is good

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[QUOTE=steveo395;232515]carlos rogers is good[/QUOTE]

Sorry, just not seeing it.

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[quote=steveo395;232515]carlos rogers is good[/quote]
I would say Rogers is talented, but has a ways to go before we can say he's good. It doesn't help that our front seven has been horrible. Yes there have been injuries, but I never imagined that after adding Archuleta and Carter that we'd be this bad. I'd call that subtraction by addition. Ryan Clark never looked so good.

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Way to make lemonade...

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We've got a 1st, 5th, 6th, and 7th. We traded a high 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh; a guy who has yet to crack the starting lineup. We traded a high 3rd rounder for TJ Duckett; a guy who has yet to be used at all. We traded a high 4th rounder for Lloyd; a guy who can't get the ball because Brunell cannot see anyone but Moss or Betts. Frustrating anyone?

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;232236]Just to set the record straight.....

The only way that the Broncos get to trade with our first round pick in 2007 is if we have pick #21-30 and they have a higher number in that catagory. (Ie' we have #21 and they have #28, then they would pick 21st and we'd pick 28th)....

If we continue to be the worst team ever, and get a top 5 pick, we will keep it unless we trade it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]



Link?

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;232508]Thank heavens.

Now let's just hope the front office doesn't give us another dud like Carlos Rogers.[/QUOTE]

He's not playing like a top 10 pick....

but he's more than servicable in my opinion. He's getting alot more heat than he deserves so far this season.

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[QUOTE=drew54;232539]Link?[/QUOTE]

Just trust me.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;232538]We've got a 1st, 5th, 6th, and 7th. We traded a high 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh; a guy who has yet to crack the starting lineup. We traded a high 3rd rounder for TJ Duckett; a guy who has yet to be used at all. We traded a high 4th rounder for Lloyd; a guy who can't get the ball because Brunell cannot see anyone but Moss or Betts. Frustrating anyone?[/QUOTE]

Its not frustrating me that McIntosh hasent cracked the lineup yet, he's still only 7 games into his rookie year.....

but I dont understand why we gave up a 2nd round pick to move up a few slots. I feel like we could have done it for less.

I'll never understand the Duckett thing.

I'm fine with the Lloyd trade, that will work out for us in the long run I think.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;232546]Its not frustrating me that McIntosh hasent cracked the lineup yet, he's still only 7 games into his rookie year.....

but I dont understand why we gave up a 2nd round pick to move up a few slots. I feel like we could have done it for less.

I'll never understand the Duckett thing.

I'm fine with the Lloyd trade, that will work out for us in the long run I think.[/QUOTE]


There were times when I questioned the need for linebacker -- with Springs getting up there, I always thought one more stab at a cornerback was a bigger need. Jimmy Williams was still there when we traded up. But we moved up quite a bit to get McIntosh -- it wasn't just a few spots.

Just checked NFL.com -- we went from #53 to #35 in the 2nd round to get Rocky.

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Instead of trading up for players this year how about the Skins' take a different approach--say trade their first for a later first plus an additional pick.

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[quote=steveo395;232515]carlos rogers is good[/quote]

He is a nickelback at best, right now.

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The front office places little value in draft picks. They give way too high picks for average players. A 3rd for Burnell, a throw-in 2nd rounder for Portis, 1st for Coles, the Duckett panic trade, and more.

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So guys, the question becomes now, with our practically guaranteed top ten pick, who do we get? What need will become more pressing then ever?

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we need to see if JC can play if not get quinn from ND

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;232603]He is a nickelback at best, right now.[/quote]

not on this defense. a top 10 CB should be a number 1, but right now he's a #2 at best. he is a good tackler and decent in zone, has size, but he gives too much cushion and isn't all that fast for a CB, drops ints, and struggles in man, which is disappointing :/.

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a top 10 pick should be able to come in and make plays . almost a sure fire pick. rogers was better last year at #2 corner. not sure if he can make it as a number one. so far it doesnt look like it

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I like the idea of trading our 1st rounder to move down in the 1st and get another pick later in the draft. Then, use our 1st to get a good DB ... anyone know who will be available?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;232713]I like the idea of trading our 1st rounder to move down in the 1st and get another pick later in the draft. Then, use our 1st to get a good DB ... anyone know who will be available?[/quote]

too early, and strategy depends totally on players available. just cause we need a db doesn't mean one will be there for us. the only best rookie WRs this year, for example are reggie bush and m colston (undrafted).

a top 10 pick wasn't good enough, so the chances of a lower 1st being good much better immediately?

a top 5 pick is generally a game breaker, so you've got to think carefully about trading out of it.

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give me a second, i'll pull up draft info... normally i'd like to wait till, you know, at least january :/.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;232538]We've got a 1st, 5th, 6th, and 7th. We traded a high 2nd rounder for Rocky McIntosh; a guy who has yet to crack the starting lineup. We traded a high 3rd rounder for TJ Duckett; a guy who has yet to be used at all. We traded a high 4th rounder for Lloyd; a guy who can't get the ball because Brunell cannot see anyone but Moss or Betts. Frustrating anyone?[/quote]


This was exactly what I was telling you guys after the this year and last years draft of giving away picks like candy to try to fix the problems right now Campbell cost you guys this year first (a third and a fourth) and he was a early second rounder in every draft board and you allready had a high second rounder, McIntosh cost you a second and a six and with the knee history nobody expected hi mto go high.

Anyway with the looks of how this season is going your are looking at a high draft spot again in wich you could had grabed 3 future startes for the next 10 years and now you only have 1 pick.

this thing of using draft pick like you're playing madden and you can make a C. Rogers play like a Deion Sanders or Brunnell like Peyton Manning it doesn't work in real life.

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yeah, it's definitely too early.

However, my opinion is still that we should trade down for more picks. You are right, TG, whether we get a DB or not is a matter of availability. I would just like to fix DB with a draft pick, and fix QB with JC (not Quinn).

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5560644]FOX Sports - NFL - Top 100 prospects for the 2007 NFL draft[/url]

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quinn looks like eli. doesn't show up till the 4th quarter :/ it's important to see JC now before the skins have to bet the house on him. of course, they could always trade their #1 for matt schaub :P

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[QUOTE=That Guy;232784]quinn looks like eli. doesn't show up till the 4th quarter :/ it's important to see JC now before the skins have to bet the house on him. of course, they could always trade their #1 for matt schaub :P[/QUOTE]

Well seeing as how our team ussually shows up until the 4th quarter, we might be in business lol.

Again, we need to see JC now. I'm not going to blame the season on Brunell, he hasent played well at all, but we have many problems deeper than him. But if Campbell dosent turn out to be the real deal , why do we have to sit through 7 crappy weeks next year, instead of using this season to find out since were out of it.

Unless a miracle happens ;)

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History says....Skins will trade the 1st rd pick for other picks and/or a player.

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hey maybe you can trade your first for either Culppeper or harrington next year it sure fills Snyder mold

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One player I hope we get as a free agent is Nate Clements, star cornerback with Buffalo. He knows GW and the defense and he is young. We could really use his help. Carlos Rogers might have to go to a nickel role, but he would be on the field a lot and would still be getting experience. Eventually he could become a Pro Bowl player with the talent he has. But our defense requires top flight cornerback play, and we have have those positions very solid.

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That's a good pick right there I just don't know if you can afford him with Springs, Archuleta and Taylors new contract he will be on his last years of contract next year. add to that rogers

and you're tallking about a 25 mill backfield add Clemens and you have 28% of your cap only on the secondary.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;232943]hey maybe you can trade your first for either Culppeper or harrington next year it sure fills Snyder mold[/quote]

Yeah, someone with Bledsoe as their QB has a lot of room to talk.

Brunell has more passing yards than Bledsoe and only 3 INTs to Drew's 7...with a few more tonight probably.

MB's QB rating = 90 (11th)
DB's = 70 (28th) :food-smil

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Buster, we don't have much room to talk. At least the Cowboys are WINNING. :vomit: :doh:

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[quote=Buster;232963]Yeah, someone with Bledsoe as their QB has a lot of room to talk.

Brunell has more passing yards than Bledsoe and only 3 INTs to Drew's 7...with a few more tonight probably.

MB's QB rating = 90 (11th)
DB's = 70 (28th) :food-smil[/quote]

The big difference is the Cowboys have a D.

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I'd love to see us grab a great offensive lineman or two in the lower rounds. Look what the Jets are doing behind Brick and Mangold. Those two are major parts of their offensive success.

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[quote=Mattyk72;232966]The big difference is the Cowboys have a D.[/quote]

Yea, and a young D at that, built w/ good draft picks. It hurts to say it.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;232967]I'd love to see us grab a great offensive lineman or two in the lower rounds. Look what the Jets are doing behind Brick and Mangold. Those two are major parts of their offensive success.[/quote]


man you have a good O-line better than us your mayor problem right now is QB and defense the hole unit they're playing awful like a gruyere cheese