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61cad 10-24-2006 11:57 AM

John Riggins asked Gibbs....
 
if Portis is getting beatup. He even hinted that Portis could be on a down slide in his NFL career.

Portis is only in his 5th season.

I think Riggins needs to slow down on his drinking.

EternalEnigma21 10-24-2006 11:59 AM

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portis is beat up, but I don't think he's gettin any worse. He looked better in Denver because of their scheme (ypc and tds) but you can barely tell his shoulder is an issue while he's running.

Southpaw 10-24-2006 12:02 PM

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[quote=61cad;233694]if Portis is getting beatup. He even hinted that Portis could be on a down slide in his NFL career.

Portis is only in his 5th season.

I think Riggins needs to slow down on his drinking.[/quote]

John Riggins is in love with TJ Duckett. When they first signed Duckett, Riggins was basically saying Duckett should be a starter in this league, and should be the starter here in the future. Apparently every running back has to be over 250 pounds, since he was.

cpayne5 10-24-2006 12:19 PM

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;233697]John Riggins is in love with TJ Duckett. When they first signed Duckett, Riggins was basically saying Duckett should be a starter in this league, and should be the starter here in the future. Apparently every running back has to be over 250 pounds, since he was.[/QUOTE]
His playing weight was under 250.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that he feels he should be the starter now and in the future. I listen to his radio show and was listening to it the day they traded for Duckett. I don't remember him ever saying anything to the effect of "Duckett should be the starter."

Now, he does state his displeasure for the trade on occasion.

EternalEnigma21 10-24-2006 12:20 PM

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Duckett should be at least the number 2 guy. I like betts, and he's a viable reciever out of the backfield, but Duckett is like Bettis. He's big and strong, and he has deceptively quick feet.

skins268 10-24-2006 12:29 PM

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Did you see the Indy game>>?Betts looked very good as a RB and WR catching balls,Duckett is nothing more than a Goal line back or 3rd down back-

illdefined 10-24-2006 12:31 PM

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agreed CTT, Betts should be no.3 or even straight up replaced by Cartwright and save us some roster space.

Betts is pretty meaningless to me, we need Thunder and Lightning and drive defenses nuts. not Thunder, Lightning, and Static Electricity.

illdefined 10-24-2006 12:34 PM

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[QUOTE=skins268;233710]Did you see the Indy game>>?Betts looked very good as a RB and WR catching balls,Duckett is nothing more than a Goal line back or 3rd down back-[/QUOTE]

yeah he looked like...... a very watered down Portis.

jsarno 10-24-2006 12:40 PM

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[QUOTE=skins268;233710]Did you see the Indy game>>?Betts looked very good as a RB and WR catching balls,Duckett is nothing more than a Goal line back or 3rd down back-[/QUOTE]

Remember Gerald Riggs? That's who Duckett should become.
I think we haven't seen more of Duckett because of learning the system. I hope that's it anyway...otherwise, what was the point of the trade?

For anyone thinking Portis is on the dowside of his career...WHAT????? Everyone gets dinged up, Portis just happens to be a focal point of our offense since the passing game sucks. Get the passing game working and all of a sudden Portis will take a back seat in this discussion.

Southpaw 10-24-2006 12:44 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;233706]I don't know where you're getting the idea that he feels he should be the starter now and in the future. I listen to his radio show and was listening to it the day they traded for Duckett. I don't remember him ever saying anything to the effect of "Duckett should be the starter."

Now, he does state his displeasure for the trade on occasion.[/quote]

He didn't specifically say that he should be the starter, but he said on several occasions that a guy like Duckett that has payed his dues as a backup and was a first round pick should be a starter in this league, and that Duckett should be looking for starting job "whether in Washington or somewhere else". He even made a comment similar to that to Duckett when he interviewed him, and Duckett sang the company line and said he was just happy to be here and hoped he could help contribute.

htownskinfan 10-24-2006 01:07 PM

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did you see brandon jacobs for the giants last night? nice change up from tiki,he carried people into the endzone last nite,he looks like a stud,duckett should be doing that for us

saden1 10-24-2006 01:16 PM

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Riggins is pushing the envelope...it works for Rush and other right wingers on radio, it might work for him too.

That Guy 10-24-2006 01:22 PM

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he's just looking for ratings by saying stupid things. portis's problem is that he's running with 9 in the box every down since no one is worried about being beat deep.

MTK 10-24-2006 01:22 PM

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Portis looks fine, though he did get banged up a bit against Indy.

If anything, he needs more work.

skinnyfan 10-24-2006 01:47 PM

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[quote=canthetuna;233707]Duckett should be at least the number 2 guy. I like betts, and he's a viable reciever out of the backfield, but Duckett is like Bettis. He's big and strong, and he has deceptively quick feet.[/quote]

Bettis is a stud compared to Duckett. Duckett is slow and big, he is no Bettis thats for sure. It is how it should be....portis, betts, duckett. We made a mistake with duckett, the only good thing is we know it..........I'd much rather give the ball to Sellars for that matter.

Crat92 10-24-2006 02:04 PM

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Duckett should be used in short yardage situations. He's 254 lbs, Mike Sellers is an M&M away from bieng 290 lbs. Put them both in the same backfield and there should be no way we could be stopped on Short yardage plays! All that needs to be done is run lead plays! HAIL from MCUSA!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-24-2006 03:17 PM

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Riggins always says things without thinking about what he is actually saying. That man has no credibility in my eyes.

61cad 10-24-2006 03:19 PM

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I love how Duckett is already a goat and he hasn't carrried the ball more than 10 times.

Let him play. At least use him on short yardage.

Oh, that's right, it's Joe Gibbs football and if he played Duckett during goal line Portis won't get his touches.

Reminds me of playing high school ball. The upper classmen always started regardless if they could make plays or not.

0421kidwell 10-24-2006 06:15 PM

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Portis Is The Man!! Riggo Needs To Booze It Up Some More

Pocket$ $traight 10-24-2006 08:29 PM

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I think that anyone who criticizes Riggins may need to think before they type. To me, he has never come across as a Woody Paige type (someone who takes positions because the wind changed).

Riggins has forgotten more about football than we collectively know.

Pocket$ $traight 10-24-2006 08:32 PM

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[quote=skins268;233710]Did you see the Indy game>>?Betts looked very good as a RB and WR catching balls,Duckett is nothing more than a Goal line back or 3rd down back-[/quote]

Aren't 3rd down backs typically pretty quick since they often run a pattern? When did Duckett become a 3rd down back?

Duckett could definitely be a starting runningback.

That Guy 10-25-2006 03:58 AM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;234043]Aren't 3rd down backs typically pretty quick since they often run a pattern? When did Duckett become a 3rd down back?

Duckett could definitely be a starting runningback.[/quote]

i think he meant short yardage.

Hog1 10-25-2006 08:09 AM

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Like him or not, Riggins does a rare thing today's media. He speaks his mind! He does not appear to puss out for fear of reprisal

That Guy 10-25-2006 09:03 AM

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[quote=Hog1;234188]Like him or not, Riggins does a rare thing today's media. He speaks his mind! He does not appear to puss out for fear of reprisal[/quote]

except against the people that are paying him. oops.

Hog1 10-25-2006 09:21 AM

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Well............there's that!

VTSkins897 10-25-2006 09:22 AM

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duckett can be our short-yardage/goal line back IF...................

we ever get into a situation where the defense keeps us in a close game. as of now, we're throwing on 3rd down.

as far as portis being on the down-side. you never know with RBs. i'm praying he pulls out as many seasons as some of the emmitt smiths and marshall faulks

GhettoDogAllStars 10-25-2006 09:59 AM

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Of course CP is the man. I don't think anyone in the entire league would deny that he's the best back we have.

As for Duckett, I don't think he should surpass Betts on the depth chart. Betts has performed acceptably, and he has done his job--what more can you ask for? He was here before Duckett, and that has to count for something. We can't just ignore the fact that he has helped us in the past, and demote him because he isn't rushing like CP.

On another note: I'd like to see more of Duckett, so we know what we have. His contract will expire after this year, and we'll need to make a decision about whether to re-sign him. Just like JC, we need to see him in more game-time situations before we can make a decision.

MTK 10-25-2006 10:04 AM

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[quote=Hog1;234188]Like him or not, Riggins does a rare thing today's media. He speaks his mind![/quote]

Granted it's a crazy mind

61cad 10-25-2006 11:34 AM

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[quote=VTSkins897;234226]duckett can be our short-yardage/goal line back IF...................

we ever get into a situation where the defense keeps us in a close game. as of now, we're throwing on 3rd down.



How about the offense play calling keeping the Skins out of close games and start show casing all this talent.

Wouldn't that be refreshing?


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