Feelings on Adam Archuleta can he cover his own shadow?
 

Its pitiful, this guy just can't cover, beginning the season i thought he'd add a more power hitting, better secondary obviously not. Just leave his ass on the bench. He sugar coated that when he got beat deep and almost lost us the game, however big TROY V the best pickup off the street saved it for us.

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arch sucks.. If he hasn't developed any coverage skills thus far in his career he should not be playing regularly... but Williams is pretty much putting him in to blitz or play run, from what I gathered in his post game presser.

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Yep, he sucks. But he can cover me any time he wants... haha

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I was just thinking about making a thread about this guy. I mean he just seems completely out of it. He can't be this bad can he?

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I think i might be able to beat him for a T.D he sucks ass

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Yep he's pretty awful

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So it's looking like not only was this guy not an upgrade, he can't even play. That sucks

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I agree. Adam Archuleta is absolutely terrible. He was about 5 yards behind the Dallas TE that made the catch to set up the final Vanderjack field goal attempt. Even though the kick was eventually blocked (ironically by Troy Vincent) the end result could have been ugly.

Unfortuantely, I don't feel they'll bench him because they don't want to admit he is a total bust. So we're going to suffer with more big burns. Here's to a 6-10 season. Thanks Arch.

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What kills me is how much we paid him and that he's not exactly a young buck. Moreover, everyone around the league knew that Arch wasn't a cover corner. This is the one FA acquisition that I would unquestionably veto.

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If Vincent can stay healthy then hopefully we'll have learned that AA does not belong in obvious passing situations. The guy can blitz so he can be still used for that.

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I would honestly give up a 3rd rounder to let us release Archuleta with no cap hit. Anyone know how much money we'd be out if we cut him? I believe we'd take about a $5+ million cap hit by releasing him (signing bonus acceleration - 2007 salary), but that's a rough guess.

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Let Archuleta bulk up by 10-15 pounds this offseason. Move him to weakside linebacker--he can back up McIntosh next year when Holdman is let go.

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No, no and no....we're not bulking up Arch to play him at linebacker. Too late for that shit. And we're not going to pay his ass $30 million to a be situational blitzer.

He needs to be traded or released in the most cap friendly way possible.

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Arch actually didn't play most of the second half. Vincent was in on probably 80% of the plays. After the game on the Comcast postgame show they asked GW why Arch was on the bench for most of the second hald and GW was very diplomatic, stating that it was based on what "packages" were in for the play etc., but you could tell that he was obviously pissed about the last pass play.

If I were a betting man, I think you'll see Vincent in place of Arch on all passing downs, maybe more. GW was VERY high on Vincent after the game saying that Vincent has that "veteran instinct" and how TV was picking out stuff from Dallas's playbook etc.

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Traded? Only one team in the league would trade for him--and he's already on the Skins. As for releasing him--not sure of the cap implications but I would think that would be difficult after one year.

He's better at the line of scrimmage anyway so might as well move him. I believe he was a linebacker in college also. And finally, Dale Lindsey could make him cry...

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Just Cut him after the season

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It's time for Shneed and Canuck to start explaining how much it will cost to rid ourselves of him.

Although he did make a nice tackle on teams.

What's frustrating is to remember Mark Murphy. he was maybe 6' 2" 200 lbs. He was always around the ball because he had the instincts to play the deep middle. They are either asking Archeletta to go against his instincts or else he doesn't have any. Brad Edwards was another one who made big plays with very little athletic ability, though his career was very short.

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I think that with the cap hit associated with cutting him, it makes more sense to keep him as an overpayed blitz specialist and special teams player.

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he's here for 3 years. the first three he's making vet min (but the prorated SB is added on for cap accounting purposes). releasing him would be about an 8mill hit, but after the third year (when his salary jumps from <800k to 4mill+) it'll make more sense.

unless we're clearing house or taking a year of total cap hell, he'll be one of the most expensive bench warmers in the history of the NFL.

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[QUOTE=tdSKINS1;239655]Its pitiful, this guy just can't cover.[/QUOTE]

I said when we signed him that he lost his last job at St. Louis to a rook, and Rams fans were glad he was out of the line-up.

Workout warriers do not always morph into playmakers. Bad, bad FA!

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i thought he would be utilized a little differently, with him being allowed to blitz very often, but that hasnt been the case

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I always thought that he was a decent safety, but I didn't follow the rams D much...

I can't believe the guy had all of the hype he did and he got the money he did being THAT BAD.

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He's Horrible..

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I think a lot of this anger at AA is misdirected. His weaknesses in coverage were well documented before he adorned a Skins uniform.

The fact that this signing hasn't worked out (atleast not yet) should be blamed on the front office and the coaching staff. Jerry Gray, Gregg Williams, Joe Gibbs and Vinny Cerrato bear the blame for signing this guy over Ryan Clark.

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oh, the FO has gotten a lot of hate over their performance, but it's pretty hard to figure out who exactly is responsible for signing which players.

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[quote=hurrykaine;239766]I think a lot of this anger at AA is misdirected. His weaknesses in coverage were well documented before he adorned a Skins uniform.

The fact that this signing hasn't worked out (atleast not yet) should be blamed on the front office and the coaching staff. Jerry Gray, Gregg Williams, Joe Gibbs and Vinny Cerrato bear the blame for signing this guy over Ryan Clark.[/quote]

While you are 100% right that it was well advertised that Arch was a "liability in coverage" when we signed him, I can't imagine that anyone knew he would be this bad. He's making Ryan Clark look like he was Ronnie Lott or something!

If the coaches had any idea he was this bad (couldn't even stay with Witten running straight up the field), then they deserve any ripping they get for this awful signing. GW sounded as if he had almost given up on Arch in the post-game interview. If Arch doesn't show dramatic improvement through the next 8 games, he's gone next year no matter what the cap cost.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;239772]oh, the FO has gotten a lot of hate over their performance, but it's pretty hard to figure out who exactly is responsible for signing which players.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. We have no clue who lobbied for who. Gibbs has the ultimate say on all personnel decisions, but he might defer to the coordinators if they lobby for a particular player to fit their particular scheme.

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From the sounds of it GW is the one that really wanted AA and had his eye on him for years.

AA would cost us about $9M in cap hits if we cut him next year, so it's doubtful he'll be gone. Our best bet is to hope a lot of his struggles this year are due to adjusting to a new system and he can rebound next year.

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i say, whats done is done. now that he is here, lets figure out a way to use him. or he is going to be a very expensive special teamer

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From what I understand GW has almost complete control on defensive personal and wanted Arch bad. It doesn't really matter who's mistake it was though. The important thing is to fix it. I can't believe there isn't some way to use this guy who appeared to be a good player in St.Louis.

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[quote=Jason72;239826]From what I understand GW has almost complete control on defensive personal and wanted Arch bad. It doesn't really matter who's mistake it was though. The important thing is to fix it. I can't believe there isn't some way to use this guy who appeared to be a good player in St.Louis.[/quote]

rams fans certainly weren't calling him a good player, and the rams weren't even trying to resign him.

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[quote=That Guy;239828]rams fans certainly weren't calling him a good player, and the rams weren't even trying to resign him.[/quote]

The Bears sure wanted him badly. That says something when his recent former coach on a great defensive team wanted him. He has to have something to offer. We need to get it out of him.

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true, but he knows the bears' scheme better than GW's, since it's the only one he's ever used in the NFL. they weren't offering nearly what we were though, so maybe he would have only been a part timer there, or maybe he would have just been their mistake instead of ours...

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we do crack on AA alot, but none of our D has been playing well, and that may have something to do with his shortcomings. I've seen #22 get burned, #21 get burned, #25 looks like he just got back from the surface of the sun he gets torched so much, so it may just be that our D sucks right now, and maybe he'll improve.


I would like to see him blowing up people more, but ST hasn't made jacked up himself lately... I wonder why that is? He's usually a regular..

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AA leads the team in solo tackles with 42
the next in line is ST with 34

WHY DO THE SAFETIES HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES
IF AA DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES ON THE RUN GAME MAYBEE HE COULD COVER SOMEONE!

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[quote=wbecker999;239894]AA leads the team in solo tackles with 42
the next in line is ST with 34

WHY DO THE SAFETIES HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES
IF AA DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES ON THE RUN GAME MAYBEE HE COULD COVER SOMEONE![/quote]

That's the crazy world of Greg Williams. Corners blitzing, Defensive ends playing zone coverage, Lemar Marshall singled up with the other teams best WR. Every player has to play every position (almost). A.A. is probably used to hanging back on passing downs but now they have him running all over the field. Clark and Pray-Low had no trouble picking it up, though.

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[quote=wbecker999;239894]AA leads the team in solo tackles with 42
the next in line is ST with 34

WHY DO THE SAFETIES HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES
IF AA DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE TACKLES ON THE RUN GAME MAYBEE HE COULD COVER SOMEONE![/quote]
WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

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No he can't. That's why Troy Vincent started and played majority of the game. Bottom line!

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The guy just doesn't fit the williams scheme, too much man coverage for arch, doesn't seem like it's gonna work out. If he can't keep up with a tight end, how is he gonna keep up with reggie brown?????

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GW knows AA can't cover and that's evident by him not playing much in the 2nd half. We all know that if someone can't play no matter what he is getting paid that someone will not see the field much (i.e LA). So i trust GW on this one.

And its really not AA's fault. You're gonna turn down 30mill, or whatever it was? Let the front office take the blame for this.