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Ok did anyone watch the NFL network tonight about the Leftwich situation? (I should be doing my hw so I can remain elgible lol) But If #9 plays well this weekend we could be talking about Leftwich in Washington in the offseason! THATS WHAT THEY SAID I had to use Tivo to make sure I heard that right!!!! WOAH...But if so Poor Jason Campbell...On a side note...Im disgusted with the play of that punk (and sapp called him one too!) tonight a knee shot to the balls is an illegal move even in Full contact Karate...So what do u think the NFL Feels about it!!?!?!?

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Pure speculation at this point. The media loves to put any big name in D.C.

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I think that would be the craziest thing ever for Leftwhich to replace Brunell again. It wont happen though. I will officially call Gibbs a retard if something like that happens. The only way it happens is if the start playing Campbell and he shows a complete inability to function. Then maybe they find a vet to come in. I wonder if this is Brunell's last year?

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i was aware that the NFL feels.

and i wouldn't give too much thought to stupid rumors. leftwich probably isn't the answer. he's hometown, but he's inconsistent.

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not gonna happen b/c of campbell

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;240740]not gonna happen b/c of campbell[/QUOTE]

Why not? There is a reason JC isnt playing and it because he's not ready. Other more inexperienced QBs are playing and playing well but JC stays on the bench because he's still not ready. I think JC has maybe 1 more year as a skin and then they are going to have to make a decision about whether or nat thay made a big mistake giving up so much for him. In the meantime Gibbs loves vets and BL is a solid vet. I can see the skins getting BL.

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Campbell would have to be a complete disaster in order for them to bring in another starter. I don't see that happening.

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This is crazy. But at this point I really woulden't be shocked. I mean, think about it. We move up to draft a guy in the first round two years ago, coach him up, and then never EVER let him play. I'mm pretty sure that Mark is done after this year and with that said, why don't we keep Redskins tradition and sign Kerry Collins and cut campbell.

I love Brunell but sometimes I wish he would get a minor injury (very minor) I don't wish pain a suffering on anyone. But then maybe just MAYBE then Campbell would get some playing time and at least have a CHANCE to do well.

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I think at this point the coaches see JC as closer to disaster than starter.

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[quote=irish;240757]I think at this point the coaches see JC as closer to disaster than starter.[/quote]

Based on what?

I know that some people think that because he's sat for a year and a half that must mean he's garbage, but Gibbs is known for bringing his QBs along pretty slowly, so it's really not that much of a surprise.

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[quote=FRPLG;240708]I think that would be the craziest thing ever for Leftwhich to replace Brunell again. It wont happen though. I will officially call Gibbs a retard if something like that happens. The only way it happens is if the start playing Campbell and he shows a complete inability to function. Then maybe they find a vet to come in. I wonder if this is Brunell's last year?[/quote]


i think its been written in stone that this is Brunell's last year. Can you reasonably expect Campbell to remain content for another year on the pine? we bench him another year, and he will depart as soon as his contract allows...

as for leftwich, i'm a fan of his arm, but do we really need a QB that moves slower than Brunell?

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[quote=Mattyk72;240758]Based on what?

I know that some people think that because he's sat for a year and a half that must mean he's garbage, but Gibbs is known for bringing his QBs along pretty slowly, so it's really not that much of a surprise.[/quote]

i agree with matty here, I think JC's lack of time is a function of Gibbs' preference for expirience as opposed to his lack of skill.

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Fox Pregame said that Gibbs said Campbell would be ready to start in [b]2-3 years[/b]
Which to me either proves he royally fucked up getting Campbell, or he thinks Brunell will be around that long. Either way, if this proves true I won't be happy.

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[QUOTE=irish;240757]I think at this point the coaches see JC as closer to disaster than starter.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't be further from the truth...Gibbs would sit Campbel for 5 years if him and Brunel were any younger. He likes veterans...always has. This has nothing to do with Campbel's potential shortcummings.

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[quote=Daseal;240770]Fox Pregame said that Gibbs said Campbell would be ready to start in [B]2-3 years[/B]
Which to me either proves he royally fucked up getting Campbell, or he thinks Brunell will be around that long. Either way, if this proves true I won't be happy.[/quote]

2-3 years from now or 2-3 years from the start of his career?

2-3 years from now makes no sense at all. It's got to be 2-3 years from the start of his career, which seemed to be the plan all along.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;240758]Based on what?

I know that some people think that because he's sat for a year and a half that must mean he's garbage, but Gibbs is known for bringing his QBs along pretty slowly, so it's really not that much of a surprise.[/QUOTE]

If JC was ready and looked good in practice he'd be playing. Gibbs says they are playing the QB that gives them the best chance to win and he does not think JC is that man. If Gibbs thought for a minute JC gave the team a better chance to win he'd play him but he doesnt so JC sits.

I dont know if JC is good or bad (I'm not watching practice) but Gibbs et al do watch and so far he has shown them he's not ready yet. Like I said, lots of less experienced QBs have shown enough to become starters ahead of shakey vets, JC aint one of them.

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[quote=irish;240776]If JC was ready and looked good in practice he'd be playing. Gibbs says they are playing the QB that gives them the best chance to win and he does not think JC is that man. If Gibbs thought for a minute JC gave the team a better chance to win he'd play him but he doesnt so JC sits.

I dont know if JC is good or bad (I'm not watching practice) but Gibbs et al do watch and so far he has shown them he's not ready yet. Like I said, lots of less experienced QBs have shown enough to become starters ahead of shakey vets, JC aint one of them.[/quote]

Gibbs obviously thought enough of Campbell to give up the picks to trade up for him. Coming out of college he was considered to be a bit of a project that could benefit by sitting a while, couple that with Gibbs' history of sticking with vets to the bitter end and bringing young QBs along slowly and it all makes logical sense if you ask me.

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[quote=Mattyk72;240781]Gibbs obviously thought enough of Campbell to give up the picks to trade up for him. Coming out of college he was considered to be a bit of a project that could benefit by sitting a while, couple that with Gibbs' history of sticking with vets to the bitter end and bringing young QBs along slowly and it all makes logical sense if you ask me.[/quote]

Gibbs is also the guy that said we scouted Desmond Howard and saw no flaws. College and pro are entirely different (as you well know) and because a player is highly regarded coming out of college is no guarantee he will work out in the pros.

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campbell wasn't that highly regarded ;)

he javelined short/mid passes the way ramsey threw EVERYTHING... however, the touch on his deep balls was crazy good in college, and he's a little bit of a runner too.

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[QUOTE=irish;240749]Why not? There is a reason JC isnt playing and it because he's not ready. Other more inexperienced QBs are playing and playing well but JC stays on the bench because he's still not ready. I think JC has maybe 1 more year as a skin and then they are going to have to make a decision about whether or nat thay made a big mistake giving up so much for him. In the meantime Gibbs loves vets and BL is a solid vet. I can see the skins getting BL.[/QUOTE]



Please share with us where you get your information about Jason Campbell not being ready to play. I'm only asking because I haven't see or heard it anywhere other than from people who don't know what they're talking about.

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gibbs has said time and time again that jason could start if needed and i'll take his word over IRISH any day. also jc is in his 6th offense in 6 years and gibbs wants to make sure that jc understands every nook and cranny of it before he throws him to the fire. right now i do believe that brunell gives us the best chance to win because he has somewhat of a 'hot hand'.
gibbs has named brunell the starter on the bases of he knows how he plays and reacts to situations. plus what matty said about gibbs staying with a qb to the end is soo true and this is no different.

anyway the point is that byron will not come here b/c of campbell. campbell has a leg up on any qb that washington would bring in just for the fact that he knows the offense. the only qb i could see washington bringing in would be trent green. i say that b/c his team is doing good without him and he and saunders know each other. maybe saunders would want him back?

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;240890]Please share with us where you get your information about Jason Campbell not being ready to play. I'm only asking because I haven't see or heard it anywhere other than from people who don't know what they're talking about.[/QUOTE]

I got my info from gibbs. I heard him say that MB gives the team the best chance to win. That means JC is not ready to play. The coaches of any team will never tell the whole truth because they dont want to tip their hand.

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I don't want Leftwich. Not just because of Campbell either. Byron's a great athlete but he's fragile! He's ALWAYS getting hurt.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;240906]gibbs has said time and time again that jason could start if needed and i'll take his word over IRISH any day. also jc is in his 6th offense in 6 years and gibbs wants to make sure that jc understands every nook and cranny of it before he throws him to the fire. right now i do believe that brunell gives us the best chance to win because he has somewhat of a 'hot hand'.
gibbs has named brunell the starter on the bases of he knows how he plays and reacts to situations. plus what matty said about gibbs staying with a qb to the end is soo true and this is no different.

anyway the point is that byron will not come here b/c of campbell. campbell has a leg up on any qb that washington would bring in just for the fact that he knows the offense. the only qb i could see washington bringing in would be trent green. i say that b/c his team is doing good without him and he and saunders know each other. maybe saunders would want him back?[/QUOTE]

Gibbs has said he could start if given the week to be coached up. If something happens during the game then Collins will come in. Again it doesnt sound like somebody who's ready to play.

I find it really funny that MB and "hot hand" can even be mentioned in the same sentence.

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[QUOTE=Buster;240925]I don't want Leftwich. Not just because of Campbell either. Byron's a great athlete but he's fragile! He's ALWAYS getting hurt.[/QUOTE]

This is the one post on this thread I agree completely with.

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[quote=irish;240934]This is the one post on this thread I agree completely with.[/quote]

Let's see...

We're finally ready to begin the Campbell era after YEARS of preparation and training for the day...and we bench Campbell for a veteran QB who doesn't know the system and can't complete a full season.

Campbell's confidence AND trusting of the coaching staff would be crushed, although he DOES seem like the kind of guy who would keep it to himself for the team's sake. Leftwich starts the season and gets hurt. Campbell replaces him...NOT as the QB of the future, but as the guy they don't really want to play (in his mind).

GREAT PLAN. :pffff:

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BRUNELL HAS A HOT HAND

he is having his best season as a pro in all 4 major categories. dont believe me? look it up

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[quote=dall-assblows;240952]BRUNELL HAS A HOT HAND

he is having his best season as a pro in all 4 major categories. dont believe me? look it up[/quote]

explained it earlier. he fades down the stretch. last year in the first 8 starts he had two 320+ passing games and 5 220+ passing games... the next 8 he never threw over 200 and was under 160 in 6 games.

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oh yea? he is my mvp candidate.

i keeed again

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sorry, guess i missed the sarcasm amongst my hate-mongering. :(

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F it let ARE start a QB next year. Campbell is pretty fast maybe he can be a receiver.

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there is no way a first rounder would wait 2-3 from now to get an opportunity to play. I doubt young JC will be will ing to not start next year...if he comes into camp next year without it being his job to lose, i think he demands to be traded.
i would.

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if campbell doesnt start next year, chances are he cant play in this league. and no way to leftwich. always hurt

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[quote=Daseal;240770]Fox Pregame said that Gibbs said Campbell would be ready to start in [B]2-3 years[/B]
Which to me either proves he royally fucked up getting Campbell, or he thinks Brunell will be around that long. Either way, if this proves true I won't be happy.[/quote]
It proves only that fox pre-game is innacurate. I want to see in paper where Gibbs said that. I don't buy it.

I'm guessing next season JC will be taking over the reigns. If he's not at that point, then we can start worrying about Campbell or bust.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;240952]BRUNELL HAS A HOT HAND

he is having his best season as a pro in all 4 major categories. dont believe me? look it up[/QUOTE]

I know MB is having his best season (stats-wise) as a pro. That said the only stat that counts is the record and this team is down low in that stat. Most of MBs stats are padded dink passes (especially from the Hou game).

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[QUOTE=irish;240776]If JC was ready and looked good in practice he'd be playing. Gibbs says they are playing the QB that gives them the best chance to win and he does not think JC is that man. If Gibbs thought for a minute JC gave the team a better chance to win he'd play him but he doesnt so JC sits.

I dont know if JC is good or bad (I'm not watching practice) but Gibbs et al do watch and so far he has shown them he's not ready yet. Like I said, lots of less experienced QBs have shown enough to become starters ahead of shakey vets, JC aint one of them.[/QUOTE]



Joe Gibbs has never said Jason Campbell is not ready to play, as a matter of fact it's quite the contrary. The last time the question was put to Gibbs he said they think the world of Jason Campbell, and also said he thinks he can win games for us now. Where this idea that Campbell is not ready came from I have no idea, but it's pure conjecture and time to be laid to rest. No one in the Redskins organization has made that statement. The only reason he's not playing is because Gibbs is enamoured with Brunell and will not make a change until he absolutely has too, and knowing Gibbs, we understand that whether we like it/accept it or not.

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I like it. Another high-priced signing of an injury prone, inconsistent QB. He'd fit right in.

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[quote=Buster;240925]I don't want Leftwich. Not just because of Campbell either. Byron's a great athlete but he's fragile! He's ALWAYS getting hurt.[/quote]
I wouldn't characterize Leftwich as a great athlete, he's a tall, accurate passer in the mold of a young Drew Bledsoe. He has far less mobility than even Brunell at this stage, so you had better resurrect the old Hogs if you're planning on putting a statue behind center. Campbell brings far more to the table in terms of raw athleticism. I say give the kid a chance before bringing in yet another vet. Gibbs's handling of the QB situation since his return leaves ALOT to be desired.

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Go ahead and sign Leftwich. All the Skins need is another over-rated, over-priced free agent that will finally play his way to the bench. Has anyone noticed how the Adam Achuletta experiment has failed. Troy Vincent has only been with the team a few weeks and he has already taken over Arch's starting job and relegated Arch to team specialist (suicide squad and situational quasi-linebacker-safety). Oh, and by the way, throw in a few draft picks, the Skins don't need those either.

HAS ANYONE SEEN T.J. DUCKETT LATELY?

Where was he when the Skins floundered 8 goal line attempts?

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2-3 years is just stupid. Let's face it. Gibbs still has not adjusted to today's NFL. In today's NFL YOU DO NOT GIVE UP 2 #1 PICKS ON A QB AND SIT HIM FOR TWO YEARS. That is why the team sucks. Two number one's invested on someone who is on the bench. Along with two #2's on Rocky M. But who's counting?