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RedskinRat 11-07-2006 11:25 AM

WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[url=http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20061107-124239-4150r.htm]Victory doesn't change anything - Sports - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url]

[I]After the Washington Redskins evened their record at 2-2 with a dramatic overtime victory against the Jacksonville Jaguars last month, feelings of exhilaration, relief and optimism filled Redskin Park the next day.
The Redskins promptly wasted that momentum by losing their next three games.
On Sunday, the Redskins moved to 3-5 with a thrilling win over the Dallas Cowboys. But the difference between the post-Jaguars Monday and the post-Cowboys Monday were striking.
There was no exhilaration yesterday because the Redskins are still below .500.
There was little relief because the defense allowed 378 yards and 10 third-down conversions.
And there was minimal optimism because the offense halfway through the season remains a work in progress.
"In any sport, if you can get momentum, it can work well for you and definitely give you confidence to keep on rolling," center Casey Rabach said. "But our backs are still against the wall because we didn't expect to be at this point." [/I]

Admin/Mods, please move to News Wire, thanks.

hesscl34 11-07-2006 11:46 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Good grief.... it's Tuesday and we are already back to DOOM and GLOOM......

MTK 11-07-2006 11:49 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=hesscl34;240847]Good grief.... it's Tuesday and we are already back to DOOM and GLOOM......[/quote]

Well, at least we had Monday.

I'm still savoring the win myself, but when you look at the defensive numbers, it's very sobering.

I just keep thinking if TO had held on to that bomb our season would be over and it would be absolute chaos in Redskins nation right now.

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 11:51 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
R E A L I T Y, Hess.

We can do this but I don't think anyone needs to think we have it all sewn up.

hesscl34 11-07-2006 11:55 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=RedskinRat;240853]R E A L I T Y, Hess.

We can do this but I don't think anyone needs to think we have it all sewn up.[/quote]'

I AM ALLOWED TO enjoy a WIN. R E A L I T Y is that we WON. You do not hear me chanting SUPER BOWL when we are 3-5, do you? So get off my freakin back. Just because I believe anything is possible, and I have HOPE, doesn't make me WRONG. It makes me a FAN!

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:00 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Then why not focus on the other news article I posted?

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/15539-times-dispatch-paul-woody-win-gives.html"]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/15539-times-dispatch-paul-woody-win-gives.html[/URL]

Stop seeking out the negative just so you can have an indignation attack.

redsk1 11-07-2006 12:02 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
I am definately enjoying this win. I am also a realist and know we stole one on Sunday. So what, Dallas has "stole" games from us all the time. The most recent example is Patrick Crayton a couple years ago in Dallas. As a realist, the skins have to show a whole lot more to me for me to think they are going on a run. It is what it is. The season has been a disappointment, but there's a long way to go.

hesscl34 11-07-2006 12:03 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=RedskinRat;240857]Then why not focus on the other news article I posted?

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/15539-times-dispatch-paul-woody-win-gives.html[/URL]

Stop seeking out the negative just so you can have an indignation attack.[/quote]

Sheesh, what a control freak!!

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:05 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=hesscl34;240862]Sheesh, what a control freak!![/quote]

I have the 'control' you apparently lack.

You're very emotional, have you thought about seeking help?

Longtimefan 11-07-2006 12:08 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;240852]Well, at least we had Monday.

I'm still savoring the win myself, but when you look at the defensive numbers, it's very sobering.

I just keep thinking if TO had held on to that bomb our season would be over and it would be absolute chaos in Redskins nation right now.[/QUOTE]



I agree..... and am savoring the win just like you because a win is a win, and at this point I'll take them any way I can get them, but like you I want to keep this win in perspective. It wasn't all about what we did, but more about what the Cowboys failed to do.

Six seconds before the game ended my heart was fluttering, and thought there was no way we're going to win this game. Despite that amazing six second turn around, I doubt there are many here who felt any different. The odds of winning in that situation are slim at best.

hesscl34 11-07-2006 12:15 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=RedskinRat;240864]I have the 'control' you apparently lack.

You're very emotional, have you thought about seeking help?[/quote]

I suggest you STOP attacking me personally just becuase I say what I feel. That would make 3 personal attacks in two days. When I defend myself, you continue and find a new way to insult me.

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:20 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
You can suggest what you like, I'm entitled to my opinion that you are overly emotional.

Now if I'd said that you were a [I]'Typical attention-seeking drama-Queen psycho-bitch who gets as excited as a pre-walk puppy' [/I]then that could be construed as insulting, however I didn't.

Your language yesterday regarding Brunell bashers was cause for complaint, yet I didn't.

Chicks....Yikes!

MTK 11-07-2006 12:22 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
alright kiddies settle down and play nice or I'm going to call both of your parents

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:23 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Aw.......but SHE started it!








:joke:

Hog1 11-07-2006 12:24 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=redsk1;240859]I am definately enjoying this win. I am also a realist and know we stole one on Sunday. So what, Dallas has "stole" games from us all the time. The most recent example is Patrick Crayton a couple years ago in Dallas. As a realist, the skins have to show a whole lot more to me for me to think they are going on a run. It is what it is. The season has been a disappointment, but there's a long way to go.[/quote]

I'm still trying to get over Clint Longley!

724Skinsfan 11-07-2006 12:26 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Back away slowly from the keyboard. Go to nearest refrigerated machine where ice cream products are kept. Eat whatever flavor brings out the good feelings and inhibits the bad ones. Return back to the Warpath when satiated. Repeat as often as necessary.

hesscl34 11-07-2006 12:29 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=RedskinRat;240877]You can suggest what you like, I'm entitled to my opinion that you are overly emotional.

Now if I'd said that you were a [I]'Typical attention-seeking drama-Queen psycho-bitch who gets as excited as a pre-walk puppy' [/I]then that could be construed as insulting, however I didn't.

Your language yesterday regarding Brunell bashers was cause for complaint, yet I didn't.

Chicks....Yikes![/quote]

That would be why you are alone.

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:32 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=hesscl34;240888]That would be why you are alone.[/quote]

Oooooh! Personal attack! Help! Help! I'm being oppressed.

'Alone'......yeah, sure. [B]Alone like a Bandicoot, baby![/B]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]Did I say that right? That's what the cool kids say, isn't it?[/SIZE][/FONT]

Hog1 11-07-2006 12:34 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
A win, ANY win changes the complexion of the locker room (of a team in trouble) and team to more positive one. This win was TAKEN from the boys NOT given. Our guy busted that kick. Our freak returned it to field goal range. Our............kicker dealt the death blow. Our team kept the score close enough for the last minute heroics to actually MEAN something, instead of a "garbage score". Same ol', same ol' ?????????? Hardly. Super Bowl bound.......maybe not

tjmorgan 11-07-2006 12:52 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
A win over the Cowgirls is always worth celebrating for the week !!!

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 12:56 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Yes, for sure.

Any win over the Cow-Whores under any circumstance is a thing of joy.

However I really, really want another SB win. That's kind of my focus.

JWsleep 11-07-2006 01:01 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Easy folks...

I still can't see why thinking rationally about the team means you can't ALSO savor the incredible victory.

We have to play way better if we have ANY chance this year. That seems obvious enough. But for me, in years when we don't win the superbowl, the next best thing is humiliating and abusing the Dallas Cowboys. Last Sunday assured us of a successful season, on one level at least!

Twilbert07 11-07-2006 03:34 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
The best part about the big, stirring victory is that Danny Boy can create a new shirt for "The Play" and begin selling it on redskins.com ASAP. I'd buy one.

freddyg12 11-07-2006 03:36 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=JWsleep;240913]Easy folks...

I still can't see why thinking rationally about the team means you can't ALSO savor the incredible victory.

We have to play way better if we have ANY chance this year. That seems obvious enough. But for me, in years when we don't win the superbowl, the next best thing is humiliating and abusing the Dallas Cowboys. Last Sunday assured us of a successful season, on one level at least![/quote]

Yes! hopefully we demoralized them.
Not only is the to deal gettin worse, but vanderjack-off also kinda called out his blockers, saying he hit the ball well & "it takes 11 guys."
that could spur some more turmoil in big d. Now on to philly

Hog1 11-07-2006 03:51 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
If you saw Parcells in the post game, you KNOW how it demoralized him. he looked like he was on the bad side of Colon cleansing.

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 03:54 PM

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[quote=Hog1;241183]If you saw Parcells in the post game, you KNOW how it demoralized him. he looked like he was on the bad side of Colon cleansing.[/quote]

But really, is there a good side?

Hog1 11-07-2006 03:56 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
In front

JoeRedskin 11-07-2006 04:05 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
Soooo, you like to be in front. No worries - I'm sure RR's hamster has got your behind.

Jethuth Chritht

TheMalcolmConnection 11-07-2006 04:07 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
HA. Very nice Mr. Slave.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-07-2006 04:07 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
RR is your hamster named Lemmiwinks?

ArtMonkDrillz 11-07-2006 04:09 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;241200]RR is your hamster named Lemmiwinks?[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha.
I bought the best of South Park DVD yesterday and that episode is on it. I think I need to watch it when I get home from work. Then, maybe I'll watch Scott Tenorman Must Die for the second time.

mheisig 11-07-2006 04:45 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;240856]'

I AM ALLOWED TO enjoy a WIN. R E A L I T Y is that we WON. You do not hear me chanting SUPER BOWL when we are 3-5, do you? So get off my freakin back. Just because I believe anything is possible, and I have HOPE, doesn't make me WRONG. It makes me a FAN![/QUOTE]

Does somebody need a hug? Huh? C'mon, you know you want to...

EternalEnigma21 11-07-2006 06:14 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
hahahaha I made you eat your parents, I made you eat your parents....


Oh the taste of unfathomable sorrow... so sweet... so sweet....


hahaha thats my fav. episode...

RedskinRat 11-07-2006 06:37 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;241200]RR is your hamster named Lemmiwinks?[/quote]

:censored:

skinsguy 11-07-2006 08:08 PM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[QUOTE=JWsleep;240913]Easy folks...

I still can't see why thinking rationally about the team means you can't ALSO savor the incredible victory.
[/QUOTE]

Exactly! Any given Sunday any team can beat any other team. Hhhmmm perfect example... Miami beating Chicago!

DirtBagZ 11-08-2006 08:19 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
On this forum it was mentioned how the Skins come from behind win on Monday night football last year gave the Cowboys a hangover. Hopefully this win will do the same. However for the Redskins the two losses against Minnesota and Tennesse at home are going to hurt. For the team to have any serious playoff hopes that have to run the table, which is highly unlikely. At this stage I like the fact that the players are approaching each game as a single game season, that is probably the right approach.

With respect to pessimism regarding the team that is only natural, the expectation ever since Gibbs has come back is Super Bowl or bust. After last year's finish and the big free agent signings everyone in Washington area thought this team was headed to the Super Bowl. Now at the mid-point of the season the team is 3-5, and does not have any particular strength, actually I take that back the specail teams have been good, but neither offense nor the defence has played well or consistently.

Tony McGee made a comment about commitment to the running game and how that opened up the passing game, I hope we see more of the same up in Philly. I also think it is time to let Duckett get some touches, maybe in the first half open up with Duckett at TB and Seller at FB and just pound the opposing defence. Once opposing defence has their hands on their hips unload with a heavy dose of CP and watch the big gains build up.

Schneed10 11-08-2006 08:46 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
[quote=DirtBagZ;241432]On this forum it was mentioned how the Skins come from behind win on Monday night football last year gave the Cowboys a hangover. Hopefully this win will do the same. However for the Redskins the two losses against Minnesota and Tennesse at home are going to hurt. For the team to have any serious playoff hopes that have to run the table, which is highly unlikely. At this stage I like the fact that the players are approaching each game as a single game season, that is probably the right approach.

With respect to pessimism regarding the team that is only natural, the expectation ever since Gibbs has come back is Super Bowl or bust. After last year's finish and the big free agent signings everyone in Washington area thought this team was headed to the Super Bowl. Now at the mid-point of the season the team is 3-5, and does not have any particular strength, actually I take that back the specail teams have been good, but neither offense nor the defence has played well or consistently.

Tony McGee made a comment about commitment to the running game and how that opened up the passing game, I hope we see more of the same up in Philly. I also think it is time to let Duckett get some touches, maybe in the first half open up with Duckett at TB and Seller at FB and just pound the opposing defence. Once opposing defence has their hands on their hips unload with a heavy dose of CP and watch the big gains build up.[/quote]

10-6 in all likelihood gets you to the playoffs, regardless of tiebreakers. In NFL history it's very rare when a 10-6 team doesn't make the playoffs. Most recently happened to the Chiefs, I believe.

We can afford one loss along the way. Running the table would guarantee it, but going 10-6 would mean we're 95% - 99% assured of making it.

Hog1 11-08-2006 08:52 AM

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I don't see a problem with that. Nothin' to it!

TheMalcolmConnection 11-08-2006 08:58 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
If I see a dominating performance in Filthy (something to the tune of 28-17, 28-10 Redskins) then all hope will have returned just as quickly as it left after the first Vikings game.

If the Skins do this, they'll know they can't get trapped down in Tampa and come home for a stand for the playoffs.

Defensewins 11-08-2006 09:00 AM

Re: WT - Victory doesn't change anything
 
I am all for clebrating the Dallas win, but let's be realistic.
We are not playing very well, our defense is weak (3rd worst in NFL) , our offense is inconsistant (Brunell),and people are talking playoffs?
Are we talking about the Washington Redskins or another team?

I watched the Dallas game for a second time on DVR last night thinking I would enjoy it. It was awful.
I hate to say it and it will piss some people off, but we did not deserve to win that game. Luckily we were playing a team that is as bad as we are right now. The Terrel Owens drop of a sure TD pass would have sealed the game for Dallas. It was dumb luck that we won that game. Romo's pass was perfect and the ball was in TO's hand, it was an easy catch. Plus add the two would be dropped inteceptions that bounced off the chest and head of the Dallas DB's. It was an ugly win.


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