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Is it any wonder that Brunell has yet to be injured since he arrived? I never even see the guy get hit hard, if our line is as bad as some say how come this hasen't happened? I really and truly never want to see someone injured, but I find it kind of funny that a QB as old as he is with a line that apparently can't pass protect, seem's to stay healthy enough to never miss a game? IIIIIIIIIRONIC!

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He's not a quitter!

(I feel another long drawn out Brunell conversation coming on - ugh!!)

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Cowboys even stated that the Skins "O" line played well.

Really!

This year Brunell is one of the least sacked if not the the leasted sacked QB.

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Even more ironic when you consider Brunell had rarely been trough a season without missing a game in his entire career!

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[quote=61cad;242103]Cowboys even stated that the Skins "O" line played well.

Really!

This year Brunell is one of the least sacked if not the the leasted sacked QB.[/quote]

They had to hold the shi+ out of us to even make a play!! GRRR! Dirty Dallas!

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What are you talking about, he's had plenty of injuries!

None major, but remember 2004? He wasn't healthy all year.

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[quote=61cad;242103]Cowboys even stated that the Skins "O" line played well.

Really!

This year Brunell is one of the least sacked if not the the leasted sacked QB.[/quote]

That's the problem with stats. It's all how you interpret them. Although our line has had games with decent protection, he has been chased all over the field righteously most of the season. He also unloads the ball rather than take the sack

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[quote=offiss;242097]Is it any wonder that Brunell has yet to be injured since he arrived? I never even see the guy get hit hard, if our line is as bad as some say how come this hasen't happened? I really and truly never want to see someone injured, but I find it kind of funny that a QB as old as he is with a line that apparently can't pass protect, seem's to stay healthy enough to never miss a game? IIIIIIIIIRONIC![/quote]

How's Ramsey's health? Any bench related injuries this season? Any splinterectomies performed?

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Brunell also protects himself well. It is not a disparaging comment, but rarely does he sit in the pocket and take a big hit. If he feels pressure coming, he will roll out fairly quickly and get rid of the ball or throw it to whatever side of the hash he has rolled to.

The QBs who sit in the pocket and step up to deliver the ball, or the scramblers, are the ones who will have the serious injuries - Brunell is neither really.

Unfortunately, the QBs who wait in the pocket are also the ones who tend to deliver a lot of intermediate-to-deep passes, which Brunell also doesn't really do.

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[quote=offiss;242097]Is it any wonder that Brunell has yet to be injured since he arrived? I never even see the guy get hit hard, if our line is as bad as some say how come this hasen't happened? I really and truly never want to see someone injured, but I find it kind of funny that a QB as old as he is with a line that apparently can't pass protect, seem's to stay healthy enough to never miss a game? IIIIIIIIIRONIC![/quote]I don't think anyone has ever questioned his toughness. (Well, maybe RR, but he also wanted to see him put up 36 2nd half points) He does seem get hit around a lot in some games, and little in others, @ Dallas, @ Indy, @ NY hes been hit up pretty bad. Our line is by no means bad, just inconsistent at times.

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Given the way the zebras protect the QB combined with Brunell's willingness to throw the ball away I'd be surprised to see him get touched let alone hit.

Not saying he's not tough but he's very protective of himself.

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[quote=Hog1;242118]That's the problem with stats. It's all how you interpret them. Although our line has had games with decent protection, he has been chased all over the field righteously most of the season. He also unloads the ball rather than take the sack[/quote]Sacks are a tough stat, because you are right, although sacks kill drives it doesn't account for QB pressures, something that a lot of 'experts' feel is more important than a sack. So just reciting a sack total doesn't tell you much about a pass rush.

I'll mention one thing though. As far as defensive stats go, sacks are the most consistent from year to year which means that they are the least luck-based stat on defense. The better defenses tend to put up higher sack #'s year in and year out as other stats like INTs and FRs fluctuate from season to season.

Unless you are the Redskins, and then you never get turnovers no matter how well your defense is playing.

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[quote=RedskinRat;242127]Not saying he's not tough but he's very protective of himself.[/quote]Well, you are absolutely correct. He does value his health out there. Most veterans do. The important thing is that WHEN he does get hit, he pops right back up.

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[quote=GTripp0012;242133]Well, you are absolutely correct. He does value his health out there. Most veterans do. The important thing is that WHEN he does get hit, he pops right back up.[/quote]

Brett Favre. I like the fact that he stands in there until the D facemask is buried into his chest.

I'm sure other less lazy people could list a bunch of Vets that 'stand tough'.

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Huh? He's been banged up almost the entire time he's been here it seems.

Hammy in '04, knee in '05, elbow in '06, etc.

Not enough to keep him out of the lineup, though one could argue he was banged up to the point where he shouldn't have played against Philly late last year. Maybe if they had rested him in that game he would have been fresher for Tampa.

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How about his 06 injury............. No one to throw the ball to during the playoffs!

That one hurt the most!

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I can tell you what is curious yet obvious. SWFL has a diverse group of football fans,as many have settled here from other parts of the country. Yesterday, in SW Florida, local Miami radio station (which I can pull in on a good day) had contest for listeners. If you had the choice to give HOF entry to ONE guy, who would it be? Choices are: Michael Irvin, Tim Brown, Andre Reed, Art Monk. Monk won handily! I was shocked. Nice to see the general public (if not the media trash) agrees he deserves it!

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Wasn't Campbell getting reps last week due to Brunell's rib injury? Also, remember Brunell's deep gash on his elbow? Brunell's been injured quite a bit since he got here, even though he hasn't missed games due to injury.

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[quote=Mattyk72;242140]Huh? He's been banged up almost the entire time he's been here it seems.

Hammy in '04, knee in '05, elbow in '06, etc.

Not enough to keep him out of the lineup, though one could argue he was banged up to the point where he shouldn't have played against Philly late last year. Maybe if they had rested him in that game he would have been fresher for Tampa.[/quote]

There was a finger or thumb problem too.

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[quote=offiss;242097]Is it any wonder that Brunell has yet to be injured since he arrived? I never even see the guy get hit hard, if our line is as bad as some say how come this hasen't happened? I really and truly never want to see someone injured, but I find it kind of funny that a QB as old as he is with a line that apparently can't pass protect, seem's to stay healthy enough to never miss a game? IIIIIIIIIRONIC![/quote]

our o line has only let 10 sacks this whole year. now compare that to the raider who have like 49 sacks.

our o line is very good at pass protection, now run blocking thats another story

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Speaking of protecting the QB, why do we allow such bitch ass rules for them? I mean are the other skill positions not as important? I say just drop the rules and let the guys play football.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;242325]Speaking of protecting the QB, why do we allow such bitch ass rules for them? I mean are the other skill positions not as important? I say just drop the rules and let the guys play football.[/quote]

I understand the intent of the rules to protect QBs, but the refs are so damn touchy with calling roughing the passer it's just ridiculous. The worst was in the Bengals-Bucs game this year where the Bengals got flagged for roughing on a sack. That was a piss poor call, one of the worst calls of all time if you ask me.

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[quote=Mattyk72;242332]I understand the intent of the rules to protect QBs, but the refs are so damn touchy with calling roughing the passer it's just ridiculous. The worst was in the Bengals-Bucs game this year where the Bengals got flagged for roughing on a sack. That was a piss poor call, one of the worst calls of all time if you ask me.[/quote]
I thought the Sean Taylor sack was kind of a lame call too...

It's one thing if you hit him late, and its flagrant... another if the QB is avoiding a sack, and your get him the only way you can, at his knees.

Why not protect lineman more? Why not protect punt returners? Lets make some consistency with our ruling... We all understand that the QB is a very valuable position, but that's almost implying everyone else isn't worth protecting.
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On the other hand, It's gotta be damn hard to discriminate what's a low blow, and whats a legit hit in an instant....

Mabye there should be an ref devoted entirely to the QB position... just watching him, and his knees, and the pass rushers... to make a call like that. It happends almost every game at least once.

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Those already exist. They're called Redskins fans.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;242127]Given the way the zebras protect the QB QUOTE]

Dead right RedskinRat. No one wants to see QBs getting injured but don't you think that the protection of them has gone too far? For example, Taylor got flagged for hitting Romo low which was just a ridiculous call - there was nothing malicious or dangerous about the hit at all. Soon the defenses will have to play flag football with the QBs.

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[quote=RobH4413;242352]I thought the Sean Taylor sack was kind of a lame call too...

It's one thing if you hit him late, and its flagrant... another if the QB is avoiding a sack, and your get him the only way you can, at his knees.

Why not protect lineman more? Why not protect punt returners? Lets make some consistency with our ruling... We all understand that the QB is a very valuable position, but that's almost implying everyone else isn't worth protecting.
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On the other hand, It's gotta be damn hard to discriminate what's a low blow, and whats a legit hit in an instant....

Mabye there should be an ref devoted entirely to the QB position... just watching him, and his knees, and the pass rushers... to make a call like that. It happends almost every game at least once.[/quote]

It comes down to the fact that the QB is the glamour position in the NFL. They are the big money guys, the faces of the franchises, and the last thing the NFL wants to see is a guy going down for the season like Palmer last year in the playoffs. Big time QBs = ratings, so the NFL tries to protect these guys at any cost.

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Just put a big Sack button on the QB's chest that lights up when you hit it. Yay! What fun to watch!

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I prefer the Easy button. Just have some school supplies drop on their heads! Brilliant.