Redskins Pending Free Agents
 

Matty, this is the kind of thing that would go nice in a Salary Cap / Personnel forum. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Here are the 'Skins pending free agents:

Derrick Dockery
Ethan Albright
Ladell Betts
TJ Duckett
Ade Jimoh
Derrick Frost
Kenny Wright
Warrick Holdman
Jeff Posey
Tyson Walter
Mike Pucillo
Vernon Fox
Todd Wade
Todd Yoder
Jim Molinaro
Ryan Boschetti

Some interesting decisions on this list:

Derrick Frost has punted alright, 42.3 yards per punt, 36.3 net of the return which is about middle of the NFL pack. Ethan Albright is a rock solid long snapper. Will GW let Holdman go and let Rocky play? Is Kenny Wright a goner? Will Ade be kept for teams? But most importantly, will the Redskins actively pursue Dockery to remain the starter at LG? He hasn't played well lately. And will Betts be back?

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[B]Derrick Dockery[/B]
[B]Ethan Albright[/B]
Ladell Betts (cap reasons dont permit)
[B]TJ Duckett[/B]
[B]Ade Jimoh[/B]
[B]Derrick Frost[/B]
[B]Kenny Wright[/B]
Warrick Holdman
Jeff Posey
Tyson Walter
Mike Pucillo
Vernon Fox
Todd Wade
Todd Yoder
Jim Molinaro
Ryan Boschetti

id like to keep bolded. it comes down to either betts or duckett, and i think duckett fits better with us. he would be a better change of pace for portis. betts is also 2 years older

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The only absolute keeper on that list to me is Big Red. And Ade of course. Ade is a given.

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I agree there. I want us to draft some better OL talent in the lower rounds of the draft this year.

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We are already talking next year?!?!? .... :(

Boy oh boy, we really do suck. All hope is lost.....

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Mathematically we're still alive. That's all I can say.

Until the defense figures itself out and we replace Brunell, it's going to be a long season.

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[quote=hesscl34;244966]We are already talking next year?!?!? .... :(

Boy oh boy, we really do suck. All hope is lost.....[/quote]

It's about time reality set in around here.

The Redskins should be using their remaining seven games to gather important information about the players they have on hand, and to ascertain their needs in the offseason.

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Seasons done, not just because of where we are (3-6) but also becuase of how we got here.

It hasn't been pretty, and theres no reason to believe they'll be a comeback. Everything sucks across the board...

Now, where it goes toward draft philosophy may get interesting...

I know alot of people dislike the current position we've taken towards the draft. I think with a monster coaching staff, It probably plays more towards our strengths if you build through the draft... The draft picks are probably better suited to be "coached" up. More open minded, if you will.

Why not bend the wallet in the coaching department still, but look at the draft as a way to build the team. Mabye I'm just stating the obvious... but to me it seems like the status quo isn't working, and we need some new direction.

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[quote=hesscl34;244966]We are already talking next year?!?!? .... :(

Boy oh boy, we really do suck. All hope is lost.....[/quote]

What have they demonstrated that would give you hope? The offense has produced 3 points in every division road game.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;244939]The only absolute keeper on that list to me is Big Red. And Ade of course. Ade is a given.[/QUOTE]

Ade is not a keeper. He has played like hell all season.

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only three or possibly four (todd wade) will get offers above vet min. all but TJ should be back, unless someone gives betts a chester taylor-like contract, or we sign roster upgrades at vet min to replace them.

the nice thing is we haven't have a FA to worry about the last two years... the bad news is we're not very good (and the last worthwhile FA went and became a pillar of the giants defense cause gibbs an co. wanted to save a total of what? 1mill over a 6 year deal?... oops!).

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[QUOTE=That Guy;245489]...(and the last worthwhile FA went and became a pillar of the giants defense cause gibbs an co. wanted to save a total of what? 1mill over a 6 year deal?... oops!).[/QUOTE]


Yep, and no one in the league seems as perpetually miffed about it. Ensuring that whenever he sees the Redskins on the schedule, he will make them pay for it for the rest of his career.

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I thought Ethan Albright had resigned a while back.

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Can we franchise Ade?

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[quote=Schneed10;244930]Matty, this is the kind of thing that would go nice in a Salary Cap / Personnel forum. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Here are the 'Skins pending free agents:

Derrick Dockery
Ethan Albright
Ladell Betts
TJ Duckett
Ade Jimoh
Derrick Frost
Kenny Wright
Warrick Holdman
Jeff Posey
Tyson Walter
Mike Pucillo
Vernon Fox
Todd Wade
Todd Yoder
Jim Molinaro
Ryan Boschetti

Some interesting decisions on this list:

Derrick Frost has punted alright, 42.3 yards per punt, 36.3 net of the return which is about middle of the NFL pack. Ethan Albright is a rock solid long snapper. Will GW let Holdman go and let Rocky play? Is Kenny Wright a goner? Will Ade be kept for teams? But most importantly, will the Redskins actively pursue Dockery to remain the starter at LG? He hasn't played well lately. And will Betts be back?[/quote]


Albright, and Dockery are pretty much only guarantees. Boschetti is probably gone, Mlinaro may stay. Jimoh is solid special teamer. other than those guys, I think everyone else is gone. No way Frost should stay. He is too inconsistant and really not all that good. i doubt we will be able to resign betts, teams will be looking to him as a possible starter (JETS) No way Duckett even gets into contract talk with us, all though he has been all class since coming here. Kenny wright is probably gone. I think we will go after a corner and move springs or rogers to nickel. Posey gone for sure. I hope they keep Dockery. He is big, strong, great run blocker. he has progressed each year which is what you want to see from young lineman. I think keeping this line together for the next couple of years is key to the team competing in the playoffs.

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[quote=Schneed10;244930]Matty, this is the kind of thing that would go nice in a Salary Cap / Personnel forum. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Here are the 'Skins pending free agents:

Derrick Dockery
Ethan Albright
Ladell Betts
TJ Duckett
Ade Jimoh
Derrick Frost
Kenny Wright
Warrick Holdman
Jeff Posey
Tyson Walter
Mike Pucillo
Vernon Fox
Todd Wade
Todd Yoder
Jim Molinaro
Ryan Boschetti

Some interesting decisions on this list:

Derrick Frost has punted alright, 42.3 yards per punt, 36.3 net of the return which is about middle of the NFL pack. Ethan Albright is a rock solid long snapper. Will GW let Holdman go and let Rocky play? Is Kenny Wright a goner? Will Ade be kept for teams? But most importantly, will the Redskins actively pursue Dockery to remain the starter at LG? He hasn't played well lately. And will Betts be back?[/quote]



Derrick Dockery let him go
Ethan Albright keep big red
Ladell Betts toss up between him and TJ... I'd lean towards TJ
TJ Duckett Keep if we cant afford Betts, or we need a short yardage guy... he really is one of the best in the business.
Ade Jimoh only if he's incredibly cheap. he cant cover, he's just a teamer
Derrick Frost keep. the kid is actually not bad
Kenny Wright BYE
Warrick Holdman BYE
Jeff Posey keep if cheap
Tyson Walter WHO?
Mike Pucillo ditto?
Vernon Fox keep for teams if cheap
Todd Wade gone
Todd Yoder gone
Jim Molinaro keep if we need the depth... dont see too much of him, though
Ryan Boschetti done

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[quote=Daseal;245504]I thought Ethan Albright had resigned a while back.[/quote]

he signs one year deals every year. that way he only counts 425k against the cap, instead of 850k (810k salary + 40k signing bonus).

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We have to keep Dockery. If we let him go, then we either have to overpay for a free agent, or use our 1st round pick on an o-lineman. Keep him. And we already cut Tyson Walter.

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Letting Dockery go is beyond stupid. One could argue he's been the best guard on our football team this year. Certainly playing better than Jansen. He's making progress, we always hear about draft young players and develop them. So how about we let someone develop here. As I've said before, he's made tangible progress every single year.

If we could field 11 ethan albrights on every play, I'd be a happy man.

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[quote=Daseal;246308]Letting Dockery go is beyond stupid. One could argue he's been the best guard on our football team this year. Certainly playing better than Jansen. He's making progress, we always hear about draft young players and develop them. So how about we let someone develop here. As I've said before, he's made tangible progress every single year.

If we could field 11 ethan albrights on every play, I'd be a happy man.[/quote]

One could indeed argue that Dockery is a better guard than Jansen. Especially considering Jansen is a tackle.

Dock has been disappointing this year after a decent year last season. Did you see how many Eagles came through the middle of our line in pass protection? He wasn't squeezing down to pick up blitzers. And if you go back and look at the Portis goalline snafu against the Cowboys, you'll see Dock is the one getting stoned on his blocks. I'm not sure what to do with him; all depends on the $ he commands, I guess.

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Dockery is the biggest concern next year. Skins should resign this guy. They've groomed him into a nice nfl starter he has a good combo of size and agility and seems to work well with Samuels.

I think the team is going to have a tough time signing him. He came into this season in great shape, something that's been a knock on him since he was drafted. So he's going to be looking for a substaintal contract.

And we all know the skins aren't very aggressive at signing their own FAs.

Holdman and Wright are toast.

Molinaro's not progressing, but if he's cheap, the skins have to resign him for OL depth.

Frost, who cares, he's nothing special, there's an army of guys who can replace him.

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[quote=Citizens for 81;246314]Dockery is the biggest concern next year. Skins should resign this guy. They've groomed him into a nice nfl starter he has a good combo of size and agility and seems to work well with Samuels.

I think the team is going to have a tough time signing him. He came into this season in great shape, something that's been a knock on him since he was drafted. So he's going to be looking for a substaintal contract.

And we all know the skins aren't very aggressive at signing their own FAs.

Holdman and Wright are toast.

Molinaro's not progressing, but if he's cheap, the skins have to resign him for OL depth.

Frost, who cares, he's nothing special, there's an army of guys who can replace him.[/quote]

My main concern with Dockery is that he is 360 and you would never know it. He should be pummeling defenders. I think he plays like he is 300. I definitely think that they could let him go and not suffer a huge drop-off.

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wright has been playing better than rogers, so he may be back (if another team doesn't sign him). dockery isn't going to get a huge deal, cause he's really not very good.

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I guess we should cut all the young talent the skins have tried to nurture and sign and trade for over-priced geezers to replace them.

Wright playing better than Rogers is debatable. Besides Wright is recycled garbage who at his best is an average nickle-back.

Cut Rogers and Dockery some slack they have a combined 4 years of experience and their best years are ahead of them.

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Depending on who's out there for LG I could easily see us letting Dockery go. Rabach is nothing special either, both guys get manhandled against physical d-lineman (think Dallas).

Dock's pass protection is nothing special either. I was holding out hope for him but now I doubt he's going to develop into anything more than a serviceable starter in this league.

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when is chris samuels a free agent again?

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;246790]when is chris samuels a free agent again?[/QUOTE]

He resigned two years ago (?). I think he's got 5 more years (basically until he retires or we release him).

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;246371]Depending on who's out there for LG I could easily see us letting Dockery go. Rabach is nothing special either, both guys get manhandled against physical d-lineman (think Dallas).

Dock's pass protection is nothing special either. I was holding out hope for him but now I doubt he's going to develop into anything more than a serviceable starter in this league.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think there's a good chance we might not re-sign Dock. Buges supposedly loves the guy, but he's had an up and down year. Did anyone see him get stood up by Bradie James down at the goalline on our first drive against the Cowboys 2 weeks ago?

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[quote=That Guy;246240]he signs one year deals every year. that way he only counts 425k against the cap, instead of 850k (810k salary + 40k signing bonus).[/quote]
I talked with Ethan's brother today at lunch. I asked him how Ethan was doing and whether if he knew Ethan was coming back next year or not. He said Ethan's doing well, then laughed and said that at this point in his career he basically just waits to get a phone call on whether he's supposed to report for work or not.

He told me he was going to a game in December and would try to hook me up with some stuff. I should have asked him to hook me up with some tickets. :D

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We should really try our best to keep the same five guys on the line, it will do wonders for our Al saunders offense next season, even if it involves slightly overpaying for Dock. He's Big enough and quick enough to develop into a better player, and he's a great guy.

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See, I'm in the middle when it comes to keeping people together. Sure, I don't want a turnstile for an offensive line, but if someone is better, I saw get them then let them mesh.