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Great article, though it is disappointing to hear about all the breakdowns in protection.

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Great read! I have respect for Jaws, and I feel like he says what he thinks. Fair assessment for JC. Good soild performance. Good call on the line as well. Full of holes this season

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Great, great article. It's disconcerting to hear a second knowledgeble source comment on Jansen's lack of stoutness. We must improve up front. In watching the Chefs last night, I noticed that their line is very quick and agile. I think this is key to executing Saunder's running game. Our guys seem stiff and slow compared to them. (The Chefs and the Broncos have two of the lightest O-lines in the league). If we stay with Al, we need to make some changes there. Bugel may not be the right line coach to teach those techniques. His background is all about size and strength and overwhelming the defense. Power football. I'm not saying we should stay with Saunders, but if we do, we have to make changes.

The other disappointing comment was to hear that Campbell was late with the ball. The QBs that have been successful in this type of attack (Troy Aikman and Trent Green leap to mind) were great at releasing the ball just as the receiver was coming out of his break. This requires field vision and anticipation. I remember being at Fedex in '98 and Green threw a deep out to L. Shepherd that was gone before Leslie even made his cut. I had a great angle on it. When the ball is released on time like that, the defenders get frozen because the receiver hasn't given them anything to react to yet. Henry Ellard was great at that. Great at not tipping off the secondary. When he got to the top of his route he could break it off any of six or seven different ways and only the QB (hopefully) and the coach knew which way that was. With Campbell, though, it may be that he just needs to gain more familiarity with the system. I hope that's the case. Some quarterbacks just can't do it. I saw Tony Banks play for us a couple of times in person and he could not release the ball until he had seen the receiver standing there open in the same spot for at least three seconds. I exagerate, but you get the idea.

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yeah, great article. I read it & had both hope & despair, but like Jaws said things like the missed protection happen all the time to teams w/bad records, it seems an indication of poor effort or communication, but hopefully isn't an indication of poor personnel.

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Campbell's flaws right now are to be expected. For his first start I came away very impressed. He can only improve from here on out.

I'm really hoping that Jansen's struggles are due to injury more than anything else. Remember after the win over Dallas he was limping badly. As we've seen in the past from him he'll play through just about anything. He could be hurting more than we even know right now.

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I hope that is the case! We really need him to anchor this DAMN line

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The most encouraging thing is that they think he is an NFL quarterback - something that could not be said of a number of recent QB busts (Shuler, Wueffrel or however you spell his name, etc). Worrying that the o-line is giving up such big plays and I'm concerned that this can't be rectified with current personel.

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[quote=Mattyk72;250242]Remember after the win over Dallas he was limping badly.[/quote]

On Monday Night Live he claimed that it wasn't a limp. He said he was just being goofy.

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#1 I love how he calls out the Saunders-haters.
#2 Jansen has been getting bull-rushed and beat around the edges for quite some time. He hasn't been a top-flight RT in 3 years.
#3 Definately encouraged by the article.

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it's pretty high praise coming from jaws

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Great article.

I thought it was interesting to see how much can be attributed to protection and line play. There are so many things we can't see on tv, and often broken plays are due to poor protection, not necessarily a bad play call or bad throw.

This is relevant to the Skins for 2 reasons:

1. It shows how much our O-line breakdowns are hurting us. I wasn't thrilled to read this...

"For Jaworski, this is the play of the game. He loves Saunders's game plan, but says the pass protection, particularly tackles Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels, is preventing touchdown opportunities. Jansen, Jaworski says, is "getting pushed backwards more than I've ever seen him," while Cosell considers Samuels "a nice player, but not an anchor over there."

...but I doubt this comes as a big surprise to any of us. Jansen no longer appears to be a stabilizing force on our line. And Samuels, though decent, has never really taken his game to the next level and ANCHORED this line. I have nothing against Samuels, but he's our biggest cap hit, and has received more cash than any Redskins player in HISTORY. I just wish he was more dominant, but it looks like that may never happen.

2. It shows how a lack of pressure from our D-line makes life so much easier on the opposing offense. Even when the opposing offense calls the right play against us and has us beat, some pressure from our D-line can still turn the play in our favor.

"There's your touchdown. . . . They beat the defense. The problem is that the defense beats the protection."

The bottom line is we are losing the war in the trenches.

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As for Campbell, I was pretty impressed with his play, especially considering it was his first start.

But did anyone else notice he seems to throw a weird ball??? I don't know how to describe it. It looks like he's palming the ball and every time he throws it looks like the ball is gonna go straight into the ground. Anyone else notice this?

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It's good to know that the Saunders offense is showing TD opportunities on film. I really believe that if the O-line improves the protection, this offense will really take off with Campbell. Our WRs simply have too much speed for opposing defenses that fail to get in the QBs face.

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Not that it is going to save us this season. if you believe any of the Gibbs rant thing. maybe these boys can play for pride or for their jobs for next year amd give an inclination in the next few games of what Al's O can do?

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;250286]As for Campbell, I was pretty impressed with his play, especially considering it was his first start.

But did anyone else notice he seems to throw a weird ball??? I don't know how to describe it. It looks like he's palming the ball and every time he throws it looks like the ball is gonna go straight into the ground. Anyone else notice this?[/quote]


It does seem different. I think that this is what Jaws and the young Cosell were referencing when they were discussing his windup. At first I thought it just seemed weird because he's right handed and tall whereas we've been watching Brunell for a while who was left handed and short (for a quarterback). He seems to be decently accurate so as long as he doesn't get stripped by the rushers on his release, I don't think they should mess with it.

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[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;250285]Great article.

I thought it was interesting to see how much can be attributed to protection and line play. There are so many things we can't see on tv, and often broken plays are due to poor protection, not necessarily a bad play call or bad throw.

This is relevant to the Skins for 2 reasons:

1. It shows how much our O-line breakdowns are hurting us. I wasn't thrilled to read this...

"For Jaworski, this is the play of the game. He loves Saunders's game plan, but says the pass protection, particularly tackles Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels, is preventing touchdown opportunities. Jansen, Jaworski says, is "getting pushed backwards more than I've ever seen him," while Cosell considers Samuels "a nice player, but not an anchor over there."

...but I doubt this comes as a big surprise to any of us. Jansen no longer appears to be a stabilizing force on our line. And Samuels, though decent, has never really taken his game to the next level and ANCHORED this line. I have nothing against Samuels, but he's our biggest cap hit, and has received more cash than any Redskins player in HISTORY. I just wish he was more dominant, but it looks like that may never happen.

2. It shows how a lack of pressure from our D-line makes life so much easier on the opposing offense. Even when the opposing offense calls the right play against us and has us beat, some pressure from our D-line can still turn the play in our favor.

"There's your touchdown. . . . They beat the defense. The problem is that the defense beats the protection."

The bottom line is we are losing the war in the trenches.[/QUOTE]

Bill Parcells made the exact same observation about Jansen. Said something to the effect of him losing a step and not being the player he was a few years ago.

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Great article! It's nice to have a credible source validate that JC has the chops to play, instead of that toolbag Salisbury.

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I find it comforting that Saunders system doesn't seem to be the problem according to Jaws. The plays are good, the players keep messing them up. People keep ripping Saunders, but I kind of doubted that he all of a sudden couldn't coach anymore.

Hopefully we can get the kinks ironed out over the last 6 games and come out next year swinging. Now, can the defense do something?

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It's encouraging but also annoying because it makes me think he could have been doing this all season if Gibbs wasn't stuck on Brunold..

Jansen and Samuels have been turnstiles this year (really for a couple years) so that's nothing new. I think Saunders is going to have to adjust a little and use a TE as a blocker more than he is used to doing because we need help in protection..

Jaws endorsement is as good as gold in my eyes..

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[quote=Jason72;250379]I find it comforting that Saunders system doesn't seem to be the problem according to Jaws. The plays are good, the players keep messing them up. People keep ripping Saunders, but I kind of doubted that he all of a sudden couldn't coach anymore.

Hopefully we can get the kinks ironed out over the last 6 games and come out next years swinging. Now, can the defense can do something?[/quote]

I am not directly my comments to you Jason, but to Saunders haters.

I have been preaching that this entire year. It is not Saunders, seriously. But it's all good, if it takes Jaws to convince you all, then so be it. I dont say I told you so, but I told you so.

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What part does bugal play?
Does he not fully understand what Saunders is trying to do?
Is Saunders not correcting Bugal because he has the same rank(Ass. Head Coach)?

In the Dallas game, On fourth and goal, Dockery pulled to the right and met a linebacker in the hole. The unknown linebacker stands dockery up and makes the tackle on portis. I hate dockery and samuels :( :( I even hate them more than archuleta, Stanley Richards, and Heath Shular.

I think it's time to blowup out offensive and defensive lines. Toobad samuels makes too much money.

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Jansen has been gettting pushed around in pass pro all year long. If he's hurt than sit him on the bench. If he's not then make him accountable. That's the problem with this team. No ones accountable. What needs to happen is sit some of these guys down on the bench.
As fas as Campbell of curse he going to be rusty on some stuff. He hasn't started a game in a long time. He'll be just fine. Off the charts talent. I honestly don't know why Alex Smith went ahead of him.

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[quote=Paintrain;250385]It's encouraging but also annoying because it makes me think he could have been doing this all season if Gibbs wasn't stuck on Brunold.. ..[/quote]

This Is what upsets me also...If he was just a bum I could understand....But Why didn't we see this guy alot earlier with his obvious talent...I mean Brunell wasn't winning games anyway.. Makes me wonder about Gibbs...I still love him ...But not happy about it..

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Might not hurt to focus a little on the O-line in next year's draft.

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[quote=Paintrain;250385]...Jansen and Samuels have been turnstiles this year (really for a couple years) so that's nothing new...[/quote]

What? Samuels played in the probowl last year. Although, I would agee he's playing horrible this season this year.

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[QUOTE=railcon56;250449]This Is what upsets me also...If he was just a bum I could understand....But Why didn't we see this guy alot earlier with his obvious talent...I mean Brunell wasn't winning games anyway.. Makes me wonder about Gibbs...I still love him ...But not happy about it..[/QUOTE]

Hard to say that Campbell would have showed the same poise he showed on Sunday two or three weeks ago.

As for Samuels making the pro bowl last year, that really doesn't mean anything. Fewer and fewer players are getting in on merit anyway

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Those of you who want to let Saunders off the hook need to remember that he is the Offensive Coordinator. He is responsible for the play of the line as well. He is not the receivers coach. If Bugel isn't getting it done, then Saunders is suppossed to deal with that. We all knew going in that the O-Line was going to need to learn new techniques and a new approach. One that was new to Bugel as well. If they aren't getting it done, then Saunders let something slip along the way.

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[quote]As for Samuels making the pro bowl last year, that really doesn't mean anything. Fewer and fewer players are getting in on merit anyway[/quote]

Didn't Samuels allow an amazingly tiny amounts of sacks last year?

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[quote=jamf;250429]What part does bugal play?
Does he not fully understand what Saunders is trying to do?
Is Saunders not correcting Bugal because he has the same rank[B][U](Ass. Head Coach)?[/U][/B]

In the Dallas game, On fourth and goal, Dockery pulled to the right and met a linebacker in the hole. The unknown linebacker stands dockery up and makes the tackle on portis. I hate dockery and samuels :( :( I even hate them more than archuleta, Stanley Richards, and Heath Shular.

I think it's time to blowup out offensive and defensive lines. Toobad samuels makes too much money.[/quote]


hehehehe...get it? Asshead coach!?!?! HAHAHAH!!!! PRICELESS! ok, im done now....