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Well, I read the Tom Friend article and it disturbed me. Then I listened to Tom Friend on Riggins' radio show. He's a diehard Skins fan. His phone rings Hail to the Redskins. I believe him when he says that more than 1 Redskin was the source to his article and Im worried. If what he reports is true, and I have no reason to doubt him, then major changes in the coaching staff need to be made.

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well, calls for change have been coming since the preseason, so that's not that new ;).

the offensive side has had quite a few issues this year as well.

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Well I would say that if it is true we shouldn't necessarily get rid of Gregg Williams. Remember, we suffered through five d-coordinators in five season (was that it)? Everyone complained about the lack of continuity. Getting rid of coaches isnt any more of a solution than overspending for free agents is. If this story is true what needs to be done is for Coach Gibbs to control and correct this behavior with his coaches. Only after that option has been exhausted should the dismissal option be considered. Now that said, I don't see a reason for separate safety and cb coaches. That seems excessive.

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the article made me crazy i was tryin 2 figure out who would it be the leak but I have 2 believe whut coach Gibbs say's and he did'nt seem 2 be affect az i waz so We WON and they should ALOT of Character and im good

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i think it was phillip daniels, he didn't start and gibbs said that he read what daniels said in the article.

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[quote=dall-assblows;251927]i think it was phillip daniels, he didn't start and gibbs said that he read what daniels said in the article.[/quote]

No Daniels just said guys need to step up their preparation and intensity.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;251927]i think it was phillip daniels, he didn't start and gibbs said that he read what daniels said in the article.[/QUOTE]

Wasnt Daniels the only on-record pro-Williams source in the article?

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[quote=dall-assblows;251927]i think it was phillip daniels, he didn't start and gibbs said that he read what daniels said in the article.[/quote]
it wasn't daniels they say hiz name the name they don't say know's 2 much about the secondary and had 2 be in the secondary 2 talk about the safty coach like that

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I heard the interview as well. What stood out to me was that when Riggo asked him if he had an offseason laundry list of what the skins might do, and Tom Friend said "well, will they cut Springs and sign Nate Clements?".......

Why would he ask if the Skins were going to cut Springs? Maybe because Springs wants to get cut? I don't know .....just throwing some stuff out there.

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[quote=djnemo65;251935]Wasnt Daniels the only on-record pro-Williams source in the article?[/quote]

i dont know, i only read half b/c too depressing.

i just heard that gibbs talked to daniels about what he said in the article. don't know what daniels sad though

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[quote=Redskins_P;251941]I heard the interview as well. What stood out to me was that when Riggo asked him if he had an offseason laundry list of what the skins might do, and Tom Friend said "well, will they cut Springs and sign Nate Clements?".......

Why would he ask if the Skins were going to cut Springs? Maybe because Springs wants to get cut? I don't know .....just throwing some stuff out there.[/quote]

good pick up, interesting.........very interesting.........

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If they sign Nate Clements then they will probably have to cut Shawn Springs - Clements wouldn't want to sign unless he was assured of being a starter, and Rogers is too young to let go.

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[QUOTE=Oakland Red;251948]If they sign Nate Clements then they will probably have to cut Shawn Springs - Clements wouldn't want to sign unless he was assured of being a starter, and Rogers is too young to let go.[/QUOTE]

True, but my point is.....why would the Redskins cut Springs? He's clearly one of our leaders on defense and our best corner.

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i heard alot of rumors saying that it was Springs and on the radio after the game i guy asked certain players whut they thought and he'd say most of the guy did'nt lik it but Springs said sumthing funny and said its okAy for a guy 2 be T.O. because he get's attention Bram said that on da post-game report but i heard he said it wasn't him on comcast but i don't no

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[quote=Skinnzz;251956]i heard alot of rumors saying that it was Springs and on the radio after the game i guy asked certain players whut they thought and he'd say most of the guy did'nt lik it but Springs said sumthing funny and said its okAy for a guy 2 be T.O. because he get's attention Bram said that on da post-game report but i heard he said it wasn't him on comcast but i don't no[/quote]

what language is that?

seriously learn to s-p-e-l-l

[U]just [B]fucking[/B] with you man, but that is true what you said.[/U]

it may have ben springs, seriously. he was acting funny about the whole thing to me

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If they sign Clements than Springs will have to be cut - you can't pay 2 corners that much money and leave the D-Line they way it is. Plus Springs will make over $7.5 million next year and he was out for half the year this year so do the Skins take that chance again? What was interesting is according to the releasing fee schedule on this site if the Skins cut him after this year the releasing fee is down to $4.9 million from $7.4, if the Skins cut Springs in 2008 the releasing fee goes down to $2.5 million - I could see them cutting him after 2008 since his cap number will be $8.4 in 2009 and the releasing fee will only be $2.5 million. They could than draft another corner or sign a free agent at that time and the cap would be saved in 2007.

My bet on the mole is Adam Archuletta - he has been relegated to punt team and he can't even get that right. The coaches have been reported to make a mockery of him at practice and he seems like he really wants out of here.

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I heard an interview with Springs, on i think it was Redskins.com, after the game and he said it wasn't him, because if it had been him he would've spoke up about it, if he had an issue people would know.

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funny guy i should have known by your name but yea it's true and him and T.O. are friends but i don't no he really don't seem like that type of person

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[quote=Bill B;251959]If they sign Clements than Springs will have to be cut - you can't pay 2 corners that much money and leave the D-Line they way it is. Plus Springs will make over $7.5 million next year and he was out for half the year this year so do the Skins take that chance again?...
My bet on the mole is Adam Archuletta - he has been relegated to punt team and he can't even get that right. The coaches have been reported to make a mockery of him at practice and he seems like he really wants out of here.[/quote]

Another option that hasn't been mentioned here. I think I read somewhere that Springs would consider a move to safety to extend his career. I could see Springs being a great complement to Taylor in the safety position since he's a superior cover guy and solid tackler. Realistically, that's what I figured we'd being going after instead of AA. Archuleta is basically another Taylor style safety.

I would agree with you on Archuleta being the mole except for the fact that a lot of the info from the article would indicate the player has been with the organization since Williams arrived on the scene. OMG, what if its Ade?:spank:

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Moving Springs to safety ehhhh????????? Interesting. Springs might also take a reserve role, albeit an expensive one. He is having a lot of injury problems, and at his age will probably get worse

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Tom Friend is going to be on the Riggo show again today at 5

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Springs himself has said that he's intrigued over possibly moving to safety to prolong his career. He's certainly got the size and enough speed.

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I'm glad it's out in the open. Maybe they will actually do something to fix the problem now!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;252300]Springs himself has said that he's intrigued over possibly moving to safety to prolong his career. He's certainly got the size and enough speed.[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/2117-post9.html"]Ahem[/URL]

(never mind the last part about not drafting Taylor :) )

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[quote=TAFKAS;252318][URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/2117-post9.html"]Ahem[/URL]

(never mind the last part about not drafting Taylor :) )[/quote]

Prophetic! Sage wisdom....................how do you back date your posts like that?

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[quote=LongTimeSkinsFan;252055]Another option that hasn't been mentioned here. I think I read somewhere that Springs would consider a move to safety to extend his career. I could see Springs being a great complement to Taylor in the safety position since he's a superior cover guy and solid tackler. Realistically, that's what I figured we'd being going after instead of AA. Archuleta is basically another Taylor style safety.

I would agree with you on Archuleta being the mole except for the fact that a lot of the info from the article would indicate the player has been with the organization since Williams arrived on the scene. OMG, what if its Ade?:spank:[/quote]

But Springs explained Sunday how it could be someone that hasn't been here long because he said " much of what was said was common knowledge". Why would Springs even say that unless he thought it was a person who fit that description.

The article itself even said that the player who was talking could be accused by other players of having an axe to grind.

I am 90% sure it was AA.

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Who said "the person should come out with who they were, being TO isnt that bad"?

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I don't even care who said what at this point.

We'll probably find out eventually, until then we still have 5 games to play.

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[quote=Mattyk72;252625]I don't even care who said what at this point.

We'll probably find out eventually, until then we still have 5 games to play.[/quote]

I agree. This story has been beaten to a pulp.

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If I were Gibbs, I would have done exactly the same thing. Publicly, he implyed, he would not dignify the story based on innuendo, speculation, or other Jerry Springer type tactics. No names-no story. Privately, if he has not been, he will get a little more involved in Gregs business until he can get a warm fuzzy that things are as they should be.

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[quote=Hog1;252656]If I were Gibbs, I would have done exactly the same thing. Publicly, he implyed, he would not dignify the story based on innuendo, speculation, or other Jerry Springer type tactics. No names-no story. Privately, if he has not been, he will get a little more involved in Gregs business until he can get a warm fuzzy that things are as they should be.[/quote]

I 100% agree.