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carlosrogerisdaman22 12-01-2006 04:56 PM

Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games. :food-smil

Southpaw 12-01-2006 04:57 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=carlosrogerisdaman22;253939]WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games. :food-smil[/quote]

I think you need to start a few more threads...

gibbsisgod 12-01-2006 04:58 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
He has shown some promise but hasn't even throw for 200 yards in a game yet. I'm still in the [I]not sure[/I] category.

hesscl34 12-01-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
by next year we'll want to hang him if he isn't PERFECT.

gibbsisgod 12-01-2006 05:06 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=hesscl34;253943]by next year we'll want to hang him if he isn't PERFECT.[/quote]I hope the fans give him a little more time since he is Gibbs guy. I LOVE what I see fom him now because I see the talent. He has missed some throws but he made the big one when it counted. That being said, I'm not totally sold on him yet. I was a huge Ramsey fan after his first game when he played great and look where he ended up!

That Guy 12-01-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
wait and see. he still has a lot of accuracy problems to work out. the other stuff and redzone passing are fine though, which is encouraging.

carlosrogerisdaman22 12-01-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
i think Campbell wil have a good game vs the falcons, over 260 yards 3TDs

GTripp0012 12-01-2006 05:13 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=gibbsisgod;253949]I hope the fans give him a little more time since he is Gibbs guy. I LOVE what I see fom him now because I see the talent. He has missed some throws but he made the big one when it counted. That being said, I'm not totally sold on him yet. I was a huge Ramsey fan after his first game when he played great and look where he ended up![/quote]Jason Campbell has struggled in his first two starts like you would expect ANY guy getting his first few starts to do. That said, he's obviously shown the poise and leadership to make be believe that he will fufill his statistical projection and be a great player for years to come.

I think theres an inherent difference between him and Ramsey. One obvious thing is that I think both his talent and expectations far exceed what Ramsey had to deal with. Secondly, I think he's in a much better situation. He's not getting blasted every play, and he has better coaching than Ramsey did.

Ramsey was an average starting NFL QB and I expect Campbell to exceed that soon. By this time next year, I feel the differences between Campbell and Ramsey should be clear.

GTripp0012 12-01-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
Also it's important to remember that this guy is NOT some wide eyed rookie. He's a player who is deep into his 2nd season. Trust me, it makes a difference.

61cad 12-01-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=carlosrogerisdaman22;253939]WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games. :food-smil[/quote]

Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?

gibbsisgod 12-01-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;253954]Jason Campbell has struggled in his first two starts like you would expect ANY guy getting his first few starts to do. That said, he's obviously shown the poise and leadership to make be believe that he will fufill his statistical projection and be a great player for years to come.

I think theres an inherent difference between him and Ramsey. One obvious thing is that I think both his talent and expectations far exceed what Ramsey had to deal with. Secondly, I think he's in a much better situation. He's not getting blasted every play, and he has better coaching than Ramsey did.

Ramsey was an average starting NFL QB and I expect Campbell to exceed that soon. By this time next year, I feel the differences between Campbell and Ramsey should be clear.[/quote]
How much do you think the situation hurt Ramsey? I think it was the reason he wasn't a great QB. He had the arm, the smarts, and toughness to play the position. Playing in an offense that was basically not worried a bit about protecting the qb ruined his confidence. I will always believe that Spurrier ruined that kid.

SkinsLove24/7 12-01-2006 05:29 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=carlosrogerisdaman22;253939]WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games. :food-smil[/quote]


In the latest issue of SI it says that Campbell is one of 4 QB's to ever throw for 2 or more TD's in each of his 2 first starts. The funny thing was that 3 of the 4 were Redskins. I think Rypien was one and of course JC.

GTripp0012 12-01-2006 05:31 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=gibbsisgod;253959]How much do you think the situation hurt Ramsey? I think it was the reason he wasn't a great QB. He had the arm, the smarts, and toughness to play the position. Playing in an offense that was basically not worried a bit about protecting the qb ruined his confidence. I will always believe that Spurrier ruined that kid.[/quote]I don't think it broke him. I don't think he let all the pressure break his confidence, and thats a tribute to his toughness.

I think what it hurt most was his learning curve. It was hard for him to make a week to week improvement back in 2003 because Spurrier was more worried about making his system work than he was about protecting his QB. I think Spurrier ruined his season, and retarded his growth...but I don't think he broke him as a player.

He didn't improve statistically much under Gibbs in 2004, even when I expected him to. I think he was just an average player with above average toughness.

That Guy 12-01-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
ramsey's problem was simple - he didn't EVER throw over the top, every pass was a javelin thrown AFTER the WR got open.

he never anticipated breaks or threw arcs until gibbs came in. it's another example of an NFL front office falling in love with a guy's fastball.

wilsowilso 12-01-2006 06:08 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
How many incarnations of kidwell can one "Warpath" universe contain?

charlielyons 12-01-2006 06:10 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
lets wait and see im not totally sold, but he has alot of composure and a hell of an arm

hooskins 12-01-2006 06:52 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=charlielyons;253980]lets wait and see im not totally sold, but he has alot of composure and a hell of an arm[/quote]
not totally sold on carlosrogerisdaman being kidwell or Jason Campbell being the man?
To take kidwell's shoes you need a ton of composure when everyone is all over you, and probably need one hell of an arm to have 58 on your first day(his second arm and hand are probably being used for hand relief).

carlosrogerisdaman22 12-01-2006 06:59 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=61cad;253957]Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?[/quote]
\

i drive a 2007 e350 to work :food-smil

Longtimefan 12-01-2006 07:04 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[QUOTE=carlosrogerisdaman22;253939]WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games. :food-smil[/QUOTE]



Come on man, you're talking about a young QB who has only started two games in his professional career. It's much to early to make any kind of judgement about what type QB he going to turn out to be. We know he has many of the ingredients, and that's about all we can offer up at this stage of his development. Only time will tell if he's the man, but we've first got to give him that.

bigSkinsfan61 12-01-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
i really believe in my "heart of hearts" that jason will turn out to be a very good if not great qb just give him time hell sho he is what hes supposed to be a winner all of his life

dall-assblows 12-01-2006 07:10 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
ok i liked your first thread a little (the one about FA and Draft) but this is getting redicuous

hesscl34 12-01-2006 07:29 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=That Guy;253973]ramsey's problem was simple - he didn't EVER throw over the top, every pass was a javelin thrown AFTER the WR got open.

he never anticipated breaks or threw arcs until gibbs came in. it's another example of an NFL front office falling in love with a guy's fastball.[/quote]

AND he was a freakin head case. He couldnt' take ANY pressure.

dmek25 12-01-2006 09:36 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=carlosrogerisdaman22;254000]\

i drive a 2007 e350 to work :food-smil[/quote]
what is an e350?

LMsexyAO 12-01-2006 09:54 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
66 posts in one day is too fucking much, that's what I think.

GhettoDogAllStars 12-01-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;254071]what is an e350?[/QUOTE]

Econoline 350:

[IMG]http://www.discoverycarrentals.com/images/cars/budget_fvar.jpg[/IMG]

redskins5044 12-01-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
lets at least give him a chance. i can already see it now when we go into next year with jason as our starter and he struggles a little. everyone calling for his head either stating we should have kept brunell around or we should have signed FA QB. he is our future whether you like it or not and also gibbs furture we gave all those picks to get him so he better be given a chance not just another wasted draft pick or FA who never pans out or given a fair shot

hesscl34 12-01-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=LMsexyAO;254077]66 posts in one day is too fucking much, that's what I think.[/quote]

#22 better have thick skin......... just like the real #22.... lots of shit coming yoru way in the future!!!!!!!

LMsexyAO 12-01-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=hesscl34;254083]#22 better have thick skin......... just like the real #22.... lots of shit coming yoru way in the future!!!!!!![/quote]

No, I think it's past the bedtime of most 7th grade girls. I wouldn't mind as much if he had the ability to express a coherent thought, but anyone can see this thread is pointless. Ridexile? 3rd id soldier? carlosroggers? Three of them in one week and they make this entire website look like a joke.

carlosrogerisdaman22 12-01-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=dmek25;254071]what is an e350?[/quote]

this is a mercedes E350

[URL]http://www.cardata.com/2005/2006_Mercedes-Benz_E350_Sedan.jpg[/URL]

carlosrogerisdaman22 12-01-2006 10:33 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=hesscl34;254083]#22 better have thick skin......... just like the real #22.... lots of shit coming yoru way in the future!!!!!!![/quote]


bring it on , my skins is thicker than a brick wall. :tongue

Redskins8588 12-01-2006 11:40 PM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[QUOTE=carlosrogerisdaman22;254093]bring it on , my skins is thicker than a brick wall. :tongue[/QUOTE]

Yeah so is your head!!!:benched:

MTK 12-02-2006 12:17 AM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
JC has a long way to go. I like what we've seen so far, but let's not get too crazy here. He's still settling in and needs a lot more game experience before we can really get a handle on what kind of player he's going to be.

SanFranSkinsFan 12-02-2006 02:29 AM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
I agree completely. He does have excellent physical skills and can run around a bit. He really has a live arm. What I like most about him is that he's a winner and he's an athelete. I think his upside is huge and we'll see if he can blow up the Falcons this weekend. Please JC.

vaoutlaws2006 12-02-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?
 
[quote=SanFranSkinsFan;254135]I agree completely. He does have excellent physical skills and can run around a bit. He really has a live arm. What I like most about him is that he's a winner and he's an athelete. I think his upside is huge and we'll see if he can blow up the Falcons this weekend. Please JC.[/quote]



JC does put the mustard on it doesnt he? the pop the ball makes when it hits the receivers hands. I like what i see with him....he's got some skills that you just cant coach.......i think he should have been playing alot sooner.


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