Another poor play calling game by Gibbs
 

Chance to go ahead in the 4th quarter, Skins down but with the ball inside the 10. Gibbs again has TJ Duckett and at times Betts on the sidelines. All the personell changes in the world ain't gonna give us good clock managment or playcalling in the redzone.

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I agree.

The feild goal call on 4th and 1 AFTER we took a timeout pissed me off for two reasons.....

a) You dont take a time out to kick a FG in that situation. That timeout (although we prob wouldnt have driven 80 yards in :37 seconds, gives us at least a chance to win)
b) What the hell do we have to lose?

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Yeah - two of those field goals on fourth down should have been attempts for the first down or for the endzone. We were down 21-3 and went for a field goal - just go for the f-ing touchdown, it's not like we've got a lot to lose. Playing conservatively has gotten us nowhere...we need some killer instinct.

I amazed we came within 2 points of winning frankly.

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Stupid time out is all you can really say about that, and maybe he had Duckett in if you want to go there but honestly drawing it intoa 2 point game an dhaving faith in out defense when they are playing well is not a bad thing.

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im not sure wat the brain trust is thinking. for christ sakes, we are 4-9

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They are thinking, gee we play not to lose this game, although we aren't playing for anything but pride at this point, and they aren't willing to lay the cards out on the table.

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At least we kept calling those outside runs. I think there were probably about 10 of them that combined for -13yrds. It's nice to see them stick with what isn't working.

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Yes, kicking the final FG down by 5 was purely candy-assical. It made us look like we're afraid to lose, which of course, we did anyway. We're a lousy football team, and beating the Eagles and hurting their playoff chances would have gone a long way toward boosting our confidence. Terrible decision by Gibbs & Co.

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I REST MY CASE FROM ALL OF LAST WEEK!

It certainly just keeps getting stronger!!! Sorry to all the "faithful"

btw, if AZ wins, there are only THREE, that is 3 teams that have worse records than us. THREE of 32!

Anyway, no need to keep stating the obvious... way to go Gibbs.

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do you really think it is 100% gibbs fault?

if so, thats stupid

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;258275]do you really think it is 100% gibbs fault?

if so, thats stupid[/QUOTE]

okay fine... maybe only 95%. no doubt in my mind betts scores in the red zone there on our last drive. betts scores, we win.

duckett in the game, we lose. just one of many bad play calls/game management decisions.

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Our defense was playing pretty well up until the last Philly drive when we couldn't stop them. I don't think it was that bad of a call to kick the FG and put it in the hands of the D to get the ball back. If we would have just finished some of those awesome drives we had with TDs it would have been a different story. Kind of difficult to pin the game on one FG, IMO.

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[quote=mason4415;258277]okay fine... maybe only 95%. no doubt in my mind betts scores in the red zone there on our last drive. betts scores, we win.

duckett in the game, we lose. just one of many bad play calls/game management decisions.[/quote]

They were saying on the radio that Betts might have been winded which is why they pulled Betts down near the endzone.

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[quote=mason4415;258277]okay fine... maybe only 95%. no doubt in my mind betts scores in the red zone there on our last drive. [B]betts scores, we win.[/B]

duckett in the game, we lose. just one of many bad play calls/game management decisions.[/quote]

maybe so, but if he hadn't put in duckett, then u would be complaining about how 'duckett wasn't used properly'. i know that is what would of happened, don't even say that you wouldn't say that.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;258281]maybe so, but if he hadn't put in duckett, then u would be complaining about how 'duckett wasn't used properly'. i know that is what would of happened, don't even say that you wouldn't say that.[/QUOTE]

Nah man, people only say that whenever Betts/Portis gets stuffed. Then it's all, "where was Duckett?" I used to do that. Well, I'll stand up and say I was wrong. I said Duckett was a better runner. I was 100% wrong. Betts is the better runner.

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2 picks lost us ht egame today, not play calling

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;258281]maybe so, but if he hadn't put in duckett, then u would be complaining about how 'duckett wasn't used properly'. i know that is what would of happened, don't even say that you wouldn't say that.[/QUOTE]

oh god. not a chance in hell... i have never in my life said anything positive about t.j. duckett.

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Was it just me or did we seem lose our "nastyness" when we got down into the redzone, today?

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play calling was pretty bad. It wasn't the only reason we lost, but there's no doubt in my mind that if it had been better we would've won.

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Play calling didn't lose the game. The game was managed well. Our defense (that had only been on the field for a total of 20 minutes and was well-rested) lost the game for us. They give up no first downs or only one first down and we have 2-3 minutes to kick a game-winning FG. The earlier FG is a toss-up on whether you kick it or go for it. The one at the end of the game was a good call, there was 5 mins left on the clock.

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Play calling had very little to do with the game today. I don't like all the play action passes against a blitzing defense but for the most part it was good. The difference in the game was the two TO's. Two TO's = 14 points for the Eagles. Plain and simple.

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I don't think Gibbs is calling plays. Last I heard, it's still Al Saunders. But what the hell, let's blame Gibbs....
Stoooopid.
Dallas Sucks. Go Saints.

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It's hard to win when you spot a team 14 easy points off turnovers.

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Yea Saunders is calling the plays. That is the usual job of the offensive coordinator. I think the only questionable play call was the slant to Cooley on 3rd and 9 that got picked off. It was a bad play for that situation. The playcalling was good and particularly balanced which is Saunders theme. 205 passing and 210 rushing is solid. The simple reson for the loss is 2 INT's that resulted in 14 points.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;258301]Yea Saunders is calling the plays. That is the usual job of the offensive coordinator. I think the only questionable play call was the slant to Cooley on 3rd and 9 that got picked off. It was a bad play for that situation. The playcalling was good and particularly balanced which is Saunders theme. 205 passing and 210 rushing is solid. The simple reson for the loss is 2 INT's that resulted in 14 points.[/quote]

JC shouldn't have forced that throw, but that's life with an inexperienced QB.

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We were inside the 5 with a chance to take the lead, and could not get it done. TOO MANY MEN IN THE HUDDLE? WTF?

We've shown we can run the ball, and move it to the 20 with efficiency. Our red zone play has been weak all year, and today was no exception. THere's a place where I lay it all on Gibbs and Saunders--their red zone paly book has not been sharp all year, to say the least. But how can you get a 12 men in the huddle penalty? We took lots of bad penalties today. TOs hurt, no doubt, as well.

THe bright side: it's on us. We can fix these things. If a team can get 400+ yards of offense, they have the ability to score points. And if they get their heads out of their asses at crucial moments, we won't be moving backward because of mental mistakes.

FInally, how many INTs have we dropped this year? Christ, if they kept that stat, we'd have the record, no doubt.

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[quote=JWsleep;258306]We were inside the 5 with a chance to take the lead, and could not get it done. TOO MANY MEN IN THE HUDDLE? WTF?

We've shown we can run the ball, and move it to the 20 with efficiency. Our red zone play has been weak all year, and today was no exception. THere's a place where I lay it all on Gibbs and Saunders--their red zone paly book has not been sharp all year, to say the least. But how can you get a 12 men in the huddle penalty? We took lots of bad penalties today. TOs hurt, no doubt, as well.

THe bright side: it's on us. We can fix these things. If a team can get 400+ yards of offense, they have the ability to score points. And if they get their heads out of their asses at crucial moments, we won't be moving backward because of mental mistakes.

FInally, how many INTs have we dropped this year? Christ, if they kept that stat, we'd have the record, no doubt.[/quote]

We drop a lot of ints and it always drives em crazy and yes our capitalization was weak today but still those 2 picks cost us the game

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[quote=Redskin;258310]but still those 2 picks cost us the game[/quote]

and call me crazy, but I don't think Gibbs called the "throw a pick for a touchdown" play. Looked like he called a quick slant on that side.

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[QUOTE=jacobyfan;258328]and call me crazy, but I don't think Gibbs called the "throw a pick for a touchdown" play. Looked like he called a quick slant on that side.[/QUOTE]

He didn't even call that. Saunders is the play caller. Take away those two INTs and the Redskins would've won easily today.

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[quote=dblanch66;258293]I don't think Gibbs is calling plays. Last I heard, it's still Al Saunders. But what the hell, let's blame Gibbs....
Stoooopid.
Dallas Sucks. Go Saints.[/quote]

thank you, I really couldnt believe people on here blaming Gibbs for the play calling when he doesnt call the plays, sometimes i have to question the knowledge of some Redskins fans, it seems like they bitch just for the sake of bitching and really have no idea what there talking about

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[quote=Mattyk72;258303]JC shouldn't have forced that throw, but that's life with an inexperienced QB.[/quote]

I thought that was a bad call. It was 3-9. Why call a 5 yard slant to a TE who was not going to get the first down even if he caught it? Should have called a 5 step drop.

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[quote=jacobyfan;258328]and call me crazy, but I don't think Gibbs called the "throw a pick for a touchdown" play. Looked like he called a quick slant on that side.[/quote]
i thought the play calling was pretty good, but.... why run a QUICK slant to cooley? i love him to death, but quickness isnt the one thing he was blessed with.

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I'll be the first to call someone out for bad playcalling but today isn't the day. The reason we lost was mistakes and bad execution. On a positive note, we killed them running the ball today and have done a great job over the last few weeks. We're taking some lumps w/ a qb that's learning right now.

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Thing is, I think these kind of games are exactly what JC and the team need. I'd rather them get it out of their system, improve, and learn those lessons that only come in moments of struggle and loss THIS season than next season when the slate is wiped clean.

Learning how to bounce back from a bad showing and come back the next quarter or week is a key trait of a great QB. Look at what happens to guys who win all throughout college and then come into the NFL and choke, it's like they never regain their footing, they're just reeling because they have all this pressure to not screw up.

I got stuck watching the Ravens game so I only caught the "high"lights, but that pickle that popped off Cooley's pads seemed fluky and it sounded like the ball bounced Philly's way a couple of times. We ran all over them, didn't get killed by Westy, and JC learned a bunch (without getting seriously hurt). What else can you really ask for at this point?

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Are there still members of this board that still haven't realized that Saunders calls the plays? It's been 14 weeks and 13 games and yet we still endure "Gibbs play-calling sucks" threads.

Going for the FG was a decent move after the fact we didn't try to punch it up the gut with Duckett/Sellers. Kicking the FG and then relying on our D to give us another chance made sense to me given the fact that the Eagles had, what, 54 yards offense in the second half. JC moved the ball very well, especially in the second half. Hindsight makes it look like a bad decision. To me, though the bad decision started and ended with not running it straight forward on 1st/2nd/3rd and goal.

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I didn't watch the whole game but I watched enough to know that 2 INTs got converted into TDs by the Eagles. Take away those 14 points and we walk away winners- plain and simple.

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[QUOTE=Redskin;258286]2 picks lost us ht egame today, not play calling[/QUOTE]



You're partially correct in that the two picks basically contributed to us losing the game. However, the latter pick was the direct result of what I would consider a bad play call. It was 3rd & nine, Campbell threw an inside slant pattern to Cooley, which even had he caught it, would not have been a 1st down, and we would have had to settle for another FG. Campbell being a young QB is trying to make the pattern that's called, but my contention is that we should have run a play beyond the 1st down marker, if it goes incomplete, then kick the FG.

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[quote=Longtimefan;258457]my contention is that we should have run a play beyond the 1st down marker[/quote]

Yeah, I've never understood the concept behind throwing short on 3rd down, but it happens so much that I always just figured the QB threw the ball early due to pressure. If the actual play call is to throw behind the marker and hope the receiver can get the extra yards, that just seems stupid.

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I'm not going to blame that play call on Gibbs, because I don't believe he called that play. We may have to chalk that one up to Al.

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I agree entirely with the quoted post. (I think that the 3 runs strategy would have been the Gibbs call.)

I am sure that Saunders calls all the offensive plays, but something caught my eye.
We had the offense on the field, and there was a shot of Gibbs indicating that he wanted to see Saunders, and Saunders went to Gibbs as though he was shot out of a cannon. Did anyone else notice that? Is it possible that Gibbs is now telling Saunders the types of plays he wants to see for certain situations in a game?

[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;258443]... To me, though the bad decision started and ended with not running it straight forward on 1st/2nd/3rd and goal.[/QUOTE]