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BeastsoftheNFCeast 12-19-2006 12:46 PM

Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
Whenever anyone mentions our linebacking core for next year, (for the most part) they include McIntosh in the starting rotation. But IMO we have not seen enough of him to assume he'll be starting next year. I do not think that the skins are confident that he'll be ready next year. Do you think we are going to bring in a starting LB next year as insurance? And if we do, do you think it will be a MLB, and we'll move Marshall to OLB. Also, what do you think will happen with Marshall if we brough in a MLB and McIntosh is ready, will he be content as a backup and stay a skin? And Remeber, this is all hypothetical, dont say none of this will ever happen and this thread is stupid.

12thMan 12-19-2006 12:55 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
This thread is stupid.

GhettoDogAllStars 12-19-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
None of this will ever happen.

mheisig 12-19-2006 01:21 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
This will never happen.

mheisig 12-19-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
Dammit, Ghetto! Beat me to it ;)

Schneed10 12-19-2006 01:46 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
I know what you're saying though. We keep saying that we might as well play Rocky to see what we have. Well, GW sees what he's got every day in practice. I don't think Rocky is there yet - if he was he'd be playing a more prominent role right now.

Can we go into 2007 planning on starting Rocky or Holdman? I think we have bigger needs than LB, but if we have the cap space once we're done filling holes at SS, CB, and DT, then I think we'd be remissed if we didn't pursue an Adalius Thomas to solidify our LB corps.

Bringing tons of guys in is always dangerous because of the learning curve. Just because we bring in Adalius doesn't mean Rocky couldn't earn a starting job. But by the same token, can we play well enough on D with Warrick Holdman/Rocky McIntosh?

jsarno 12-19-2006 01:54 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
Obviously he's not ready, and that concerns me.
We NEED better play from our LB's, but let's not count out the offseason. A lot of players will all of a sudden "get it" when they are sitting at home playing Madden and reading the playbook.
However, if he can't be the man, we need someone who will be.

jamf 12-19-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
With a salary cap, you can't have proven veterens at every position.
we have to start young players and hope they can play, if they want, we promote their a reserve and give them a chance.

If they are still unsure of McIntosh, they need to spend a 4th or 5th round pick on a linebacker as back up and hopefully he can play.

12thMan 12-19-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[quote=jsarno;261966]Obviously he's not ready, and that concerns me.
We NEED better play from our LB's, but let's not count out the offseason. A lot of players will all of a sudden "get it" when they are sitting at home playing Madden and reading the playbook.
However, if he can't be the man, we need someone who will be.[/quote]


So Rocky's not ready, neither was McCune (now with Miami).

Pierce, Clark, and LaVar were all expendable. And Archullleta appearantly can't play anymore either.

I hate to keep sounding so negative, I really do. But I'm just not all together sold anymore about what this staff says.

firstdown 12-19-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
This thread is stupid and this will never happen!

jsarno 12-19-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;261975]So Rocky's not ready, neither was McCune (now with Miami).

Pierce, Clark, and LaVar were all expendable. And Archullleta appearantly can't play anymore either.

I hate to keep sounding so negative, I really do. But I'm just not all together sold anymore about what this staff says.[/QUOTE]

What's your point about McCune? He has 0 tackles for McCune, so he's not even good enough to crack the special teams.

I'm not saying give up on Rocky...I still beleive in him, what I am saying is he should benefit from an offseason of just learning.

12thMan 12-19-2006 02:26 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[quote=jsarno;261987]What's your point about McCune? He has 0 tackles for McCune, so he's not even good enough to crack the special teams.

I'm not saying give up on Rocky...I still beleive in him, what I am saying is he should benefit from an offseason of just learning.[/quote]

My point is, it seems like we draft guys we're very high on one minute, and then the next they can't learn the system or whatever the case may be.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-19-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[quote=Schneed10;261963]I know what you're saying though. We keep saying that we might as well play Rocky to see what we have. Well, GW sees what he's got every day in practice. I don't think Rocky is there yet - if he was he'd be playing a more prominent role right now.

Can we go into 2007 planning on starting Rocky or Holdman? I think we have bigger needs than LB, but if we have the cap space once we're done filling holes at SS, CB, and DT, then I think we'd be remissed if we didn't pursue an Adalius Thomas to solidify our LB corps.

Bringing tons of guys in is always dangerous because of the learning curve. Just because we bring in Adalius doesn't mean Rocky couldn't earn a starting job. But by the same token, can we play well enough on D with Warrick Holdman/Rocky McIntosh?[/quote]

Just to play devil's advocate a bit, don't they say the Skins look like Super Bowl contenders in practice? There's nothing like a game when live bullets are flying to see what someone is made of.

CrazyCanuck 12-19-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
I don't think it's a good sign that Rocky hasn't been able to crack the lineup, especially on this defense. I don't think all hope is lost, but it would have been nice to see more progress up until now. I don't know about you guys, but I'm very reluctant to head into 2007 with Marcus, Lemar, and Rocky/Warrick as our LB corps.

JWsleep 12-19-2006 04:36 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
I seriously blame Dale Lindsay for this--he's one of those old-school tough guys who doesn't like to go with rookies. He is not one for flexibility. Look, Rocky is beginning to get time, which is a good sign, and GW has had nothing negative to say, for all this "Rocky can't play" stuff. GW generally lets it be known when he's down on a guy (Lavar, i.e.). And that has not occurred here, to my knowledge,

This same stuff was said about Campbell when MB was playing. He's not good enough, he doesn't practice well, etc. It wasn't true. And the coaches never said it. My feeling is that unless we hear it from the coaches, there's no reason to doubt Rocky--yet!

arrington_QBkiller 12-19-2006 06:08 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
aren't holdman and marshall both free agents after this year??

SkinEmAll 12-19-2006 06:15 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
This will NEVER happen. :cheeky-sm

SkinEmAll 12-19-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
This thread is Stupid. :cheeky-sm :tongue :cheeky-sm

EternalEnigma21 12-19-2006 07:31 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
oh my god this thread is stupid. This will never happen.

SmootSmack 12-19-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
Why didn't Beasts write one of his more descriptive thread titles like "Blah..."

Anyway, what's the question exactly?

mheisig 12-19-2006 09:37 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS;262134]Why didn't Beasts write one of his more descriptive thread titles like "Blah..."

Anyway, what's the question exactly?[/QUOTE]

Absolutely no idea.

I'm shocked there were actually 3 or 4 thoughtful responses to the initial "question(s)".

BeastsoftheNFCeast 12-19-2006 11:55 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[quote=TAFKAS;262134]Why didn't Beasts write one of his more descriptive thread titles like "Blah..."

Anyway, what's the question exactly?[/quote]

lol, sry I wasnt more clear, basically I had alot of hypothetical situations and you could respond to either one, but the main thing I was trying to ask is should we get a starting LB in the offseason or risk it with Rocky who hasn't proven anything yet.

BeastsoftheNFCeast 12-19-2006 11:57 PM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
and btw, as soon as I created this thread, I was like, man I hope a million people dont say this thread is stupid just cause I said not to

FRPLG 12-20-2006 12:31 AM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;261992]My point is, it seems like we draft guys we're very high on one minute, and then the next they can't learn the system or whatever the case may be.[/QUOTE]

I cannot think of another example like this. Who are you talking about?

GhettoDogAllStars 12-20-2006 09:13 AM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
[QUOTE=BeastsoftheNFCeast;262178]and btw, as soon as I created this thread, I was like, man I hope a million people dont say this thread is stupid just cause I said not to[/QUOTE]

:D :woot:

MTK 12-20-2006 09:54 AM

Re: Everyone gambling on McIntosh
 
Hey guys I haven't read any of the posts here so I hope this hasn't already been said, but this thread is mad stupid.

I'm out.


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