Trade Fred Smoot for Adam Archuleta?
 

Of course I'm dreaming, don't give me a hard time.

But you never know if someone in the Redskins front office reads
TheWarpath.net.

Please discuss....


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Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

no way, aa makes too much money

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

I would say Minnesota is not that stupid, but the Hershel Walker fiasco is still in my mind.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Oh, and I forgot to say...the reason we let Smoot go to Minnesota is because they over paid for him. Are the Skins willing to say they made a mistake in not signing him to a huge contract and take him back?

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

You couldn't get a broken candy cane for Archuletta....

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[quote=Grim21Reaper;263621]You couldn't get a broken candy cane for Archuletta....[/quote]


Never say never.

And as far as contracts go, the Skins could always agree to eat some of his contract to make the deal more attractive.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Who the hell cares! Neither can cover!

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[QUOTE=Crat92;263626]Who the hell cares! Neither can cover![/QUOTE]

I dunno, I recall Smoot as a decent cover corner. Just cause he's no bonafide #1, doesn't mean he can't be an exceptional #2.

Bailey and Smoot were the best CB tandem in the league.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[QUOTE=Crat92;263626]Who the hell cares! Neither can cover![/QUOTE]

Whooaa...I don't know about that! Smoot wasn't as good as Champ Bailey, but Smoot could cover (better than what our secondary has been doing this year!) He also was a very good tackler. It couldn't hurt us by taking Freddy back!

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

This Leon Hall kid from Michigan sounds like a heck of a CB, maybe Gibbs and the boys might take him in the draft. Hopefully they can also sign someone like Nate Clements as well. As much as I like Shawn Springs, he's just is a little too fragile to really count on now. Hopefully a good Defensive Lineman can be added as well. As far as Smoot for Archuletta, well, they both suck, so who cares? Archuletta was just a terrible signing and hopefully the Skins can cut their losses with him in the offseason in some form.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do recall Smoot's mouth writing checks his play couldn't cash! Maybe if he would just shut the hell up and play, I would feel differently.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[quote=Crat92;263658]Maybe I'm wrong, but I do recall Smoot's mouth writing checks his play couldn't cash! Maybe if he would just shut the hell up and play, I would feel differently.[/quote]

Smoot was not that bad of a CB. I think that there are some better ones out there but with the 5 yard chuck rule and with the WR position being the one that has the best athletes I think that the CB has the hardest job of anyone on the field. Finding a reliable CB is almost imposibble today that is why we need safeties that can actually handle receivers as well as conerbacks can.


I do not think that AA will be that bad of an aquisition after all is said and done. He certainly has the skills maybe a good off season will help him out...at least let's hope so.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Let's just end the silly trade Archuleta talk. Nobody and I repeat Nobody is going to trade for him, so let's just stop. Please.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Smooty flakes broke his jaw in a car accident. That sounds fun.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2709468]ESPN.com - NFL - Vikes CB Smoot breaks jaw in five places in car wreck[/url]

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[QUOTE=FRPLG;264006]Smooty flakes broke his jaw in a car accident. That sounds fun.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2709468]ESPN.com - NFL - Vikes CB Smoot breaks jaw in five places in car wreck[/url][/QUOTE]

Wow! No smack from Smoot for a while I guess. Hope he recovers ok

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Smoot was a serviceable-to-decent #2, but there were times when he got spread open and buttered.

Still, I'll take a flawed Fred Smoot over any of the dopes we have now.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

I was always behind the decision not to resign Smoot. He wasn't even close to deserving that kind of money. On the other hand I was all for the contracts to Arch and Lloyd so I give myself a D for evaluating those three hit or miss type of free agents. After breaking his jaw I would say Smoot's career in Minny is done and if he is released hell no do we want that guy back! Not a team player oh and he weighs like 167 ponds with his helmet and pads on while also holding a ten pound bag of weed. I'd rather keep Arch and of course as many have said no one trades for bums with massive Dan Snyder overinflated type contracts.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Sound good lets do it right now.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;263653]Whooaa...I don't know about that! Smoot wasn't as good as Champ Bailey, but Smoot could cover (better than what our secondary has been doing this year!) He also was a very good tackler. It couldn't hurt us by taking Freddy back![/QUOTE]


Smooty was serviceable as a cover corner, but a good tackler he was not. When it came to tackling he was much like his predecessor #21. He thought all there was to playing corner, was to cover, he often wound up injured when he attempted to tackle. Had he been better at that element of his game, the team would have been willing to pay him what he was looking to get in a new contract.

I would take him for AA though, if Minnesota would take his contract too.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

I think bringing Smoot back would be a lift for this D, which by all accounts has sufferred from a lack of chemistry among other things. Smoot was popular among players & did bring a certain enthusiasm to the game. He was a starter on the best D (04) this team has had in many years.
The espn article said that Minn. might cut him, but I haven't seen anything substantive about how it would impact their cap, which would be the deciding factor. anyone have info on how it would affect their cap?

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

Smoot isn't coming back. We let him walk for a reason, he's not a typical Gregg Williams DB.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;264211]Smoot isn't coming back. We let him walk for a reason, he's not a typical Gregg Williams DB.[/quote]

Agreed about him not likely coming back, but didn't Gibbs refer to him as a "core Redskin?"
I disagree about him not being a GW type cb, he played very physically in 04, of course it was his contract year. He jammed recievers & played tough man coverage, & tackled fairly well that year.
I think we let him go for the same reason we let Pierce go, they thought they were expendable & not worth signing for that much $. Minnesota only outbid the Skins by $1 Mil. & structured his deal so he got more in the early years. We definitely tried to re-sign him.
I doubt he'll be back simply because we'll be looking to upgrade & he's not the best available.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;264211]Smoot isn't coming back. We let him walk for a reason, he's not a typical Gregg Williams DB.[/QUOTE]

If the DBs this year are examples of a "Gregg Williams DB," we are in for a hellish few season.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

We had the #3 defense with Smoot as the other DB. If he is available we should go after him. He is a vocal leader and fits in the system. He won't demand the money he did when he left. Still, I think there is to much ego on this coaching staff to allow him back.

Re: Smoot for Archuletta?
 

[quote=GoSkins!;264401]He is a vocal leader[/quote]

Well, not so much right now....