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Bill B 12-29-2006 10:36 AM

Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
I have seen on many free agent articles that Eric Steinbach is the best rated free agent guard on the market. We all know that Derrick Dockery is going to test the free agent market - so the question is what should the FO do - resign Derrick Dockery for the sake of conitunity or go after Eric Steinbach?

MTK 12-29-2006 10:39 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
I think Dock is a better fit here and for the sake of continuity I really hope we re-sign him.

gibbsisgod 12-29-2006 10:42 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
It will probably be better all the way around to sign Dockery. He will come cheaper, he knows the offense and the other lineman are lobbying for him already.

MonkFan4Life 12-29-2006 10:44 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Keep Dockery, he's been here and it shows the players that are here that the team is willing to build from within and not always going for a free-agent. The Redskins have the persona of a team that doesn't keep their own players. If Gibbs and Co. are trying to change the identity of this franchise then keeping our own players is one thing that has to be done. I understand that there has to be a weeding out process at times but for the most part keeping our guys together is the best thing. So I say hold onto Dock and keep this line together.

MTK 12-29-2006 10:48 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Samuels I guess has already offered to restructure his contract to free up the $ for Dockery.

12thMan 12-29-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;264516]Samuels I guess has already offered to restructure his contract to free up the $ for Dockery.[/quote]


Just in?

dmek25 12-29-2006 10:58 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
re sign dockery. continuity in offensive line play is a big must

MTK 12-29-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=12thMan;264517]Just in?[/quote]

That news is a few days old, it was reported on Redskins radio

FRPLG 12-29-2006 11:26 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Keep Hickory Dickory Dock. He'll be a better value.

Longtimefan 12-29-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Dockery will resign. It's important we keep this line together. Dock is one of the most improved players on the team.

TheMalcolmConnection 12-29-2006 11:37 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Yup, everyone always wants to give him crap, but he's been a GREAT guard for us over this year.

Jamaican'Skin 12-29-2006 11:41 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Keep the continuity of the Dirtbagz. We've only given up 18 sacks this season, and Ladell has looked like a star running thru those holes. In a season of pure disappointment, they have been one of the few bright spots on the team. Their continuity is imperative

celts32 12-29-2006 12:06 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Steinbach might be a little better but we need cohesion...keep the line intact! Otherwise we have a half a season of growing pains waiting for the new line combination to gell. This is the perfect example of when the skins get to cute for their own good...instead of signing their own they always look to see if there is someone out there better. The line has been much better the past month or so and looks like it may have gelled...don't f-ck that up!

dall-assblows 12-29-2006 12:08 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
dock wants to be here anyways

Schneed10 12-29-2006 12:27 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Team chemistry and cohesion are just as important as talent. Steinbach and Dockery aren't far off in talent in my view.

Dock is the no brainer choice.

This thread is borderline silly.

dall-assblows 12-29-2006 12:30 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
OH snap

djnemo65 12-29-2006 12:34 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Hopefully we get Dockery locked up well before free agency starts. If that Post article from this week was accurate, that should be the case. I'll feel better once he is inked though. We've all seen too many players like Dockery - not stars, but important to the team nonetheless - walk over the years in favor of the latest and greatest free agent.

Paintrain 12-29-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Dock.. The offense is almost there, let's not mess with a good thing..

riggoraider 12-29-2006 01:07 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
Being that Saunder's offensive schemes is supposed to be so tough and it took the O-line almost a complete season to gel, I think that re-signing Dockery should be an easy answer to this question

Bill B 12-29-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=riggoraider;264604]Being that Saunder's offensive schemes is supposed to be so tough and it took the O-line almost a complete season to gel, I think that re-signing Dockery should be an easy answer to this question[/quote]

Sounds like a resounding case for Dock. If we get him signed up the remaining offensive near term signings to worry about are Cooley and Sellers. Everyone else is locked up for a while although getting a backup for tackle and guard would be nice considering Wade will leave for starter money in the offseason.

Gmanc711 12-29-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
DOCKERY Times 1,000!!!!

Its obvious the guys on the line love playing with him, it keeps the chemistry there. He's vastly improved and he'd be alot cheaper I'd think. Plus what kind of a message does this send (again) to the rest of the team. I'll be very upset if we dont get Dock back, especially after Samuels said yesterday he'd restructure to keep him.

skins009 12-29-2006 01:49 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
I must admit to being a big Dockery hater in the past. But man the guy has really improved. The lost weight has really improved his play. I think we need to stick the transition tag on him if he hits the free agent market.

Bill B 12-29-2006 01:52 PM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=Gmanc711;264612]DOCKERY Times 1,000!!!!

Its obvious the guys on the line love playing with him, it keeps the chemistry there. He's vastly improved and he'd be alot cheaper I'd think. Plus what kind of a message does this send (again) to the rest of the team. I'll be very upset if we dont get Dock back, especially after Samuels said yesterday he'd restructure to keep him.[/quote]


Don't gety me wrong - I agree with you and the others and I am all for keeping our own - I have posted previously on other threads that I prefer the drafting method to building a team with a free agent here or there as icing on the cake. I hope that the FO is going after Dock hard - I just worry with our past history that when a current player asks for huge money for some reason the FO (whoever make the money decisions) lets the player get away. I hope that Dock will give the Redskins some leverage with negotiations and not ask for crazy money because moving to a new team is never as easy as it sounds - maybe this was a big reason Betts decided to stay.

Longtimefan 12-29-2006 05:42 PM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
Plus, Dock is one of our own, and I've always been in favor of us resigning our own players. Betts...Dockery....Good Start.

GTripp0012 12-30-2006 12:16 AM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
Steinbach is the better player, but with money and continuity in mind, it's in our best interest to resign Dockery. Steinbach would be another huge contract that we would complain about.

GTripp0012 12-30-2006 12:19 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;264543]Yup, everyone always wants to give him crap, but he's been a GREAT guard for us over this year.[/quote]He's surpassed Rabach as our weakest link on the line and is probably having a better year than Jansen.

He still has big problems in pass pro (as does Rabach and Jansen, at least this year), but it's tough to argue with what we've done on the ground this year without Portis.

bigm29 12-30-2006 01:40 AM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
I say we let Dockery go. He will definatly want too much money. Then we should sign Steinbach and make him the highest paid guard in the league. He deserves it.

mooby 12-30-2006 03:33 AM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
[quote=Bill B;264511]I have seen on many free agent articles that Eric Steinbach is the best rated free agent guard on the market. We all know that Derrick Dockery is going to test the free agent market - so the question is what should the FO do - resign Derrick Dockery for the sake of conitunity or go after Eric Steinbach?[/quote]

Actually according to Dock himself he wants to stay here. I think we'll free up teh space to resign him too.

skins009 12-30-2006 10:26 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;264731]He's surpassed Rabach as our weakest link on the line and is probably having a better year than Jansen.

He still has big problems in pass pro (as does Rabach and Jansen, at least this year), but it's tough to argue with what we've done on the ground this year without Portis.[/QUOTE]

Rabach is not a bad player, he's pretty solid. Jansen in my opnion is the most overrated Redskin on the roster. Zero pass protection ability. I would look to upgrade right tackle if at all possible.

Schneed10 12-30-2006 10:50 AM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
[quote=bigm29;264732]I say we let Dockery go. He will definatly want too much money. Then we should sign Steinbach and make him the highest paid guard in the league. He deserves it.[/quote]

LOL

MTK 12-30-2006 10:53 AM

Re: Steinbach or Dockery?
 
[quote=skins009;264742]Rabach is not a bad player, he's pretty solid. Jansen in my opnion is the most overrated Redskin on the roster. Zero pass protection ability. I would look to upgrade right tackle if at all possible.[/quote]

Jansen has been playing hurt most of the season, I think it's a little premature to write him off and start looking for a replacement. Jansen is as solid as they come, and he's a great team guy.

dmek25 12-30-2006 11:09 AM

Re: Eric Steinbach or Derrick Dockery?
 
why not, when a guy is playing injured, give him some help in pass protection?


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