With the 6th Pick, The Redskins Select...
 

Who knows.

They either have the 5 or 6th pick. I think we beat out arizona because our conference record is worth than theirs.

Its too early to speculate on who is available. We just need someone who is going to play up to 5th pick standards.

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We're bound to get a good player with the 5th pick. Although, I am not a college guru like I am an NFL guru, so I am not sure what is available.

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Tie breaker isn't conference record is it? I thought it was opponents' winning percentage. I'm pretty sure Arizona faced an easier schedule, meaning they'd get the 5th and we'd get the 6th.

I'd say DT Alan Branch, Michigan.

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I would like to see them trade down to about #20 to pick up 2nd and 4th rounders. I'd like to get a guy like MLB Patrick Willis with the 20th and a DB in the 2nd.

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I'd like to see us trade away our pick for an unproven WR and an over-the-hill defensive player.

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Ditto, Alan Branch from Michigan

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GAINES ADAMS, Clemson Univeresity

6'5" 260 pound QB KILLER

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It might be hard for us not to take Adams from Clemson. If there isn't a serious impact guy at 5 we need to trade down and get some picks if we can.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;265653]I would like to see them trade down to about #20 to pick up 2nd and 4th rounders. I'd like to get a guy like MLB Patrick Willis with the 20th and a DB in the 2nd.[/QUOTE]


I like that idea as long as we get someone like Clements in free agency.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;265651]Tie breaker isn't conference record is it? I thought it was opponents' winning percentage. I'm pretty sure Arizona faced an easier schedule, meaning they'd get the 5th and we'd get the 6th.

I'd say DT Alan Branch, Michigan.[/QUOTE]


Here is the tie breaker rules:
• The team with the lowest winning percentage at the end of the previous season drafts first in the NFL Draft.

• The rest of the teams are placed in order from lowest winning percentage to the highest.

• The Super Bowl winner drafts last, even if they do not have the highest winning percentage.

• The Super Bowl loser drafts next to last.

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.

• If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.

Re: With the 5th Pick, The Redskins Select...
 

gains adams.

We need a pass rusher, first and foremost.

Happy New Year Warpath!!

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adam gaines if he's still there, if not, posluszny would be a good pick, though you can really get good LBs pretty easily in the 2nd. troy smith might be a big upgrade at QB, but i don't really think you can do that with such an old defense and campbell playing alright thusfar.

NFLDRAFTSCOUT.COM Current Top 20:

1 Quinn, Brady (QB), Notre Dame 1 6-4 228 4.70
2 Thomas, Joe (OT), Wisconsin 1 6-7 310 5.06
3 Adams, Gaines (DE), Clemson 1 6-5 260 4.72
4 Posluszny, Paul (OLB), Penn State 1 6-2 230 4.58
5 Smith, Troy (QB), Ohio State 1 6-1 212 4.60
6 Brown, Levi (OT), Penn State 1 6-4 325 5.28
7 Abiamiri, Victor (DE), Notre Dame 1 6-4 264 4.75
8 Landry, LaRon (FS), LSU 1 6-2 205 4.48
9 Hall, Leon (CB), Michigan 1 5-11 195 4.48
10 Samardzija, Jeff (WR), Notre Dame 1 6-5 216 4.50
11 Woodley, LaMarr (DE), Michigan 1 6-1 270 4.68
12 Okoye, Amobi (DT), Louisville 1 6-2 315 5.03
13 Bowe, Dwayne (WR), LSU 1 6-2 220 4.52
14 Timmons, *Lawrence (OLB), Florida State 1 6-3 232 4.62
15 Davis, A.J. (CB), North Carolina State 1 5-10 188 4.44
16 Tyler, Tank (DT), North Carolina State 1 6-2 310 5.20
17 Irons, Kenny (RB), Auburn 1 5-11 202 4.48
18 Carriker, Adam (DE), Nebraska 1 6-6 286 4.86
19 Blalock, Justin (OT), Texas 1 6-4 330 5.25
20 Moses, Quentin (DE), Georgia 1 6-5 252 4.75


a lot can change before draft day, and they don't move 2008 prospects over until they've officially declared (ie, calvin johnson, adrian peterson, dewayne jarret, etc), which will definitely change the top 32.

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The kid LaMarr Woodley is a beast. I'd like to see us trade down and maybe get him to be honest.

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I know we spent a lot of money on WRs the past off season and our D needs help but if Calvin Johnson declares I would like to see him in a Skins Uniform. He is a beast. Might even be able to trade down for him and pick up a few more picks. Then go after Clements from Buffalo in FA, just don't pay him too much.

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Gaines Adams or Leon Hall are my picks if we keep the 5th pick, but I'd like to trade down to the late first round and pick up some extra picks to be honest.

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I'd say... Posluszny, Paul (OLB), Penn State 1 6-2 230 4.58

As far as the DL goes we need a run stopping DT who will draw double teams. Griffin and Golston are the same pass rushing type. Carter and Evans are solid enough and will be better with improved DT play. CB is another need, possibly greater than our front seven but are there any NFL starting caliber to-be-rookies that fit the bill? That need will likely be our trendy FA splash.

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We officially have the 6th overall pick. Arizona had an easier schedule than we did, as expected.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2715578]ESPN.com - NFL - 2007 NFL draft order[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;265708]adam gaines if he's still there, if not, posluszny would be a good pick, though you can really get good LBs pretty easily in the 2nd. troy smith might be a big upgrade at QB, but i don't really think you can do

are u serious with saying troy smith would be a big upgrade at QB he would be a rookie. and we dont need another OLB do u guys watch the skins games we could use a ILB,DE,DT,CB.

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We need to trade down and pick up other picks including a lower 1st round pick. I would have to say draft moses with that pick and add a mlb with another pick we get by trading down. sign nate clements and a big fat run stopping stud in the middle to help out keeping ou linebackers free to make plays along with our defensive ends to play one on one with the opposing teams' tackles. This is the first step to improve this team.

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I'd take troy smith with the fifth pick... I mean he wouldn't start for 2-4 years in this franchise, anyway, why not take him? If JC doesn't make it, or gets hurt we have smith there...

I like Jason Campbell, but I don't think you can turn down Troy Smith.

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yes u can turn down troy smith we dont need a QB

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[QUOTE=That Guy;265708]adam gaines if he's still there, if not, posluszny would be a good pick, though you can really get good LBs pretty easily in the 2nd. troy smith might be a big upgrade at QB, but i don't really think you can do that with such an old defense and campbell playing alright thusfar.

NFLDRAFTSCOUT.COM Current Top 20:

1 Quinn, Brady (QB), Notre Dame 1 6-4 228 4.70
2 Thomas, Joe (OT), Wisconsin 1 6-7 310 5.06
3 Adams, Gaines (DE), Clemson 1 6-5 260 4.72
4 Posluszny, Paul (OLB), Penn State 1 6-2 230 4.58
5 Smith, Troy (QB), Ohio State 1 6-1 212 4.60
6 Brown, Levi (OT), Penn State 1 6-4 325 5.28
7 Abiamiri, Victor (DE), Notre Dame 1 6-4 264 4.75
8 Landry, LaRon (FS), LSU 1 6-2 205 4.48
9 Hall, Leon (CB), Michigan 1 5-11 195 4.48
10 Samardzija, Jeff (WR), Notre Dame 1 6-5 216 4.50
11 Woodley, LaMarr (DE), Michigan 1 6-1 270 4.68
12 Okoye, Amobi (DT), Louisville 1 6-2 315 5.03
13 Bowe, Dwayne (WR), LSU 1 6-2 220 4.52
14 Timmons, *Lawrence (OLB), Florida State 1 6-3 232 4.62
15 Davis, A.J. (CB), North Carolina State 1 5-10 188 4.44
16 Tyler, Tank (DT), North Carolina State 1 6-2 310 5.20
17 Irons, Kenny (RB), Auburn 1 5-11 202 4.48
18 Carriker, Adam (DE), Nebraska 1 6-6 286 4.86
19 Blalock, Justin (OT), Texas 1 6-4 330 5.25
20 Moses, Quentin (DE), Georgia 1 6-5 252 4.75


a lot can change before draft day, and they don't move 2008 prospects over until they've officially declared (ie, calvin johnson, adrian peterson, dewayne jarret, etc), which will definitely change the top 32.[/QUOTE]

Kiper said last week that he thought Poszlusny was looking like late 1/early 2 nd round. He definitely won't go in the top 5.

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It has to be Leon Hall out of Michigan, without a doubt. He is the best corner in the draft and one of the best I have seen in a long time. Watch him on the USC recievers today.

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[QUOTE=tatrave;265860]It has to be Leon Hall out of Michigan, without a doubt. He is the best corner in the draft and one of the best I have seen in a long time. Watch him on the USC recievers today.[/QUOTE]

I would have to disagree....if you watched Hall vs. OSU he was terrible. He got burned several times, was out of position, and missed tackles. I know our secondary needs help badly and I did like Hall until I watched that game but this is a deep draft and we would be better off trading down and picking up some picks.

If Calvin Johnson would somehow fall to us there would be alot of teams willing to trade up and take him. If you look at the top 5 picks there really isn't a team that looks to invest a top pick in a WR. The Bucs might take especially after the game he had today but the other teams have more important issues then WR.

If we stay at our spot I would say Ganies Adams, at least he will help our pass rush. There really isn't any CB's worth taking this high in the draft.

If we trade down, which I would prefer, I would say pick up a LB in the first either Patrick Willis from Ole Miss or Paul Posluszny from PSU. Both will be great pros and Posluszny has the ability to play MLB or OLB. Then in a later round, 2nd or 3rd depending what we get, pick up a DB like David Irons from Auburn. He is a good cover coner with good speed and he can tackle. He is not as big as the DB's Williams likes but he can cover big WR's well. He did a great job covering Sidney Rice a very talented 6'4" WR with possibly sub 4.4 speed.

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for the guy who thinks we should take troy smith. why dont we draft adrain peterson then. we need another RB. our weakness all year has been the defense. if we dont go with defense with this pick the front office is dumb. unless u trade down to get more picks

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hall would mainly play nickle and dime in his first year and would have an immediate impact in that area. We don't need a qb or a wide reciever. Defensive seconday.

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[url=http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm]2007 NFL Mock Draft[/url]

that almost hurts to read....

Analysis: We don't like to predict trades in our mock drafts, but if we did this pick would almost certainly be headed somewhere else in exchange for a talented but severely overpaid veteran who could do his part to clogs the arteries of the Redskins salary cap for years to come. But since we don't, the Skins take Branch here which almost certainly won't happen because, well it makes sense.

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;265886][URL="http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm"]2007 NFL Mock Draft[/URL]

that almost hurts to read....

Analysis: We don't like to predict trades in our mock drafts, but if we did this pick would almost certainly be headed somewhere else in exchange for a talented but severely overpaid veteran who could do his part to clogs the arteries of the Redskins salary cap for years to come. But since we don't, the Skins take Branch here which almost certainly won't happen because, well it makes sense.[/quote]

As Usher said, 'Truth Hurts'....

Anyway, why would we draft Troy Smith? That would be an utter waste of a pick?! That baffles me, and to suggest he could play in 2-4 years? He and Campbell can't be anymore than two years apart in age to begin with. It should never be brought up again.

Mark my words, Jason Campbell will cause a lot of jaws to drop next year.

disclaimer: Only the truth hurt thing was for you Skins&Canes....the rest was for the masses:)

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that draft is incorrect anyways has detroit with #1 overall and us with 7th.. when we have sixth and lions are #2 behind the raiders.

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ditto that 12thman. that guy who said we should draft troy smith with the #6 pick is an idiot. first what kind of message does that send to the team and why waste a pick on him so high when he is not rated that high. he must be an ohio st fan

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i really think we need a solid defensive player here but not a small corner... we have to many bg recievers in our division(burress,t.o and stallworth) a defensive end is to risky and really wont provide any immediate impact on nfl olineman. we need a solid run stopper at DT , like the guy from michigan or a solid LB......I personally would take the michigan dt at #6 AND DRAFT adabi from virginia tech in the second round

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i think we should take a punter, kicker, or long snapper with the 6th pick. what do you guys think? pretty fool proof huh?

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[quote=gusbus;265768]I know we spent a lot of money on WRs the past off season and our D needs help but if Calvin Johnson declares I would like to see him in a Skins Uniform. He is a beast. Might even be able to trade down for him and pick up a few more picks. Then go after Clements from Buffalo in FA, just don't pay him too much.[/quote]
The Skins have already committed significant cap to the WR position (Moss, Lloyd, and Randle El). The offense will be fine as long as we keep the O-line intact (re-sign Dockery) and Campbell continues to develop. It's a no brainer that we need to draft a pass rusher, and Gaines Adams should be at the top of that list. Imagine how much better our secondary would look with a pass rush coming from the front four. Competent FA cornerbacks like Clements make a boatload these days, so if you want to go that route, be prepared to pay accordingly.

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but calvin johnson is a amazing player, the best receiver to come out of college in maybe ever. team guy. i'm not saying draft him but f he is there, it would be hard to pass on him imo

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[quote=dall-assblows;265911]but calvin johnson is a amazing player, the best receiver to come out of college in maybe ever. team guy. i'm not saying draft him but f he is there, it would be hard to pass on him imo[/quote]
I'd be in agreement if Gibbs hadn't traded so many other draft picks where he could have addressed the defensive sieve more cost effectively, but if he goes offense with the 1st pick, then he'll have to spend huge dollars for multiple defensive free agents. I really feel that a single dominant pass rusher will make our DBs much better than just going out and signing Clements. Darrell Green in his prime would have had a hard time playing with the lack of a pass rush that the current front four is generating.

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We should trade down from this spot so that we can still select one of the top flight DTs or CBs available, and add more picks in the meantime.

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Trade down. Its a no brainer.

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that is a good point soupermeister. we need to draft a pass rushing DE and then sign clements to a FA deal. how does drafting a offense player in the first help us out on defense i think our offense just needs to develop. let campbell learn the system better.

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Did anyone catch the USC - Michigan game? I missed it but I wanted to know how the following players did that the Skins may take:

1.) Alan Branch

2.) Leon Hall

3.) Lamar Woodley

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[quote=dall-assblows;265911]but calvin johnson is a amazing player, the best receiver to come out of college in maybe ever. team guy. i'm not saying draft him but f he is there, it would be hard to pass on him imo[/quote]

I would love to see Calvin Johnson a Redskin, but its not the best thing for the team, unfortunately we dont have the luxury of drafting the best player in the draft, with all these stupid FA moves the front office has made were forced to pick players for positions that should have been filled years ago. The way I see it, if Calvin Johnson falls in our lap, lets give New England a call, I think they would swap there two first round picks for our top 10 pick(#6), let them pick Dewayne Jarret or Calvin Johnson, we can then use those two picks on LaRon Landry and Paul Posluzny. If not we should use the pick on either Gaines Adams or Alan Branch, whichever of the two is still available. Of course all this is contingent upon us signing Nate Clements, which I honestly believe is all but done, come free agency Nate Clements will be sippin champagne on Redskin 1 trying to figure out ways to spend the large sum of money Snyder just gave him.