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SmootSmack 01-03-2007 11:53 AM

Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Let's suppose Cowher resigns as Steelers coach (and everything I've heard says he will) which of the following availabe head coaching jobs would you say is the most desirable-considering management and talent primarily-Cardinals, Falcons, Dolphins, or Steelers?

Redskins_P 01-03-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Cardinals - You have a top 10 RB, two above average receivers, and a promising young QB.

Schneed10 01-03-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Steelers is most desirable by far. There is serious talent, Willie Parker, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Joey Porter, Troy Palamalu, Ben Roethlisberger. Cowher isn't leaving because the team is in tumult, he's leaving it in really good shape. They finished the season on a hot streak, and are poised to make noise next season. Russ Grimm is still the offensive line coach. Dick LeBeau is still the D coordinator. In fact, Grimm could very easily be their next head coach - he'd slide into the smashmouth style very easily, and would fit with the team's existing personality seamlessly.

The Cardinals have no offensive line. The Falcons have pieces of the puzzle, but designing an effective game-plan for Vick is very difficult. You don't know what the heck the Dolphins are going to do at QB: is Harrington the answer or is Culpepper going to bounce back?

Jamaican'Skin 01-03-2007 12:01 PM

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I see that, but Arizona has been cursed with multiple losing seasons. A funk that no coach has seemed to get them outta. I say its the Steelers. A team with an already solid defense and an offensive identity: pounding the ball.

Schneed10 01-03-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
[quote=Redskins_P;266596]Cardinals - You have a top 10 RB, two above average receivers, and a promising young QB.[/quote]

Promising young QB is one of the worst things a coach can have. I'd MUCH rather have an accomplished veteran, or better yet, a young guy who has won a Super Bowl and who has the complete faith of his teammates.

Besides, Leinart will never do much unless he gets some protection.

Redskins_P 01-03-2007 12:05 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;266601]Promising young QB is one of the worst things a coach can have. I'd MUCH rather have an accomplished veteran, or better yet, a young guy who has won a Super Bowl and who has the complete faith of his teammates.

Besides, Leinart will never do much unless he gets some protection.[/QUOTE]

Good point.....

JoeRedskin 01-03-2007 12:08 PM

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I'd have to go with the Steeler's by far. Good managment and ownership, solid talent.

After that, it would be difficult for me to pick between Miami and Atlanta. Each has a committed owner and some good young talent but each has serious questions: MIA - (As was stated in an SI article) the defense is getting older by the minute and they still have the same QB dilemma as last year (a gimpy Daunte or a failed 1st rounder in Joey); ATL - Michael Vick (Mora Sr. was right) and WR's with hands made of stone.

Arizona is where coaches go when they have given up on life.

SmootSmack 01-03-2007 12:14 PM

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I'd probably have to say the Steelers as well. Two head coaches in 40 years. That's remarkable

Giantone 01-03-2007 12:23 PM

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[quote=TAFKAS;266608]I'd probably have to say the Steelers as well. Two head coaches in 40 years. That's remarkable[/quote]


Agreed it says alot about the whole orginazation:) .Bidwell in Arizona is a joke.

BDBohnzie 01-03-2007 12:27 PM

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Steelers then Falcons. Couldn't work for Wayne Huizenga, he seems to be too much of a pompous ass for my taste. And the Cards, God bless them, are some kind of terrible. No matter their record, they have virtually no fan base, and have too many holes to work on.

MonkFan4Life 01-03-2007 12:36 PM

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Now, with all of the jobs out there... is it possible that The Joker takes one of those and Gibbs takes the offense over again ? If someone brought it up, sorry, but I was thinking about that while in here working.

EternalEnigma21 01-03-2007 12:45 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Steelers are the best team to fall into, but the Cards would be attractive. The firepower is there and they have the cap room to shore up a line and add a couple of Defensive players. I'd make sure they don't skimp on the coordinators and probably take that job. Plus, I'd rather live in AZ than Pitt anyday...

brent 01-03-2007 12:50 PM

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Cardinals:
Surely you must be joking? There are players here, but its impossible to look past the history here. This is an NFL graveyard for coaches.

Falcons:
Vick is a coach killer. He's a glorified Kordell Stewart. The only one who should consider this job is the guy who was fired from the Cowboys before Parcells, since he got more out of Kordell than anyone. He should team up with the ex-Saints guy and do that thing going on in San Francisco with the two ex-Redskin coordinators.

Dolphins:
Good owner but no organization in place. Aging defense. Some talent on offense, but much of it is very flawed. Brutally tough division.

Steelers:
Expectations are sky high but if you succeed, you have the most stable coaching job in the NFL. Good organization. Talent is solid. Very tough division, although Baltimore could recede after this year to age.

Clearly, you'd choose between the Dolphins and Steelers. Which one is better depends on who you are, I think.

MTK 01-03-2007 12:50 PM

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Cards for young talent, Steelers for the organization.

irish 01-03-2007 12:54 PM

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The steelers is easily the best job for all the reasons schneed said. That coach will be inheriting a team only 1 season removed from winning a super bowl will almost all of the key elements of that title intact. Also the steelers are without a doubt the most stabil organization in the NFL. They hire a coach and stick with him. Remember a few years ago when Cowher's team was down and most wanted him fired, the steelers stuck with him and good things happened. Imagine if the Skins did that (I'm not sure anyone has that vivid an imagination).

MTK 01-03-2007 12:59 PM

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[quote=irish;266625]The steelers is easily the best job for all the reasons schneed said. That coach will be inheriting a team only 1 season removed from winning a super bowl will almost all of the key elements of that title intact. Also the steelers are without a doubt the most stabil organization in the NFL. They hire a coach and stick with him. Remember a few years ago when Cowher's team was down and most wanted him fired, the steelers stuck with him and good things happened. Imagine if the Skins did that (I'm not sure anyone has that vivid an imagination).[/quote]

More teams should try letting a coach do his job for more than 2-3 seasons. That's one of the reasons I'm all for letting Gibbs do his 5 years and even more if he wants to. Organizational consistency is very underrated in this league.

Schneed10 01-03-2007 01:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;266629]More teams should try letting a coach do his job for more than 2-3 seasons. That's one of the reasons I'm all for letting Gibbs do his 5 years and even more if he wants to. Organizational consistency is very underrated in this league.[/quote]

Word.

squrrelco3 01-03-2007 01:03 PM

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[quote=Giantone;266613]Agreed it says alot about the whole orginazation:) .Bidwell in Arizona is a joke.[/quote]

Hey now...that's Danny Snyder's hero your picking on, Bidwell taught him everything he knows about running a football team...lol :D

irish 01-03-2007 01:05 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;266629]More teams should try letting a coach do his job for more than 2-3 seasons. That's one of the reasons I'm all for letting Gibbs do his 5 years and even more if he wants to. Organizational consistency is very underrated in this league.[/QUOTE]

I agree about letting Gibbs do his thing for as long as he wants but I think the issue with Gibbs is his age. Cowher has been with the Steelers for something like 15 years and it took him 14 of those to get the championship. I think Gibbs has 5 years at most left in him as head coach and I just dont see that as being enough time to get an organization as screwed up as the redskins back to something that resembles the steelers.

dmek25 01-03-2007 02:50 PM

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all coaches have egos. thats why the cardinals job would be the most enticing. ill bet you, if you polled all the nfl coaches right now, they would have ideas on how to fix the arizona cardinals. but before taking that job, they would have to get the power structure straightened out with the bidwells, who are easily the worst owners in sports

SmootSmack 01-03-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;266659]all coaches have egos. thats why the cardinals job would be the most enticing. ill bet you, if you polled all the nfl coaches right now, they would have ideas on how to fix the arizona cardinals. but before taking that job, they would have to get the power structure straightened out with the bidwells, who are easily the worst owners in sports[/QUOTE]

I may put Donald Sterling as worse. I mean he's just a bad person, though perhaps maybe not as bad an owner as the Bidwills.

PSUSkinsFan21 01-03-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Steelers because it's a stable, high class organization with some great players and a lot of good players.

Miami would be next because they are an organization that has always been committed to winning. They have some good young players and a strong fan base.

Falcons and Arizona?.......I'd hold out til next year and see what else opens up. Arizona is so screwed up as an organization. The fact that they have as much cap room to "play" with is proof positive that this organization will never do what it takes to give a coach a team capable of winning a championship. Salary cap room is only useful if you ever actually decide to lose it. They have some amazing players right now, but are they really going to spend the money to keep Boldin, Fitzgeral, Leinart and James over the long haul? I doubt it. I'd pass on the Falcons for one key reason: Michael Vick. You can't coach him, and you can't bench him (or the owner has your head and ticket sales plummit)....so you're basically set up for failure.

BrudLee 01-03-2007 07:57 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;266601]Besides, Leinart will never do much unless he gets some protection.[/QUOTE]

That's what [URL="http://www.people.com/people/article/0,26334,1449309,00.html"]she[/URL] said.

Crat92 01-03-2007 10:19 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
[quote=Redskins_P;266596]Cardinals - You have a top 10 RB, two above average receivers, and a promising young QB.[/quote]
As far as talent, yes. But.........their ownership sucks. Bidwell has no idea how to build a winning team. Dennis Green got a raw deal. It's hard enough for the best teams to win in the NFL. How does he expect a turnaround in three years? Constantly changing coaches only sets the franchise back. That team needs consistancy above all else. The talent is definitely there though.

jsarno 01-03-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Best Available Coaching Job?
 
Without a doubt, the Steelers. They know how to win and have a winning mentality. All the other teams are notorious losers. Miami being the only exception, but they are so far removed from greatness.

That being said, I'd rank them in this order:
1- Steelers
2- Arizona (just a few puzzle pieces away)
3- Miami (can win again if some cleaning of house is done)
4- Atlanta (and I'd take Wyoming's school of the blind before taking the Atlanta's head coaching job...whoever takes that is destined to be fired.)


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